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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 13:05:40
September 28 2011 10:31 GMT
#1
Once upon a time, there was a forum member, just you like you. Except he was probably different, he obtained 1000 posts in less than a month, you wanna know how he did it? He posted one sentence replies without reading the OP and just read the title. He was caught by admins and was accused by the whole society of the super mega galaxy of being a spammer. His lawyer denied, his parents argued with other parents, his friends began to begin riots. And the next thing you know a war broke out and the cosmos of spammers was under seige from aliens called mods and admins.
The poster denied the fact till the bitter end and fought against the accusation. There were rockets, siege tanks, banelings, ban hammers, Neutrinos and super awesome mega lasers. The battle will never be concluded.


Okay back to the real topic,
Hey guys, just like any other day I've been roaming Teamliquid when something struck out to me. How many people actually read the full OP before posting? I know that in blogs there will be a lot of content and some people dont actually read the full OP or read it at all, some are blatantly obvious. I mean, i'm guilty, sometimes I read only half the OP when I feel extremely lazy and reply with a post responding to the first half of the content. I have been to quite a lot of forums and its obvious that there are so many people who doesn't actually read the whole OP, whether it is about baneling control or about the latest bleach analysis, this is why we have tl;dr's

So my question, do you read the op before posting? Please be honest, im interested on the population of people who do
Poll: do you read the whole op before posting?

Yes (479)
 
51%

Sometimes (349)
 
37%

No (105)
 
11%

933 total votes

Your vote: do you read the whole op before posting?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): Sometimes



tl;dr no. read the whole op

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Gnial
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada907 Posts
September 28 2011 10:33 GMT
#2
Unnecessarily long, semi-rambling OP's like this one actually serves to support those who vote no...
1, eh? 2, eh? 3, eh?
Ausfailia
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia123 Posts
September 28 2011 10:34 GMT
#3
On September 28 2011 19:31 RogerX wrote:
tl;dr no. read the whole op


Actually, that kind of is an appropriate tl;dr.

Also I was severely disappointed at the lack of surprise content hidden in the OP
DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
September 28 2011 10:35 GMT
#4
This poll could use a "sometimes" option
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Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:36:12
September 28 2011 10:35 GMT
#5
hard read it was. but being a hero I took my guts and read it. so I think - yes. not sure about reading everything people write in respond though.

On September 28 2011 19:35 DorF wrote:
This poll could use a "sometimes" option


yes
valheru
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia966 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:38:58
September 28 2011 10:36 GMT
#6
Do I read the whole OP? No.
Do I read the whole OP if I intend to post? Yes, of course I do, why wouldn't I?
I generally don't make a post that addresses the whole OP but I still read the whole thing (sometimes misread)

EDIT: And sometimes I just comment on other posts but I still read the OP
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CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
September 28 2011 10:36 GMT
#7
Lots of shitty writers out there, can be painful to read some posts all the way through, however once you've read the topic title and the first paragraph or so you can basically tell what all the rambling is going to be, and give a well thought out response.


I've found that reading an entire OP can cause me to realize how retarded the author was, and then I just abandon any hope of helping them through a response.

tl;dr Reading the whole OP is ruining E-Sports (jk)
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 28 2011 10:36 GMT
#8
Before posting? yes.
Before voting in the poll? no.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
September 28 2011 10:37 GMT
#9
If I see a thread I don't read it through the end I usually don't post in that thread. But I have to admit that I sometime posted without reading the full OP, specially when it's a looong one. Guilty :/
But I totally agree with you, in my opinion there should be some sort of common rule that you shouldn't post if you haven't read the whohle thing (same goes with replays and players asking advices). But this is internet and everybody do what he wants, GL admins
Shewklad
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden482 Posts
September 28 2011 10:37 GMT
#10
I just voted "yes" and then I realised I didn't read this whole OP...
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Tictock
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States6052 Posts
September 28 2011 10:37 GMT
#11
In my experience, most people just don't enjoy reading. Don't know if it's just not appealing to them or if it's years of being forced to in school that makes them never want to do it again. I however, have always enjoyed reading and while there are times that I just skim a OP I will generally read the whole thing.

It is kinda funny when you think about it that so many people come to forums, don't read whats been posted before them and just respond (often exactly like 20 people before them). My question to those people is why should we read your post when you cant be bothered to read ours?
I can take that responsibility.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
September 28 2011 10:38 GMT
#12
it actually depends on the topic. i sometimes skip the op and read the posts lol
but if the OP is actually interesting enough, i dont mind the length, id read the whole thing
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FecalFrown
Profile Joined June 2010
215 Posts
September 28 2011 10:38 GMT
#13
too long, didn't read

User was temp banned for this post.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:42:01
September 28 2011 10:41 GMT
#14
If the OP is written in decent english and formatted properly, I'll read it. If it's not, I'll read the first few replies, see if the whole thing has potential judging from the reactions, and then read the OP.

*edit: This is reading only, obviously. I never reply to topics without having read the OP.
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
September 28 2011 10:42 GMT
#15
Despite the longish OP I can't see how this is actually anything more than a poll... a poll on whether people read OP's or not -_-. I don't think this is thread-worthy.

On September 28 2011 19:33 Gnial wrote:
Unnecessarily long, semi-rambling OP's like this one actually serves to support those who vote no...
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oldgregg
Profile Joined February 2011
New Zealand1176 Posts
September 28 2011 10:44 GMT
#16
Will we get banned if we vote 'no'?
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Danjoh
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden405 Posts
September 28 2011 10:45 GMT
#17
On September 28 2011 19:36 ShadeR wrote:
Before posting? yes.
Before voting in the poll? no.

What he said basicly.

In this case tho, when i opened the thread and saw the poll, I was urged to just vote "yes", but then I saw quite a few clicked no and was wondering if he wrote somewhere in the text "If you read the whole OP vote 'no' in the poll"...

But I always read the full OP if I intend on replying to something, and depending on the length of the topic, I iether read it all, or read the first 2 pages, and the last couple of pages to see if what I'm going to say is still relevant.
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
September 28 2011 10:45 GMT
#18
Poll: How many pages do you read through before posting?

6+ (48)
 
42%

2 (28)
 
24%

1 (16)
 
14%

3 (13)
 
11%

4 (8)
 
7%

5 (2)
 
2%

115 total votes

Your vote: How many pages do you read through before posting?

(Vote): 1
(Vote): 2
(Vote): 3
(Vote): 4
(Vote): 5
(Vote): 6+


I think a better question is how many pages do you read through before posting?
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
Nibbler89
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
884 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-28 10:56:00
September 28 2011 10:50 GMT
#19
On September 28 2011 17:37 CatNzHat wrote:
You're just being retarded, you don't get armor for lings vs marines, you get armor for lings vs tanks and blings vs tanks.. there comes a point in TvZ where if you're getting 1 shot by tanks, you're lings are gonna be pretty useless.


Pretty good example of what OP is talking about. It was in the thread about whether + 1 armor for marines first is better than +1 weapons.

The funny part was after he realized his mistake he blamed the OP for poor wording when he was the only one to get confused lol.
oxley
Profile Joined July 2010
Australia34 Posts
September 28 2011 10:51 GMT
#20
I don't post I lurk.
May all your hits be crits.
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