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renaissanceMAN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1840 Posts
September 28 2011 14:18 GMT
#61
just another reason why republicans are bat shit insane, honestly I don't see how anyone can think this is a smart or legal decision

and these same politicians want to criticize obama for his policies?
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KSMB
Profile Joined April 2011
United States100 Posts
September 28 2011 14:22 GMT
#62
Well, they are recognizing what millions of children have known for centuries, church is a form of punishment.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2011 14:32 GMT
#63
On September 28 2011 23:22 KSMB wrote:
Well, they are recognizing what millions of children have known for centuries, church is a form of punishment.

Very intelligent. "I better steal everything I can, if I get caught all that happens is I need to go to church". This is such an effective way to prevent crimes.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
September 28 2011 14:36 GMT
#64
On September 28 2011 23:16 stormtemplar wrote:
Even as a christian, I applaud the spirit of the law, but not the content. Churches are not meant to be rehabilitation centers for people who commit crimes. They don't try to serve that purpose and thus will fail. If this one does it will probably lose a lot of members who don't feel their church is right for them anymore.

Hold on a minute.

The purpose of church is sinners getting forgiveness and learn to live their lives in a better way, is it not? But here you are saying that people are going to start being NIMBYs in church because they don't want to pray with criminals?

That certainly doesn't sound very Christian to me.
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mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 14:38:49
September 28 2011 14:38 GMT
#65
On September 28 2011 20:01 pred470r wrote:
I don't think that this will catch-up in other places because if it does in a way you can just steal from people and have a million year "church" sentence. And with that being said I'd choose church over jail any day.

Buglary and Robbery are classified as violent crimes in the US, and I'm pretty sure many other places as well too.
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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
September 28 2011 14:38 GMT
#66
It's a good idea, who knows what will happen if the poor souls start thinking that whatever crime they did was their fault. No, it was Satan.
Unless the convicts are not Christian, that's when it's definitely their fault, like everything else that is wrong with the world.

You are welcome, and drop a coin in the collection box on your way out, you know how God is always broke.

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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 28 2011 14:42 GMT
#67
So many variables...location, type of crime/criminal, religious beliefs (or lack thereof), and on and on make this ineffective over a broad spectrum. It's a good idea and it may very well work for a such a small town with such a high concentration of Christians but it's definitely not going to work elsewhere without major revisions. Like the general idea of rehabilitation though, at least they are doing something about it.
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 28 2011 14:43 GMT
#68
On September 28 2011 23:38 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
It's a good idea, who knows what will happen if the poor souls start thinking that whatever crime they did was their fault. No, it was Satan.
Unless the convicts are not Christian, that's when it's definitely their fault, like everything else that is wrong with the world.

You are welcome, and drop a coin in the collection box on your way out, you know how God is always broke.

Peace


One of the more ignorant posts I've seen in quite some time, it's always good to read through topics where religion is mentioned and get a few good laughs at the morons.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
September 28 2011 14:43 GMT
#69
What if the criminal already goes to Church everyweek? You could simply get away with minor crimes with 0 punishment essentially.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
September 28 2011 14:46 GMT
#70
I wonder if this will be challenged in court, I could see this law being thrown out for not including all religions.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
September 28 2011 14:47 GMT
#71
This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat.
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 14:54:30
September 28 2011 14:53 GMT
#72
On September 28 2011 23:47 ayaz2810 wrote:
This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat.


Reading comprehension appears to be a weakness of yours. The first paragraph says it's an optional alternative to jail or fines.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
September 28 2011 14:54 GMT
#73
On September 28 2011 23:47 ayaz2810 wrote:
This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat.

Have you voted in this thread yet?

Just wondering.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
September 28 2011 14:55 GMT
#74
On September 28 2011 23:53 Charger wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 23:47 ayaz2810 wrote:
This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat.


Reading comprehension appears to be a weakness of yours. The first paragraph says it's an alternative to jail or fines.


If you really think it's an "option", you are dumber than you seem to think I am. Which do you think your average street criminal will choose? Derp.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
September 28 2011 14:56 GMT
#75
On September 28 2011 23:54 bonifaceviii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 23:47 ayaz2810 wrote:
This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat.

Have you voted in this thread yet?

Just wondering.


I have. See my above post. Seems to be a lot of stupid in this thread if they can't see that it's a blatant ploy to get people into church. A vast majority of people will not choose jail. Hell, probably all of them.
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Ayaz2810
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2763 Posts
September 28 2011 14:56 GMT
#76
On September 28 2011 23:56 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 23:54 bonifaceviii wrote:
On September 28 2011 23:47 ayaz2810 wrote:
This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat.

Have you voted in this thread yet?

Just wondering.


I have. See my above post. Seems to be a lot of stupid in this thread if they can't see that it's a blatant ploy to get people into church. A vast majority of people will not choose jail. Hell, probably none of them.

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Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 28 2011 14:57 GMT
#77
Better to offer options instead of incarcerating first time drug offenders. Best to offer programs for responsible use and rehabilitation from drug use but you take what you get.

Is it blurring the line between Church and State? Yeah. Not enough to make me uncomfortable though. Also I don't think you're forced to believe in Jesus, just attend.
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 28 2011 14:58 GMT
#78
On September 28 2011 20:05 KwarK wrote:
As long as you can do it for every religion (atheism included) then sure, whatever works for them. If you can only do it for Christianity then it's giving Christians preferential penal treatment which is obviously unfair.


What about atheists? I am offended by this policy, because it presumes religiosity is a way to atone for criminal behavior.
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Coraz
Profile Joined May 2010
United States252 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 15:05:37
September 28 2011 15:01 GMT
#79
This sounds like how America used to be before Christianity was overthrown and America was destroyed as a culture.

"It violates one basic tenet of the Constitution, namely that government can’t force participation in religious activity," Olivia Turner, executive director for the ACLU of Alabama told the paper." - giving an option is not forcing

Thats funny, I've read the Constitution about 50 times and never come across the part mentioned here.

I love "New Law"



edit: I just got busted with a clean record for first time drug offense, I wish I could go to church instead of up to 30 days in jail for doing nothing. (In fact, I already believe in Jesus, so what does that tell you about our immoral war on drugs?)
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Charger
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2405 Posts
September 28 2011 15:02 GMT
#80
On September 28 2011 23:55 ayaz2810 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 23:53 Charger wrote:
On September 28 2011 23:47 ayaz2810 wrote:
This is abysmal. You always hear about how atheists are jerks. But, for some reason, no one bothers to make a stink about things like this. Sure, atheists/humanists may push their opinions on people, but they don't actually FORCE you to do things. How blind can you possibly be to sit and think "this person did a bad thing. If I make him sit and listen to stories about the invisible sky wizard Jesus, he will stop committing crimes". The person who came up with this is a JUDGE. A (hopefully) well educated member of American society. This person is in a position of power. When I read stuff like this or about that psycho Bachmann, it really frustrates me. I can't believe how many people actually support this kind of insanity. If my family wouldn't rage about it, I would totally move to another country in a heartbeat.


Reading comprehension appears to be a weakness of yours. The first paragraph says it's an alternative to jail or fines.


If you really think it's an "option", you are dumber than you seem to think I am. Which do you think your average street criminal will choose? Derp.


So because most people will choose a certain option means it's not an option?
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.
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