EPTAt least have an honest question like "why would you purchase such expensive basics, i dont understand" ;(
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Juliette
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At least have an honest question like "why would you purchase such expensive basics, i dont understand" ;( | ||
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sc2holar
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
On August 07 2013 02:26 Juliette wrote: Let's judge other people for the ways they choose to spend their disposable income! Come on guys. At least have an honest question like "why would you purchase such expensive basics, i dont understand" ;( I just wish I had that much disposable income  Would you just wear the tank top like that? Looks wierd to me. I like the other pieces though. | ||
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darthfoley
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sc2holar
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On August 07 2013 03:12 Najda wrote: I just wish I had that much disposable income Would you just wear the tank top like that? Looks wierd to me. I like the other pieces though. Nah, the tank top is for layering. You wear it under the T-shirt. Its very long, so the end will stick out below the t-shirt. The colour matches very well with black | ||
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andyrau
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On August 07 2013 02:26 Juliette wrote: Let's judge other people for the ways they choose to spend their disposable income! Come on guys. At least have an honest question like "why would you purchase such expensive basics, i dont understand" ;( it's kind of pointless to discuss this because they don't understand what you're actually buying. you're not purchasing the garment itself, you're buying into their vision and design. To regular people it's just a ridiculously expensive tank or a tee that fits close, to people that buy it for the aesthetic it's a completely different thing. Really, it's just a matter of perspective and beating this dead horse doesn't get anybody anywhere. On August 07 2013 03:12 Najda wrote: Would you just wear the tank top like that? Looks wierd to me. I like the other pieces though. The RO tank is meant to be thin so it gives a contrast between your double layer tee and any other garments you decide to layer over it. That said, on RO tanks especially, you often start getting tiny pinholes because the fabric is so sheer, it's just one of the various things that happen because of intended natural wear and, additionally gives it character. that's why julius quality >>> ro quality  + Show Spoiler + I'm a horikawa fanboy | ||
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sc2holar
Sweden1637 Posts
Still searching for the classic grail Jut neck in blood red :/ | ||
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krndandaman
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
On August 07 2013 04:16 andyrau wrote: it's kind of pointless to discuss this because they don't understand what you're actually buying. you're not purchasing the garment itself, you're buying into their vision and design. To regular people it's just a ridiculously expensive tank or a tee that fits close, to people that buy it for the aesthetic it's a completely different thing. Really, it's just a matter of perspective and beating this dead horse doesn't get anybody anywhere. that's also true. that said, i've yet to find the designer(s) i want to "buy into" in that sense. but i suppose that comes with finding your personal aesthetic | ||
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
On August 07 2013 05:18 krndandaman wrote: it's interesting that a "hobby" or interest (for a lack of better words) in fashion is so expensive though. Personally I could never see my self spend that much money on anything besides maybe a new computer. I'd be interested to learn more about why that is. I'm one of those people who don't really understand but I feel like I could appreciate those pieces better if there was a picture of them being worn :D implying you can't be fashionable on a budget I think andy put it very well - you're buying the vision and the aesthetic, not the item itself (else why not pick up a malaysian knockoff for 1/100th of the price or something from your mall for 1/10th). It's kinda like collecting art - you don't buy it to cover up a hole in the wall, you buy it to cover up a hole in your life sorta thing. Personally, I'm not at the stage where I'm only really starting to see the whole vision thing - it really takes time to start appreciating the construction of an outfit beyond "is this piece well made", "does it fit me" and "do the colours match". once you transcend the obvious you can start looking at what sort of statement a person makes by wearing their clothes. it's also the stage where you become judgmental of strangers for wearing things "wrong" | ||
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krndandaman
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greggy
United Kingdom1483 Posts
so suspensionpoint has further 20% off their sale so this SS coat would be <£150 (+shipping) but I'm not sure how I can wear it. can't find any fits on d.so or SF or anywhere else. | ||
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krndandaman
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
actually its a little unfortunate for me. i want to get some light-medium outerwear (if i need heavy outerwear fuck how i look i have a big ass coat because its fucking cold) but my budget (sub 200, maybe 300 if its nice enough) wont allow... .-. | ||
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Livelovedie
United States492 Posts
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JollYRoGeR
Sweden342 Posts
On August 06 2013 14:15 sc2holar wrote: This months early investments ![[image loading]](http://i1289.photobucket.com/albums/b506/Matt_Lim/juliusmoto1_zpsa7a2addd.jpg) Julius Moto Leather jacket (retail price around 2300 euro, got it for 1000£). Been hunting for this one for a long time. ![[image loading]](http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2868/9057045141_5be44b658d_o.jpg) Obscur Leather Jacket with super long drapey cotton sleeves and cape. Prototype, only one was produced. 800$ ![[image loading]](http://images.luisaviaroma.com/Big58I/0EH/026_c560d348-5a44-4b92-9638-df5c7b40f9e7.JPG) Rick Owens Tank Top. Can never get too many of these, 150£ ![[image loading]](http://images.luisaviaroma.com/Big58I/0EH/025_0d0b2ef5-6718-410e-b417-483943edf02f.JPG) Rick Owens Dual Layer T-shirt. Classic staple piece. 230£ Nice pickups, instantly understood that it was a swede when I for the first time in a long time saw something that actually was fashion. I bought my first pair of Italigente shoes today, and man.. The difference between handsewn italian shoes and those from big brands like Hugo Boss is undescribable. | ||
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ffadicted
United States3545 Posts
But IMO when you start buying sh*t like this and this, you're not buying fashion, or clothes, and pretending that they're "better purchases" then the 10-15 dollar version is silly. You're spending a ton of cash just because you can, and it makes you feel good to be able to spend that money. IMO it has nothing to do with fashion. Do what you will, pay however much you want (and can afford) on whatever you want, just don't pretend that it makes you any more knowledgeable, mature or any good at "fashion" tbh. In fact, when I read stuff like this, I automatically just know that likely the opposite is true, and you're just buying into something because of the hype around it/price tag around it/read about it somewhere/etc... Reading stuff like " first time in a long time saw something that actually was fashion" after seeing that just makes me laugh honestly haha My 2 cents PS: Not hoppin' on here to hate or anything, I lurk this thread a lot cuz it's got some good stuff, decided to post on this topic | ||
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Juliette
United States6003 Posts
i dont disagree that you buy expensive clothes because you can and have the money. at the end of the day being into clothes/fashion is consumerism (and a little art). disagree when you say it [doesnt make] you any more knowledgeable, mature or any good at "fashion" tbh knowing your aesthetic IS inherently being more knowledgeable, and so is knowing the aesthetic of a particular designer because you are less knowledgeable if you do not know that RO likes black or something like that. buying exactly what you want and not a cheap replacement is maturity because you spend less money buying shit you dont want. good, though, is pretty relative. also you're just buying into something because of the hype around it/price tag around it/read about it somewhere/etc alternatively, he bought it because he enjoys how it looks (both on him and on its own). that's something you don't quite account for. just adding counterpoints. but i think andy said it pretty well above - it's kind of pointless to discuss this because they don't understand what you're actually buying. you're not purchasing the garment itself, you're buying into their vision and design. To regular people it's just a ridiculously expensive tank or a tee that fits close, to people that buy it for the aesthetic it's a completely different thing. Really, it's just a matter of perspective and beating this dead horse doesn't get anybody anywhere. you view clothes differently than me or the other guys. and thats ok. although i dont particularly mind talking about this. also pls spoiler quoted pictures ty | ||
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andyrau
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On August 09 2013 06:32 ffadicted wrote: I think it's simple. Generally you pay more for quality/fit/looks, and that is 100% fine. No, a shirt from walmart is not as good as a similar looking shirt from Calvin Klein, for a simple example. But IMO when you start buying sh*t like this and this, you're not buying fashion, or clothes, and pretending that they're "better purchases" then the 10-15 dollar version is silly. You're spending a ton of cash just because you can, and it makes you feel good to be able to spend that money. IMO it has nothing to do with fashion. Do what you will, pay however much you want (and can afford) on whatever you want, just don't pretend that it makes you any more knowledgeable, mature or any good at "fashion" tbh. In fact, when I read stuff like this, I automatically just know that likely the opposite is true, and you're just buying into something because of the hype around it/price tag around it/read about it somewhere/etc... Reading stuff like " first time in a long time saw something that actually was fashion" after seeing that just makes me laugh honestly haha My 2 cents PS: Not hoppin' on here to hate or anything, I lurk this thread a lot cuz it's got some good stuff, decided to post on this topic If you ignore the fucktarded models/glasses that Luisa via Roma uses and focus only on the 'double layer unstable cotton' shirt, you'll notice that there's a lot of folding and tension on towards the bottom; it's kind of natural wrinkle that goes from your upper right pectoral to the left obliques. The sleeves are also bunched in a certain way that's impossible to replicate without ostentatious pins or excessive altering, and even then the effect wouldn't turn out as good. There's a reason why the shirt looks like that on the model, and it has to do with the specific way the shirt is cut and the fabric used. Your average pure cotton shirt will not have the same visual texture, nor will it drape downwards and to the side like it's shown. Hence, saying that this is not a 'better purchase' is wrong because a lot of time, effort, and thought goes into designing a shirt like this. I'm not saying it's impossible to replicate because almost everyone, including Helmut Lang, Alexander Wang, Horikawa, LUC, attachment, etc does this to their shirts in their own way nowadays. However, there's a substantial difference between a Walmart shirt and a shirt like this. Just because you can't appreciate or see the differences that attribute to the price doesn't necessarily mean that they aren't justified or unworthy. On the other hand, is it truly worth the what, 350-400 dollars for a tee? Definitely not. That's why I mentioned that to an average person, it's just a wrinkly, form-fitting tee. For another person, it's the appreciation of the technique and skill it takes to make something like this. See, if we compare this to traditional menswear maybe people will get it. You look at a pair of Jon Lobb London bespoke and compare them to, say, Crockett & Jones benchgrade, both pairs look exactly the same, minus a few burnishing markings and small design differences here and there. To the trained/experienced eye there's plenty of differences in tailoring, attention to cut, and small detailing for the trims. That's why a pair of JL bespoke costs 4k and a C&J costs anywhere from 200-800. Is it really 4k to make a fucking leather shoe? At most, including regular markup, materials, wages for workmanship, it's maybe a total of $700. Instead, you're paying for the craftsmanship, unrivaled attention lavished on the product, and the guarantee that the shit on your feet are top grade. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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