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http://keepthewebopen.com/sopa
Scribble
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2077 Posts
December 22 2011 08:41 GMT
#1501
Is anyone aware of what went down during the hearing yesterday? Has a decision been delayed again?
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 09:04:49
December 22 2011 09:02 GMT
#1502
On December 22 2011 13:05 ih8Australia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 12:17 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On December 22 2011 12:14 ih8Australia wrote:
Am I only the one who approves of this bill? I think it can do good too.. And people wont use music that they probably didn't pay for on their SC2 streams (recalls a moment when kawaiirice or whatever his name his admit he pirates musics and stated he didnt give a shit about it)

The only reason you approve of this bill is because you're uninformed. Watch the TotalBiscuit video linked above. If you still approve of it after, well... are you being paid by the RIAA?

EDIT: Just read your username, should have known you were a troll.


My name doesn't mean I am a troll its just a name it doesn't define who i am just because its a name.

That aside I already watched TotalBiscuits video prior to commenting. So what does that mean? What about illegal downloads? What about illegal app downloads (yes I have apps on itunes appstore and somehow been cracked into apptrackr and all).

how about you write better apps, instead of supporting censorship because you can't program.

Besides there's nothing illegal about cracked apps.
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
December 22 2011 09:09 GMT
#1503
I think that ih8Australia is suffering from the same as most companies. "Every pirated app is a lost sale". Which is of course not true. Also, every single app on the app store has been cracked and is available online somewhere else.

I agree that a bill on piracy does not necessarily means bad things, as long as we get good alternatives to get all the content we want. But most companies then struggle about international licensing and whatever else they come up with. They themselves are causing most of their problems.
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
Fjodorov
Profile Joined December 2011
5007 Posts
December 22 2011 10:35 GMT
#1504
Its problematic that the politicians blindly accepts the industrys assumption that they lose X amount of dollars because of filesharing. The economic consequences of filesharing are much more complex than "15 downloaded albums = 15 less albums sold". There is in fact research ackowledging the complex nature of this issue but pro-SOPA just ignore it. Their lack of knowledge shines through when they throw "jobs lost" numbers around like it was facts. They are oblivious of the consequences SOPA will have, yet they behave like this some simple matter like shoplifting.
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
December 22 2011 11:06 GMT
#1505
On December 22 2011 11:06 Fruscainte wrote:


Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Now every god damn soccer mom and paranoid idiot is going to call congress and tell them to pass this shit.

Fuck.

I mean really?

PIRACY IS STEALING MILLIONS OF AMERICAN JOBS!!!11!!1!!! SAVE AMERICA AND DEMOCRACY BY RESTRICTING YOUR OWN FREEDOM! YUP!


jesus, that is scary, land of the free? yeah right
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 13:25:26
December 22 2011 13:22 GMT
#1506
Hah. I wonder what Gizmodo want people on the internet to write to those companies.

http://gizmodo.com/5870241/presented-without-comment-every-single-company-supporting-sopa-the-awful-internet-censorship-law

EDIT:
On December 22 2011 20:06 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 11:06 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqmuloOdzrU&feature=player_embedded

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Now every god damn soccer mom and paranoid idiot is going to call congress and tell them to pass this shit.

Fuck.

I mean really?

PIRACY IS STEALING MILLIONS OF AMERICAN JOBS!!!11!!1!!! SAVE AMERICA AND DEMOCRACY BY RESTRICTING YOUR OWN FREEDOM! YUP!


jesus, that is scary, land of the free? yeah right

Sadly, the Land of the Free has a lot of Ignorant in it.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
December 22 2011 13:26 GMT
#1507
Has anyone talked to other people who do not know too much about the internet but politically active about this bill? I am curious to hear their opinions.
GohgamX
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada1096 Posts
December 22 2011 13:32 GMT
#1508
On December 22 2011 20:06 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 11:06 Fruscainte wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqmuloOdzrU&feature=player_embedded

Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

Now every god damn soccer mom and paranoid idiot is going to call congress and tell them to pass this shit.

Fuck.

I mean really?

PIRACY IS STEALING MILLIONS OF AMERICAN JOBS!!!11!!1!!! SAVE AMERICA AND DEMOCRACY BY RESTRICTING YOUR OWN FREEDOM! YUP!


jesus, that is scary, land of the free? yeah right


LOL @ the video... "They took our jobs"!!!!
Time is a great teacher, unfortunate that it kills all its pupils ...
Goldfishz33k
Profile Joined June 2011
United States22 Posts
December 22 2011 13:59 GMT
#1509
The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or submission. - John F. Kennedy

Whatever happened to this kind of thinking? they are taking rights away one by one, occupy wallstreet can hardly do a peaceful protest without being arrested, for what? to show that they do not approve of large corporations being in control of everything. now some of our basic freedom of speech is trying to be blocked by political parties that do not even know how to use the internet?
There are no stupid questions, just stupid people.
Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
December 22 2011 16:35 GMT
#1510
cant stop the internet baby
Casta
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark234 Posts
December 22 2011 16:39 GMT
#1511
The bill is a joke...

Lol at the entertainment industry and governments for trying to delay the inevitable... free (cheap) flow of information.
You are stuck in the past, times have changed... adapt to survive or die.
DocNemesis
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Philippines446 Posts
December 22 2011 17:05 GMT
#1512
The problem (and possible benefit) of piracy is that it's all about the service. Some places cannot acquire their entertainment over copyright region locks hence they get it through torrents and stuff. If the entertainment industry as a whole actually considered trusting their consumers instead of generalizing them as criminals, I think this isn't so bad. But based on the current form of the bill, it's just plain stupid.

It doesn't even protect people who use the said products for the sake of commentary.

Here to kick ass....with Violence. And I got a blog site: http://nemesistrestkon.wordpress.com
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
December 22 2011 17:14 GMT
#1513
Since this thread is 75 pages plz don't hate when I ask: How can I help as a european? I know that this primarily takes place in the states, but since it affects everyone I would like to jknow if I could help at some point?
You can attack with this?!
critique
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States135 Posts
December 22 2011 17:33 GMT
#1514
On December 23 2011 02:14 pestilenz wrote:
Since this thread is 75 pages plz don't hate when I ask: How can I help as a european? I know that this primarily takes place in the states, but since it affects everyone I would like to jknow if I could help at some point?

Its not easy, because, obviously, you don't have anyone representing you in congress and you can't legally give money to campaigns. That said, you can sure as shit stop buying stuff from the people who support it. The MPAA and RIAA are big supporters of this. You could tweet @ (@MPAA) and or email them with something like "hey, I like what you do, but if you keep supporting this SOPA nonsense, I am going to stop giving you my money," (well, maybe something a bit more eloquent than that ). It's not going to stop the bill in its tracks, but it will up the pressure on its backers, and every little bit helps.
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
December 22 2011 17:43 GMT
#1515
thx for the note, will strongly consider something alike that!
You can attack with this?!
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
December 22 2011 17:44 GMT
#1516
On December 22 2011 22:22 Mobius_1 wrote:
Hah. I wonder what Gizmodo want people on the internet to write to those companies.

http://gizmodo.com/5870241/presented-without-comment-every-single-company-supporting-sopa-the-awful-internet-censorship-law
Wow, every major news company is on there. No wonder there's no television coverage of this. Keep the people oblivious and let the bill that takes their rights away pass without even telling them.
"Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide" -Tastosis
v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-22 18:05:44
December 22 2011 17:50 GMT
#1517
I heard this bill was denied by congress, and courts, but Obama put it in through the FCC.... Can anyone confirm this cause I can't find shit, and I'm really worried.

And... I found it.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703581204576033513990668654.html

May not be the same as "SOPA" but its definitely interesting....

"He catches him with his pants down, backs him off into a corner, and then it's over." - Khaldor
So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-23 05:43:49
December 22 2011 18:21 GMT
#1518
Got a reply from Representative Heck, who appears to be against this bill:


Dear Tom,

Thank you for contacting me to share your comments regarding H.R. 3261, the Stop Online Piracy Act. I understand your concerns and appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.

Reasonable protections for intellectual property rights are critical to preserving jobs and ensuring the continued success of the U.S. entertainment and technology industries, but we must not stifle innovation by enacting burdensome and overly broad laws. Copyrighted materials, including music, movies, television shows, software, books and more can be easily—and illegally—obtained through file sharing networks, and we should continue to promote efforts to eliminate intellectual property theft. Fortunately, online piracy has declined significantly in recent years, thanks both to the closure of major illegal file sharing networks and rogue sites and to the rise of legitimate digital content providers.

As you may know, H.R. 3261 was introduced by Representative Lamar Smith (R-TX). This legislation would establish new laws to shut down "rogue sites" that infringe upon copyright protections and distribute unauthorized content. There are some concerns, however, that this legislation is too broad and will jeopardize copyright protections already in place. The private market has proven that it will innovate and provide attractive, legal solutions as technology continues to advance. As we move forward, our laws should not stifle creativity, but still provide artists, authors, and entertainers with protections for their hard work and ideas. This legislation was referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary, where it awaits further action. Though I do not serve on this committee, please be assured that I understand your concerns and will not support legislation that gives government the right to shut down websites or IP addresses without due process.

For additional information, please visit my website, http://www.heck.house.gov. From this site you can access statements about current events or pending legislation, and receive detailed information about the many services that I am privileged to provide for Nevadans.

Again, I appreciate your thoughts and it is an honor to serve you in Congress. Your suggestions are always welcome, and if ever I may be of assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.


Though I guess that would be in it's current form, anyway. Still no reply from any of my other representatives through the submission form.
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Profile Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
December 22 2011 18:27 GMT
#1519
On December 22 2011 17:41 Scribble wrote:
Is anyone aware of what went down during the hearing yesterday? Has a decision been delayed again?


They decided to cancel the hearing, probably because there wouldn't have been enough present to validate any votes.
"Yes I fucked my way to the GSL partnership" - Sundance
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
December 22 2011 18:27 GMT
#1520
So did this thing pass or what?
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