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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17705 Posts
November 06 2012 16:31 GMT
#241
On November 07 2012 01:28 DarkEnergy wrote:
but but i preorderd COH2


it'll be interesting to see if CoH2 ever comes out.. or if they stuff the money in their pockets and run to the creditors they have.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
GnarlyArbitrage
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
575 Posts
November 06 2012 19:52 GMT
#242
That would explain all those sales on Steam...

However, that extreme gap may very well provide another gap up to $2.5~$3.

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soullogik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1171 Posts
November 06 2012 20:19 GMT
#243
i tried to show homeworld to a friend a while ago and had completely forgotten all the controls
was not a good impression with me fumbling around trying to remember them all

games were so much better back in the day, everything was so freakin complicated and rewarding
young ho
Jarree
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland1004 Posts
November 06 2012 20:22 GMT
#244
Hmm a friend of mine works in THQ Montreal which is their newer studio. Hope her job is not in danger :/
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 21:25:55
November 06 2012 21:25 GMT
#245
I would rate Homeworld as good as BW any day of the week, if not better in my eyes. FFS i want a sequel so bad.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
November 06 2012 21:35 GMT
#246
On November 07 2012 06:25 Godwrath wrote:
I would rate Homeworld as good as BW any day of the week, if not better in my eyes. FFS i want a sequel so bad.


I'm sure you've seen cataclysm and homeworld 2 (Personally i found the cataclysm storyline much better then 2). But i have to agree the homeworld franchise was an incredible one. But getting used to controlling things in a 3 dimensional space can be tricky even though the controls were pretty friendly.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
hummingbird23
Profile Joined September 2011
Norway359 Posts
November 06 2012 21:42 GMT
#247
I liked the HW2 mechanics and gameplay better than HW1, it was definitely an improvement, I just had a massive issue with the Prophecy bullshit that they cooked up for a storyline. It was grand and all, but it lacked the narrative depth.
Doopliss
Profile Joined August 2012
5 Posts
November 06 2012 21:46 GMT
#248
[B]

Neither title is as good as Brood War or WoL,

Opinion.
You see a mousetrap, I see free cheese and a f%#king challenge. - Scroobius Pip
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
November 06 2012 22:13 GMT
#249
too much pain, not enough profit
Skirmjan
Profile Joined October 2012
Italy190 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 22:14:51
November 06 2012 22:13 GMT
#250
On November 07 2012 06:46 Doopliss wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]

Neither title is as good as Brood War or WoL,

Opinion.


About quality of the title, yes, it's an opinion.

About support, developer awareness of the community, and even basic bugfixes? the cold, hard truth.

DoW1 support history+ Show Spoiler +

I enjoyed a lot the first DoW saga, i even bought all the expansions (3)...can't really speak about vanilla or Winter assault but the last 2 expansions received less than 2 patches each, and what patches! Dark crusade was basically a freewin game for 2-3 races, and the tech prices were massively underpriced (imagine lair and hive tech costing 25/25 with painfully easy requirements in WoL). And it was the expansion famous for cleaning the mess of Winter Assault, really (balance wise)

Soulstorm was better balanced, due to not being made directly by Relic (it received a lot of flak however due to how badly the new flyers were implemented, a marketing decision) but it however shipped with a game-breaking bug:
The sisterhood player could build a structure and abort it for a bigger refund than the initial cost(!) therefore achieving infinite money.
Patch 1.01 came in, and fixed that, however it brought in a couple of lesser bugs and a bug that would reset the Eldar player's resource bank each time he used an ability of a type of units >.<
Then came Patch 1.02, fixing that (some months after launch) but breaking irreversibly the automated matchmaking. No patches followed 1.02. Tons of wasted potential, sigh.

Then came DoW2, which is pretty much universally hated by DoW1 fans due to a complete pace shift and also a genre shift (RTS->RTT).


Besides, Relic has an history of making bullshit expansions (yea 1 race per expansion in dow2, when you know at least 2 WILL be added,and are already planned)

I loved Homeworld 1 and 2,but i guess those were other times, and a different Relic.
(btw, yea HW2 is much better gameplay wise, expect in its usage of fighters and corvettes, which dumbed down the game a lot.... HW1 multiplayer was however a bugged repair corvette/frigate spamfest)

but but i preorderd COH2


I believe if shit was about to hit the fan, another big company/publisher would pick up CoH2, it's just too big of a title to be left in the dust... the development process could suffer a lot tho.

Shame about the Darksiders series...

Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10155 Posts
November 06 2012 22:39 GMT
#251
On November 07 2012 06:35 Archybaldie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 06:25 Godwrath wrote:
I would rate Homeworld as good as BW any day of the week, if not better in my eyes. FFS i want a sequel so bad.


I'm sure you've seen cataclysm and homeworld 2 (Personally i found the cataclysm storyline much better then 2). But i have to agree the homeworld franchise was an incredible one. But getting used to controlling things in a 3 dimensional space can be tricky even though the controls were pretty friendly.


Yes, i am speaking about the franchise mostly. It's one of the few games that when i watch some of the cutscene "videos" give me true nerd chills. The music... oh god DAT music (turanic raiders :ddd), at that time, i hadn't heard something that good since TA hehe. Yes BW music was good, but didn't give me that feeling ;P

Getting used was tricky i totally agree, but the controls were fine, complex, but they weren't clunky (which happens nowadays in an absurd amount of titles).

@Skirjman

Yes, it's an opinion of course, noone should ever discuss that. And as a DoW 1 and DoW 2 player (which i played competitively for quite time), their patch policy was awful to say the least. But the game feeling was quite good (DoW 1, DoW 2 is okeesh imho). I totally agree with you on that one... but my inner nerd child just remembers Homeworld and forgives everything haha.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-06 22:57:49
November 06 2012 22:57 GMT
#252
Just because of Homeworld, this makes me sad.

I enjoyed the DoW titles (quite) and CoH (a lot !) but these didn't stay very long in my little sanctuary of best games ever. Homeworld is still right in there...

I wonder where the original relic's developers ended...
LiquipediaWanderer
scDeluX
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada1341 Posts
November 06 2012 23:21 GMT
#253
I enjoyed Vanilla CoH a lot.

Americains vs Wer on Angoville all day !
Except that fucking T2 medic bunker strat lol that was abused to death.

I hope they will solve there problems and make CoH2.
Brood War is forever
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
November 06 2012 23:34 GMT
#254
On November 07 2012 06:25 Godwrath wrote:
I would rate Homeworld as good as BW any day of the week, if not better in my eyes. FFS i want a sequel so bad.

I still have Homeworld 2 installed on my computer. I've been praying for a third for years and years and years...and years...
Hello
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17705 Posts
November 07 2012 21:32 GMT
#255
Stock price is now down to $1.15
keeping in mind the 10 for 1 reverse stock split that occurred in the summer...

in January of this year if you bought 10 common shares of THQ it cost approximately $60
and those 10 shares are now worth about $1.

i hope Relic still gets CoH2 published.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 22:04:40
November 07 2012 22:02 GMT
#256
I know this might have been covered but why does it keep falling? Why won't it simply stabilize? I realize there has been som questionable business strategies in the past but, do they run that deep? And didnt they JUST relase a game like a month or two ago?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 22:11:15
November 07 2012 22:08 GMT
#257
On November 07 2012 06:46 Doopliss wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]

Neither title is as good as Brood War or WoL,

Opinion.

Neither title is as good as Broodwar, but CoH/DoW are 100000x better than that shitheap WoL.

I enjoy playing both games just to relax and have fun, Warhammer is easily my favorite universe anyway and the games are kinda mindless fun which i enjoy. I like CoH since well i enjoy WW2 games and its pretty enjoyable in its own rights(since you cant just faceroll through the game due to cover mechanics and all that)

I do hope they stay afloat though, I really wanna play a CoH game based on the eastern front -_-.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17705 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-07 22:16:48
November 07 2012 22:10 GMT
#258
On November 08 2012 07:02 unkkz wrote:
I know this might have been covered but why does it keep falling? Why won't it simply stabilize? I realize there has been som questionable business strategies in the past but, do they run that deep? And didnt they JUST relase a game like a month or two ago?


the oversimplified answer is this

they are not making money.

A more complex response is:

in an ``investors call`` that corporations with stock sold on NASDAQ must perform THQ provided no information.

Normally, EA and ATVI will provide an estimate of future earnings along with a `question and answer`` session with press members or whoever is attending.

THQI provided none of this. No estimates of future earnings. No ``Q&A`` session. And they HALTED TRADED on their stock immediately after ending their ``Investors call``.

During this session they admitted they have to pay off a $100 million bond in August of 2014. Looking at their upcoming products I see no way for THQI to raise $100 million.

Also, they hired a ``Venture Capital`` firm to help them raise money.

All these aer bad bad signs. Also, THQI might have to `dilute their common shares`` in return for money that they raise during this time of crisis. This makse the current common shares less valuable. Its like a country printing money without anything to back it up. If Canada out of no where tripled the amount of money in circulation then the current money held by every day people would be worth less.

That is a longer version. There is an even longer version than that.

On November 08 2012 07:08 arb wrote:
I like CoH since well i enjoy WW2 games and its pretty enjoyable in its own rights(since you cant just faceroll through the game due to cover mechanics and all that)


HuK is the greatest CoH player on planet earth. just thought i`d get that biased piece of information out there.


Now available at Toys R Us, the UDraw Tablet and UDraw Studio for $9.99
ROFLMAO.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
November 07 2012 22:15 GMT
#259
On November 07 2012 08:34 PH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2012 06:25 Godwrath wrote:
I would rate Homeworld as good as BW any day of the week, if not better in my eyes. FFS i want a sequel so bad.

I still have Homeworld 2 installed on my computer. I've been praying for a third for years and years and years...and years...


Imagine a homeworld with those new graphic engine with volumetric clouding, light effects,etc
That would be so amazing.

The fist one was so poetic, and you felt so fucking lonely, I loved it.


Looking back THQ had some very nice franchise alongside HW, red faction, CoH, DoW, even impossible creature looked really fun.
"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 07 2012 22:18 GMT
#260
On November 08 2012 07:10 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 07:02 unkkz wrote:
I know this might have been covered but why does it keep falling? Why won't it simply stabilize? I realize there has been som questionable business strategies in the past but, do they run that deep? And didnt they JUST relase a game like a month or two ago?


the oversimplified answer is this

they are not making money.

A more complex response is:

in an ``investors call`` that corporations with stock sold on NASDAQ must perform THQ provided no information.

Normally, EA and ATVI will provide an estimate of future earnings along with a `question and answer`` session with press members or whoever is attending.

THQI provided none of this. No estimates of future earnings. No ``Q&A`` session. And they HALTED TRADED on their stock immediately after ending their ``Investors call``.

During this session they admitted they have to pay off a $100 million bond in August of 2014. Looking at their upcoming products I see no way for THQI to raise $100 million.

Also, they hired a ``Venture Capital`` firm to help them raise money.

All these aer bad bad signs. Also, THQI might have to `dilute their common shares`` in return for money that they raise during this time of crisis. This makse the current common shares less valuable. Its like a country printing money without anything to back it up. If Canada out of no where tripled the amount of money in circulation then the current money held by every day people would be worth less.

That is a longer version. There is an even longer version than that.

Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 07:08 arb wrote:
I like CoH since well i enjoy WW2 games and its pretty enjoyable in its own rights(since you cant just faceroll through the game due to cover mechanics and all that)


HuK is the greatest CoH player on planet earth. just thought i`d get that biased piece of information out there.


Now available at Toys R Us, the UDraw Tablet and UDraw Studio for $9.99
ROFLMAO.

this is relevant how?
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