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I stopped reading a few pages in because it got monotonous but i'll give my 2 cents.
A year ago and earlier, everyone had the common interest of starcraft. Most of the veteran posters were still avid players, posted in the strategy threads, the brood war threads, and the tournament threads, along with general topics. Today, it seems as though most of those posters have quit brood war with no real desire to play.
I'll be honest. I havent looked at a brood war thread in god knows how long. I havent checked the strategy thread since I last posted a PvP guide. I barely even read the general thread anymore. Basically all I look at now are the sports and poker threads. In the past, we were always bonded together by the common interest of starcraft, but now the forum is divided into bw players and ex bw players.
I do realize that the quality of posts in general is down, and that is due in part to lack of attention by mods and an influx of new posters spamming everywhere, but the veteran posters have sort of disappeared from the quality threads. It's hard to have a good thread anymore without it erupting into flame. I'm usually very level headed and in probably the best thread i've seen on the site in a while (the woman tasering thread), I resorted to mindless accusations and retarded comments at the end. Sure this type of thing happened in the past as well, but it seems like every thread comes to that.
The best solution to the problems would be stricter mods. In the past, I think I would have made a very good mod, sort of like a slightly more tempermental drone with a higher penchant for banning, but now, I wouldnt even suggest it. And I feel that way about a lot of veteran posters. In the past they would have made great mods, but now they are just too disinvolved with the forum to help. To be completely honest, I dont have the foggiest idea who bloodbath is, but from what it sounds like, he needs to be banned asap.
I would suggest adding maybe 1 or 2 new mods that would enforce banning and keep the site cleaner than it has been lately. Also, the old posters need to step up and get involved in some more interesting threads besides just poker.
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I nominate you BigBalls
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On June 09 2005 01:15 Chibi[OWNS] wrote: btw vivian hsu o.Ov you like? ^^
bloodbath: your spam was getting on my nerves, plus some ridiculous comments you made on some debate threads. seriously tho, if you can post as well as you've done in this thread, i wouldn't have any problems with you.
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to whoever banned GaR
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This thread is over but I think what we've gained from it is that many of the mods ' aka fun mods ' have moved on and no longer have passion for bw or wish for the best maintenance at this website.
Imho new mods are in order.
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On June 09 2005 06:27 eternalbliss wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2005 00:24 {88}iNcontroL wrote: I think in terms of all the bw forums i frequent (wgt/gg.gamers[the worst]tl.net/legacy) this is by far the best. Their is a small influx of horrible posters, but true to tl.net's history their posting lives are short. Besides, you guys still got me, thats more than any forum can ask for.
What a joke, get him out of here. This is the best because they got me. =] lol
Having a tough time understanding your english, are you saying im a joke and "get him out of here" is me? But than you quote me and laugh.. im trying to understand. Maybe you can help? What are you trying to say here?
(pretty good example of a ... topical level of posting)
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Norway28926 Posts
gar was banned for being a shitty unfunny poster who tried to be funny, I had considered banning him after just his three first posts but figured maybe he'd sharpen up but he didn't.
(I didn't ban him. )
also don't get me wrong being unfunny isn't a bannable offense but when you attempt funnyisms in a majority of your posts and always fail, it is.
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I'll admit that I don't really care about this forum anymore. I never really stood out and I was only lurking, but there was a time I was actively visiting this forum, and enjoyed it. Right now, due to many things (one of those is I can't play bw anymore, I have some unknown problems with it) I lack interest in this forum, and only come to keep an eye on the progaming scene.
I agree that this forum needs new mods. I think Zia could make a good mod, so would Bigballs if he were interested, but it seems he too lost interest.
Well this was bound to happen, in the past few months we saw a lot of mods, veterans and quality posters losing interest in starcraft in general and this board. Maybe the hype will get back with WCG, I remember last year WCG brought us uhjoo, which is a really good thing ^^
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United States4471 Posts
A bit late to the discussion, but I've actually read through most of it (except for the off-topic nationalism discussion..).
I must admit that I'm probably part of the problem, or at least not helping it. I appreciate the fact that people take me seriously because I try to only post when I have a reason to, but I really am very inactive these days. I have my reasons for not frequenting the forum or reading threads as much as I used to, most of which involve my non-Internet life, but the bottom line is that I'm not banning because I'm not reading. Combining the fact that I'm busier nowadays with my lack of interest in a lot of what is being said on this forum, makes for a very inactive mod that isn't doing much modding.
I have to agree that the main reason for my lack of participation is the decline of interest in Starcraft. I may be a mod now, but I was and still am first and foremost a poster who came here because I enjoyed reading about Starcraft. Now that Starcraft is almost an afterthought, buried under many many threads about poker, politics, random news articles, etc., my interest in the site as dropped.
I mention all this to explain a growing trend many of the older posters who people claim to miss and whose absence has been suggested as a cause for the general decline of posts. From what I've read in some of these posts, it seems apparent that I am not the only one who feels the way I do about the forum nowadays.
I can list the reasons and causes for the lack of content interesting to me, but I really can't complain about it because it was and is always a tremendous privilege to have people take time out of their lives to entertain and inform others for nothing in return. Everything that makes this site great is a result of needless sacrifice from people who have no reason to work so hard on such thankless tasks, providing a great service to people who probably don't deserve or appreciate it. I have done what I can to try to contribute and help those people who have given so much to continue to maintain the quality of a site that I am truly proud to be a part of, but I also understand my own limitations and also the limitations of those people who keep this site going. We can only ask and expect so much.
As to solutions, I'm not really sure what will "fix" things here. New mods are one way, but I'm not in touch enough with the community these days to know if there are any good candidates lying around. Some people who have been suggested are indeed good posters, but the admins who run the site require more than that for moderators. Increased dedication from the current staff is another possible solution, but many just don't feel up to it or just plain can't do as much as we'd all like. I personally cannot bring myself to criticize or ask the other staff members to work harder and contribute more because they already go above and beyond with their efforts as is, and I really don't feel like one can complain unless they're ready and able to do better themselves (which I can't).
Whatever ends up happening, I have hopes for this forum regardless of what is done. The posting quality is not THAT bad considering how large the community is and the unrestrictive ways in which we allow people to join it. People may always look back to the "golden era" of TL.net, but most will probably have to accept that those days are probably long gone and cannot be brought back simply because Starcraft is winding down. The Strategy forum is a prime example, there simply isn't much to be discussed anymore except amongst those few who are still relatively new and unjaded. Fact is that the site was better when we had good gamers like Rekrul, Smuft, Naz, etc. who were interested in the game, but that isn't the case anymore and so it's inevitable that people will feel that something has been lost. We just need to get used to the idea and find a new identity for the forum where the real purpose for the forum, Starcraft, simply isn't as big anymore.
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Norway28926 Posts
honestly I think it all went to hell when stimey got banned
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On June 09 2005 12:22 Liquid`Drone wrote: honestly I think it all went to hell when stimey got banned
Are you saying stimey's banned caused the deterioration of the forum or that the quality of posts coincidentally started to drop around the same time as his banning?
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Norway28926 Posts
the lack of stimey made the forum deteriorate.
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On June 09 2005 12:22 Liquid`Drone wrote: honestly I think it all went to hell when stimey got banned
Hahahhahahaha, how true.
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Nothing was wrong with stimey until he started thinking he was invincible. Then he just because a prick who thought he was better than everybody.
And I don't say that about alot of people either =[
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On June 09 2005 12:41 Liquid`Drone wrote: the lack of stimey made the forum deteriorate.
preach it brother
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On June 09 2005 03:35 BloodBath wrote:Show nested quote +On June 09 2005 02:30 rpf289 wrote:On June 08 2005 20:06 SickofLife wrote:On June 08 2005 19:37 rpf289 wrote: Making a thread about how much new posters suck is like saying "I'm on here so much I notice how much people suck and so naturally I feel the need to make a thread about it because I'm so insecure about my posting quality and I'm gonna put them down so that I'm the coolest again."
wtf dude
I wouldn't even make a thread like this, and my posts suck. Seriously... you're just as bad. Yeah, I'm just as bad. Have you READ most of my posts? They're almost always on topic. Even if you don't agree with them, they're still on topic. That's what I'm bitching about. How stupid, and off-topic posts and posters are. Why must someone always bring up how much time people spend on the site in order to belittle them? As if it made a damn bit of difference. I spend a lot less time than I used to here, and the reason why is because of the decrease in quality posting. GroT, take a look at MvP[eV] and BloodBath, please. Well, to be honest, yes I've read a lot of your posts. I never had a problem with you. Sick of Life is a good song by Godsmack, as well. My problem is that you're whining about the new posters. New posters are notoriously lacking in intelligence. Just let it be. If certain people bother you so much, which obviously some have, just talk to an admin or a mod. I don't like BloodBath either. Fuck, I doubt anyone likes him. After reading your first post in this thread, I just felt that it was a little childish and immature. Just my opinion--not necessarily attacking you. How is anything I wrote childish? A person of adolescence would posess the intelligence to understand why I said that and not have to ask. Thank you for proving my point.
On June 09 2005 04:51 Shiv wrote: I agree with that election thing. That's a good way to force anyone who wants recognition not to be a jerk.
And I think rpf289 lacks the recognition he deserves. rpf289, I think you are a quality poster.
If you are to complain about how those boards are going down, make sure you're doing everything to help them up. Hehe, thank you Shiv. =)
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stimey would have been an ideal mod for general. his problem was he cared too much
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On June 09 2005 12:41 Liquid`Drone wrote: the lack of stimey made the forum deteriorate.
You're insane.
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