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Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
September 28 2011 18:51 GMT
#101
If I'm going to reply then I'll read the entire OP, and oftentimes the thread as well, if I'm just reading it for giggles or whatever I'll just skim it, but I guess that means Yes, since otherwise I'm not replying.

Looking for ArcticCerebrate formerly from @USEast
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
September 28 2011 18:54 GMT
#102
Normally I do so, but I purposefully did not for the purpose of this thread.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
September 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#103
This reminds me of fifth grade when they tried to teach us to read all the directions before starting on homework or a quiz. So they gave us a quiz with a decent amount of directions at the start and in the directions it said to just write your name, ignore all the quiz questions and turn it over. Of course most people went through the whole quiz.

Too bad there wasn't a note hidden in the OP which said "don't answer the poll if you read this." I would have been interested in those results, see if anyone picked yes :p.
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
September 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#104
I voted and posted this before I read anything

u mad?
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
September 28 2011 19:15 GMT
#105
Yes, I do in fact read the whole OP most of the time, especially if I intend to reply to it. I am a supporter of netiquette, and I would hope that most of my fellow TL'ers are as well. But there seems to be a pervading air about threads on TL.net, and it obviously is not just localised to this site, but others as well. Too many users strive for the supposed 'online fame' by thinking they can achieve it by posting a lot. This leads to spamming, which is annoying as well.

I share the concerns of the OP, as I too have come across quite a number of posts which seem so irrelevant to the OP. In addition to that, one can only look to the times which some of those posts were posted and see that there could be no possible way that the user could have read AND responded to the OP in 2 min. This is such a common problem and something I think which should not be perpetuated by respectable TL'ers.
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Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
September 28 2011 19:18 GMT
#106
All day, everyday, I read the whole OP.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
September 28 2011 19:19 GMT
#107
On September 28 2011 19:38 FecalFrown wrote:
too long, didn't read

User was temp banned for this post.
What the hell... So voting no = ban in this thread or something?
I <3 Plexa.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 19:22:24
September 28 2011 19:20 GMT
#108
I only bother to read things that are well written. I don't mind length or bad grammar but as a random example anytime i see a "Conclusion" that's longer than the actual body of what they wrote I just glance over everything. I end up skipping a lot of things on tl.net as well as other websites since people don't understand that if you want to share your ideas its better to actually plan out what you want to write past proper spelling and decent-ok grammar

Also if anyone ever posts a single sentence and ends it with a period, I find it highly pretentious and I just ignore that post flat out
hihihi
Divergence
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada363 Posts
September 28 2011 19:24 GMT
#109
Aside from the Starcraft content, I'd say TL is an average forum (at best) for having actual discussions. I doubt many people read entire OPs. Personally, if I didn't read the whole thing I won't post. Sometimes I even read a large part of the thread before posting, but there's so much noise on TL that that is often a huge waste of time.
sCuMBaG
Profile Joined August 2006
United Kingdom1144 Posts
September 28 2011 19:24 GMT
#110
yes, almost all the time.

the only reason for me not to read the whole OP is, when I get either bored or pissed halfway through.

I don't read the whole thread, though. Well in fact, I barely post anymore:

- barely anyone reads the comments
- there are so damn many people here by now, that every comment you make disappears in the masses of pages and useless answers in no time.

so I actually just read, and in some rare cases (like this one... i finally get to complain about it^^) I post something.
Blasterion
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
China10272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 19:25:43
September 28 2011 19:25 GMT
#111
I will read up to a mininum of 75% of the content of the OP if I have taken a desire to post a reply in it
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cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
September 28 2011 19:25 GMT
#112
On September 29 2011 04:19 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 19:38 FecalFrown wrote:
too long, didn't read

User was temp banned for this post.
What the hell... So voting no = ban in this thread or something?


Just saying tl;dr has been bannable for awhile, though I usually see it as a warning. It's part of TL's war on non-contributing posts, though you can argue it's somewhat related in this thread.
cz
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States3249 Posts
September 28 2011 19:26 GMT
#113
I'd like to see the relationship between time spent on teamliquid vs average % of OP's read. I think you'll find the more experienced posters just skim it, while the newbies read it all and every page before replying.
Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
September 28 2011 19:33 GMT
#114
On September 29 2011 04:25 cz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2011 04:19 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
On September 28 2011 19:38 FecalFrown wrote:
too long, didn't read

User was temp banned for this post.
What the hell... So voting no = ban in this thread or something?


Just saying tl;dr has been bannable for awhile, though I usually see it as a warning. It's part of TL's war on non-contributing posts, though you can argue it's somewhat related in this thread.
That's what I was thinking, it's OK to warn or ban for TLDR 99% of the time but it was suitable for this specific thread imo.
I <3 Plexa.
CrucialSC
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada135 Posts
September 28 2011 19:34 GMT
#115
I try to be like the guy from the Dos Equis commercial (pretty obvious comparison):
"I don't usually post, but when I do, I try to make it a good one."

Which always includes reading the whole op and ~3 last pages of the thread if the replies are not too long, 1 page if they are.
Sokalo
Profile Joined May 2010
United States375 Posts
September 28 2011 21:48 GMT
#116
On September 28 2011 23:53 Mentalizor wrote:
I dont always post... But when I do... I get warned for not writing anything on topic



User was temp banned for this post.


LOL. The one upped temp ban to his attempt at warning martyrdom almost sent my coffee flying back at my screen.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it."
Monsyphon
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada190 Posts
September 28 2011 22:04 GMT
#117
If it's as long as this OP i wont read it. Any extra links I wont read too
Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
September 28 2011 22:05 GMT
#118
On September 29 2011 06:48 Sokalo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2011 23:53 Mentalizor wrote:
I dont always post... But when I do... I get warned for not writing anything on topic



User was temp banned for this post.


LOL. The one upped temp ban to his attempt at warning martyrdom almost sent my coffee flying back at my screen.


Hahaha, that is a good one.
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
darkscream
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2310 Posts
September 28 2011 22:26 GMT
#119
Nope.
Newbistic
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
China2912 Posts
September 28 2011 22:28 GMT
#120
I don't always read the entire OP before posting.

TBH what really happens is sometimes the thread title is interesting but the OP's post is long and boring. If a post grabs me in the first paragraph, I'll keep reading, but if it doesn't I'll kind of just skim over the rest and make a post.

OP posts should really be succinct and/or well written. This particular OP was long, rambling, and kind of boring. If I wasn't driven by guilt due to thread title I would definitely not have read the entire post.
Logic is Overrated
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