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Two minor (or major?) questions though.
1.) Someone mentioned that Asmodean's killer was revealed in the glossary. I do not have access to my book right now. Who was it?
Check under graendal.
2.) And has it ever been clearly stated that Taim is Damodred (or was it Demandred >.>)? I know that Taim is never spoken of without mentioning that half smile..
Robert Jordan specifically said taim is not demandred. Damodred is a cairhenien noble house (taringal and moiraine). We have not yet seen demandred's alter-ego on screen.
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On November 16 2010 11:00 Bair wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So I finished it, and I have to say I am pretty impressed with most of it.
For starters, while I really do like Perrin as a character, until about...the forging of his Hammer I felt that he was pretty underwhelming. Then once he got his hands like that he started being pretty badass. Truly though, the Faile/Perrin bit was a breath of fresh air in the romance section of the book compared to Egwene/Nynaeve/Eylane (I actually hate the sections for these characters entirely). Matt's is over, so I cannot say much there...and Rand really just had 3 chicks fall in love with him without too much in the way of development).
Matt's section on the other hand...loved it. He has always been one of my favorites.
Rand, I read this without rereading the other books (or rather, I reread up until Crossroads of Twilight, and did not have time for the last few books). However, I really like him as a character. I always liked the interaction between him and Cadsuane as well.
But the most important thing is that I like that they are finally doing something about the black tower. I mean honestly...Elaida's fortelling about the Black Tower was what...3-4 books ago? It is nice to show that there is some development going on regarding it, even if it is just a hint of what will be going on in the last book.
Two minor (or major?) questions though.
1.) Someone mentioned that Asmodean's killer was revealed in the glossary. I do not have access to my book right now. Who was it?
2.) And has it ever been clearly stated that Taim is Damodred (or was it Demandred >.>)? I know that Taim is never spoken of without mentioning that half smile...
+ Show Spoiler +1.) Graendal. It was explicitly stated in the glossary and hinted at twice in the book. The first was with Moridin where she was explaining the death of Halima. He makes a comment regarding "making a habit of it" regarding killing forsaken. The second was in the epilogue when it explicity states that she is responsible for the deaths of 3 forsaken. Only her involvement with Mesaana and Halima are known so the 3rd is Asmo.
2.) It was explicitly stated that Taim is not Demandred by RJ at book signings. It was also stated that Demandred's counterpart (ie. the character he is disguised as) has not appeared in the story yet, but I can't remember which book that was true for. He may have shown up in TGS/TOM.
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Meh I stopped reading WOT once I started reading ASOIAF. The latter is just so much better. Now I'm just waiting for ADWD to come out 
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On November 16 2010 11:10 LTT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 11:00 Bair wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So I finished it, and I have to say I am pretty impressed with most of it.
For starters, while I really do like Perrin as a character, until about...the forging of his Hammer I felt that he was pretty underwhelming. Then once he got his hands like that he started being pretty badass. Truly though, the Faile/Perrin bit was a breath of fresh air in the romance section of the book compared to Egwene/Nynaeve/Eylane (I actually hate the sections for these characters entirely). Matt's is over, so I cannot say much there...and Rand really just had 3 chicks fall in love with him without too much in the way of development).
Matt's section on the other hand...loved it. He has always been one of my favorites.
Rand, I read this without rereading the other books (or rather, I reread up until Crossroads of Twilight, and did not have time for the last few books). However, I really like him as a character. I always liked the interaction between him and Cadsuane as well.
But the most important thing is that I like that they are finally doing something about the black tower. I mean honestly...Elaida's fortelling about the Black Tower was what...3-4 books ago? It is nice to show that there is some development going on regarding it, even if it is just a hint of what will be going on in the last book.
Two minor (or major?) questions though.
1.) Someone mentioned that Asmodean's killer was revealed in the glossary. I do not have access to my book right now. Who was it? 2.) And has it ever been clearly stated that Taim is Damodred (or was it Demandred >.>)? I know that Taim is never spoken of without mentioning that half smile... + Show Spoiler +1.) Graendal. It was explicitly stated in the glossary and hinted at twice in the book. The first was with Moridin where she was explaining the death of Halima. He makes a comment regarding "making a habit of it" regarding killing forsaken. The second was in the epilogue when it explicity states that she is responsible for the deaths of 3 forsaken. Only her involvement with Mesaana and Halima are known so the 3rd is Asmo.
2.) It was explicitly stated that Taim is not Demandred by RJ at book signings. It was also stated that Demandred's counterpart (ie. the character he is disguised as) has not appeared in the story yet, but I can't remember which book that was true for. He may have shown up in TGS/TOM. [/spoiler]
+ Show Spoiler +Then as far as Taim goes, Dreadlord or Moridin? (Or just a guy who wants to be the dragon reborn >.>)
I mean, there was the unidentified channeler at the Perrin/Whitecloak/Trolloc battle. Tie the close relation to everything that happened in Tel'Aran'Rhiod and the dream spike with Perrin and the second dream spike appearing in the Black Tower and Morodin looks like a fair suspect for being Taim.
Though granted, the range of emotions that Taim has shown compared to Morodin really does not add up. Also, given the fact that Taim shows up so far ahead of Morodin in the books. But the question still remains of how Taim escaped, and exactly what was he doing between his escape and his reappearance with Rand's proclamation.
EDIT: Damn spoiler tags.
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On November 16 2010 11:59 writer22816 wrote:Meh I stopped reading WOT once I started reading ASOIAF. The latter is just so much better. Now I'm just waiting for ADWD to come out
Oh really? Then why don't I just go into your little thread and post uncontributing slander like you do? Oh wait, it's been inactive for 3 months. I won't bother then. /goodday
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When I saw this thread, I Looked up the first posts and it said "Not yet, waiting for the PDF on Kazaa".
I was like "Is this 2002 or something?"
2003, close enough!
Sure brings back memories.
I'll definitely look up the series, I was looking for something good to read, thanks for the bump!
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Jordan and grrm both released a book in 2005 and in that time Jordan has died and released 2 books while Martin hasn't even released 1 in that time
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Just imagine how consistently amazing this series would have been if Jordan and Sanderson worked together on it from the beginning.
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haha
Man sanderson rocks. Last 2 books have been the best since sooo long ago in the series. I just wish I didn't read it so fast. Since I'm here just wondering If there are any other fantasy series I Need to read.
Read A song of Ice and Fire, Sword of Truth,Started Malazan Book of the Fallen( Didn't continue after i read several people say first book was the only good one), Read Name of the Wind(WHICH IS AWESOME).. considering trying this dark tower series next. But am I missing anything that I should have already read already
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On November 16 2010 13:17 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
haha
Man sanderson rocks. Last 2 books have been the best since sooo long ago in the series. I just wish I didn't read it so fast. Since I'm here just wondering If there are any other fantasy series I Need to read.
Read A song of Ice and Fire, Sword of Truth,Started Malazan Book of the Fallen( Didn't continue after i read several people say first book was the only good one), Read Name of the Wind(WHICH IS AWESOME).. considering trying this dark tower series next. But am I missing anything that I should have already read already
What, the first Malazan book of the Fallen book was by far the worst. O.o
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really? i dunno i could have sworn i saw that posted somewhere on here. I guess Ill go finish that series first then
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On November 16 2010 13:30 CorpseRT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 13:17 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
haha
Man sanderson rocks. Last 2 books have been the best since sooo long ago in the series. I just wish I didn't read it so fast. Since I'm here just wondering If there are any other fantasy series I Need to read.
Read A song of Ice and Fire, Sword of Truth,Started Malazan Book of the Fallen( Didn't continue after i read several people say first book was the only good one), Read Name of the Wind(WHICH IS AWESOME).. considering trying this dark tower series next. But am I missing anything that I should have already read already What, the first Malazan book of the Fallen book was by far the worst. O.o
Yeah, whoever said that was flat out wrong. Toll The Hounds was my favorite, personally, and that's book #8. Dark Tower was very good as well, but it is a somewhat different style than the others you mentioned, so it might be hit or miss.
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On November 16 2010 12:10 Bair wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 11:10 LTT wrote:On November 16 2010 11:00 Bair wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So I finished it, and I have to say I am pretty impressed with most of it.
For starters, while I really do like Perrin as a character, until about...the forging of his Hammer I felt that he was pretty underwhelming. Then once he got his hands like that he started being pretty badass. Truly though, the Faile/Perrin bit was a breath of fresh air in the romance section of the book compared to Egwene/Nynaeve/Eylane (I actually hate the sections for these characters entirely). Matt's is over, so I cannot say much there...and Rand really just had 3 chicks fall in love with him without too much in the way of development).
Matt's section on the other hand...loved it. He has always been one of my favorites.
Rand, I read this without rereading the other books (or rather, I reread up until Crossroads of Twilight, and did not have time for the last few books). However, I really like him as a character. I always liked the interaction between him and Cadsuane as well.
But the most important thing is that I like that they are finally doing something about the black tower. I mean honestly...Elaida's fortelling about the Black Tower was what...3-4 books ago? It is nice to show that there is some development going on regarding it, even if it is just a hint of what will be going on in the last book.
Two minor (or major?) questions though.
1.) Someone mentioned that Asmodean's killer was revealed in the glossary. I do not have access to my book right now. Who was it? 2.) And has it ever been clearly stated that Taim is Damodred (or was it Demandred >.>)? I know that Taim is never spoken of without mentioning that half smile... + Show Spoiler +1.) Graendal. It was explicitly stated in the glossary and hinted at twice in the book. The first was with Moridin where she was explaining the death of Halima. He makes a comment regarding "making a habit of it" regarding killing forsaken. The second was in the epilogue when it explicity states that she is responsible for the deaths of 3 forsaken. Only her involvement with Mesaana and Halima are known so the 3rd is Asmo.
2.) It was explicitly stated that Taim is not Demandred by RJ at book signings. It was also stated that Demandred's counterpart (ie. the character he is disguised as) has not appeared in the story yet, but I can't remember which book that was true for. He may have shown up in TGS/TOM. + Show Spoiler +Then as far as Taim goes, Dreadlord or Moridin? (Or just a guy who wants to be the dragon reborn >.>)
I mean, there was the unidentified channeler at the Perrin/Whitecloak/Trolloc battle. Tie the close relation to everything that happened in Tel'Aran'Rhiod and the dream spike with Perrin and the second dream spike appearing in the Black Tower and Morodin looks like a fair suspect for being Taim.
Though granted, the range of emotions that Taim has shown compared to Morodin really does not add up. Also, given the fact that Taim shows up so far ahead of Morodin in the books. But the question still remains of how Taim escaped, and exactly what was he doing between his escape and his reappearance with Rand's proclamation. EDIT: Damn spoiler tags. [/spoiler]
I think it's pretty evident that Moridin is not Taim. Taim was captured by the Tower, off leading people when he was a false Dragon (before Rand officially proclaimed himself), etc.
Moridin is Ishamael, he was busy appearing as Ba'alzamon in the first few books before getting offed by Rand and reborn as Moridin. And Rand met Moridin in Shadar Logoth when fighting Sammael, he would've easily recognized him if he was Taim.
At this point who knows what Taim is. Likely bet is he's just a Darkfriend or he's acting independently on his own (with his new zombie-ification powers or w/e).
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On November 17 2010 02:24 Curu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 12:10 Bair wrote:On November 16 2010 11:10 LTT wrote:On November 16 2010 11:00 Bair wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So I finished it, and I have to say I am pretty impressed with most of it.
For starters, while I really do like Perrin as a character, until about...the forging of his Hammer I felt that he was pretty underwhelming. Then once he got his hands like that he started being pretty badass. Truly though, the Faile/Perrin bit was a breath of fresh air in the romance section of the book compared to Egwene/Nynaeve/Eylane (I actually hate the sections for these characters entirely). Matt's is over, so I cannot say much there...and Rand really just had 3 chicks fall in love with him without too much in the way of development).
Matt's section on the other hand...loved it. He has always been one of my favorites.
Rand, I read this without rereading the other books (or rather, I reread up until Crossroads of Twilight, and did not have time for the last few books). However, I really like him as a character. I always liked the interaction between him and Cadsuane as well.
But the most important thing is that I like that they are finally doing something about the black tower. I mean honestly...Elaida's fortelling about the Black Tower was what...3-4 books ago? It is nice to show that there is some development going on regarding it, even if it is just a hint of what will be going on in the last book.
Two minor (or major?) questions though.
1.) Someone mentioned that Asmodean's killer was revealed in the glossary. I do not have access to my book right now. Who was it? 2.) And has it ever been clearly stated that Taim is Damodred (or was it Demandred >.>)? I know that Taim is never spoken of without mentioning that half smile... + Show Spoiler +1.) Graendal. It was explicitly stated in the glossary and hinted at twice in the book. The first was with Moridin where she was explaining the death of Halima. He makes a comment regarding "making a habit of it" regarding killing forsaken. The second was in the epilogue when it explicity states that she is responsible for the deaths of 3 forsaken. Only her involvement with Mesaana and Halima are known so the 3rd is Asmo.
2.) It was explicitly stated that Taim is not Demandred by RJ at book signings. It was also stated that Demandred's counterpart (ie. the character he is disguised as) has not appeared in the story yet, but I can't remember which book that was true for. He may have shown up in TGS/TOM. + Show Spoiler +Then as far as Taim goes, Dreadlord or Moridin? (Or just a guy who wants to be the dragon reborn >.>)
I mean, there was the unidentified channeler at the Perrin/Whitecloak/Trolloc battle. Tie the close relation to everything that happened in Tel'Aran'Rhiod and the dream spike with Perrin and the second dream spike appearing in the Black Tower and Morodin looks like a fair suspect for being Taim.
Though granted, the range of emotions that Taim has shown compared to Morodin really does not add up. Also, given the fact that Taim shows up so far ahead of Morodin in the books. But the question still remains of how Taim escaped, and exactly what was he doing between his escape and his reappearance with Rand's proclamation. EDIT: Damn spoiler tags. I think it's pretty evident that Moridin is not Taim. Taim was captured by the Tower, off leading people when he was a false Dragon (before Rand officially proclaimed himself), etc. Moridin is Ishamael, he was busy appearing as Ba'alzamon in the first few books before getting offed by Rand and reborn as Moridin. And Rand met Moridin in Shadar Logoth when fighting Sammael, he would've easily recognized him if he was Taim. At this point who knows what Taim is. Likely bet is he's just a Darkfriend or he's acting independently on his own (with his new zombie-ification powers or w/e). [/spoiler]
From the scenes in ToM,
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I'm pretty sure Taim is turning people with 13x13, the one with zombie powers would be Fain (that scene was pretty funny). He's obviously at least working with Moridin though, as he has the second dreamspike at the Black Tower.
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On November 16 2010 12:18 Kakera wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 11:59 writer22816 wrote:Meh I stopped reading WOT once I started reading ASOIAF. The latter is just so much better. Now I'm just waiting for ADWD to come out Oh really? Then why don't I just go into your little thread and post uncontributing slander like you do? Oh wait, it's been inactive for 3 months. I won't bother then. /goodday
There is so much irony in this post. You're a giant deuchebag
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On November 16 2010 11:10 LTT wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 11:00 Bair wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
So I finished it, and I have to say I am pretty impressed with most of it.
For starters, while I really do like Perrin as a character, until about...the forging of his Hammer I felt that he was pretty underwhelming. Then once he got his hands like that he started being pretty badass. Truly though, the Faile/Perrin bit was a breath of fresh air in the romance section of the book compared to Egwene/Nynaeve/Eylane (I actually hate the sections for these characters entirely). Matt's is over, so I cannot say much there...and Rand really just had 3 chicks fall in love with him without too much in the way of development).
Matt's section on the other hand...loved it. He has always been one of my favorites.
Rand, I read this without rereading the other books (or rather, I reread up until Crossroads of Twilight, and did not have time for the last few books). However, I really like him as a character. I always liked the interaction between him and Cadsuane as well.
But the most important thing is that I like that they are finally doing something about the black tower. I mean honestly...Elaida's fortelling about the Black Tower was what...3-4 books ago? It is nice to show that there is some development going on regarding it, even if it is just a hint of what will be going on in the last book.
Two minor (or major?) questions though.
1.) Someone mentioned that Asmodean's killer was revealed in the glossary. I do not have access to my book right now. Who was it?
2.) And has it ever been clearly stated that Taim is Damodred (or was it Demandred >.>)? I know that Taim is never spoken of without mentioning that half smile...
+ Show Spoiler +1.) Graendal. It was explicitly stated in the glossary and hinted at twice in the book. The first was with Moridin where she was explaining the death of Halima. He makes a comment regarding "making a habit of it" regarding killing forsaken. The second was in the epilogue when it explicity states that she is responsible for the deaths of 3 forsaken. Only her involvement with Mesaana and Halima are known so the 3rd is Asmo.
2.) It was explicitly stated that Taim is not Demandred by RJ at book signings. It was also stated that Demandred's counterpart (ie. the character he is disguised as) has not appeared in the story yet, but I can't remember which book that was true for. He may have shown up in TGS/TOM.
+ Show Spoiler +Oh man I've been thinking Taim was Demandred for so long now =/
On November 16 2010 13:35 Thermia wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 13:30 CorpseRT wrote:On November 16 2010 13:17 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
haha
Man sanderson rocks. Last 2 books have been the best since sooo long ago in the series. I just wish I didn't read it so fast. Since I'm here just wondering If there are any other fantasy series I Need to read.
Read A song of Ice and Fire, Sword of Truth,Started Malazan Book of the Fallen( Didn't continue after i read several people say first book was the only good one), Read Name of the Wind(WHICH IS AWESOME).. considering trying this dark tower series next. But am I missing anything that I should have already read already What, the first Malazan book of the Fallen book was by far the worst. O.o Yeah, whoever said that was flat out wrong. Toll The Hounds was my favorite, personally, and that's book #8. Dark Tower was very good as well, but it is a somewhat different style than the others you mentioned, so it might be hit or miss.
Oh yeah? Nice. I read the first one, was really hard to get into, but later on it went by pretty good. Been stalling from reading book 2 even though I own it because book 1 is still a bit fuzzy in my mind. Time to change that.
It's too bad they switched cover styles... I have the original cover of the first book, but all the rest is in the new style and it really irks me having the same series be in different book styles ~_~
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The Galad/Berelain thing was a bit too obvious, but it made sense, they both have "perfect" beauty and both have really shallow views of the world, very similar characters.
Taim has a dreamspike, so he's probably going to use the Asha'Man against Rand in Tarmon Gai'Don unfortunately.
Egwene is a dumb bitch to not understand the seal breaking.
Caemyln burning, oh shit mat, hahahahahaha. Verin was right about the curiosity but didn't realize the strength of Mat's hate/laziness towards Aes Sedai.
Nakomi was a real teaser.
Min still studying hard, looks like they figured out that Callandor is important but its going to fuck rand in the ass somehow. My bet is that the True Power can also be drawn from it, so the Dark One can use it against him, but also Rand can use the True Power due to the (no homo) balefire crossing link with Moridin, the Nae'Blis.
A Song of Fire and Ice is great, but its a little more down and dirty than WoT, which is more of a Heart Warming+Cool fights epic novel. You shouldn't directly compare them, also, about after book 7 Jordon seemed to struggle with the series, and slowed down and 8/9/10/11 were also the worse books in the series despite big things happening the rest was just so slow and boring. Sanderson is doing a good job finishing up though. I'd have to reread 1-7 but I'm pretty sure Sanderson is a better writer in general at least for fights/action.
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On November 16 2010 13:17 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
haha
Man sanderson rocks. Last 2 books have been the best since sooo long ago in the series. I just wish I didn't read it so fast. Since I'm here just wondering If there are any other fantasy series I Need to read.
Read A song of Ice and Fire, Sword of Truth,Started Malazan Book of the Fallen( Didn't continue after i read several people say first book was the only good one), Read Name of the Wind(WHICH IS AWESOME).. considering trying this dark tower series next. But am I missing anything that I should have already read already
Read Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy. It's only 3 books and they aren't especially long. I've recommended it to a lot of my friends and none of them have been disappointed.
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On November 17 2010 03:48 ShadowDrgn wrote:Show nested quote +On November 16 2010 13:17 [GiTM]-Ace wrote:
haha
Man sanderson rocks. Last 2 books have been the best since sooo long ago in the series. I just wish I didn't read it so fast. Since I'm here just wondering If there are any other fantasy series I Need to read.
Read A song of Ice and Fire, Sword of Truth,Started Malazan Book of the Fallen( Didn't continue after i read several people say first book was the only good one), Read Name of the Wind(WHICH IS AWESOME).. considering trying this dark tower series next. But am I missing anything that I should have already read already Read Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy. It's only 3 books and they aren't especially long. I've recommended it to a lot of my friends and none of them have been disappointed.
I loved Mistborn... but book 3 was just eh for me. I'd really recommend Elantris and Warbreaker, though. Both are fantastic and rank in my top 5 books I've read.
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