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zeMoose
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland51 Posts
September 13 2011 10:46 GMT
#181
On September 13 2011 19:40 Rannasha wrote:
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On September 13 2011 19:36 scFoX wrote:
Is it worthwhile?


Hell yes. I'd sign up in a heartbeat.


Me too
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 10:57:16
September 13 2011 10:52 GMT
#182
On September 13 2011 06:05 murphs wrote:
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On September 13 2011 06:00 WarChimp wrote:
I have always been curious as to what would happen to religion if we found intelligent life in the universe. Would the Catholic/Islamic (And whatever others) Church adapt or die?


We'd be shipping out interstellar missionaries :D


Heh, according to Orson Scott Card we would:
A. Blow them up
or B. Convert them to Catholicism (or whatever other religion managed to send missionaries there first).

For an interesting novel discussing missions to colonize other planets, read Stephen Baxter's book Ark. It is the sequel to Flood, but if you ignore the back story about why they are fleeing earth it can be read by itself.

RE: people wondering why "super earth", it's because the planet has (substantially) more mass than earth, but still far less than a gas giant. For instance, the first one found was 7.5x the size of earth.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 13 2011 10:52 GMT
#183
On September 13 2011 16:27 Tippecanoe wrote:
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On September 13 2011 16:21 ShadeR wrote:
On September 13 2011 16:08 Tippecanoe wrote:
With current technology how long would it take to travel 30 light years? 300 ish years?

Anybody know how fast a space shuttle travels?

Nasa shuttle travels almost 17500mph so 1 light year would take about 38263 years, 30 light years ... 1147890 years. So little more than 1 million years. methinks


Well shit i was close no?

Any scientists here can theorize a way for us to travel fast enough to where it would be relevant to explore one of these planets.

We all know travelling at the speed of light is impossible.

Antimatter fueled starships? i dunno..CATTLEBRUISER OPERATIONAL!
IamaGrapeMan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada165 Posts
September 13 2011 10:56 GMT
#184
On September 13 2011 05:55 ampson wrote:
Now let's get to work on that faster-than light travel? Looks sweet. But why is it called SUPER EARTH?


it refers to the mass of the planet in comparison to earth's
HaruRH
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Singapore2780 Posts
September 13 2011 11:16 GMT
#185
Oh god. Please humanity, invent :
1. Self sustaining soldiers
2. Tanks that can go into seige mode, like seige tanks
3. Planes with 2 rotors on each side of it
4. A plane (no matter what shape it is) that can project a drone that automatically intercepts all incoming bullets
5. While you're at it, invent invisibility for the plane
6. Maybe some planes that can heal injured soldiers

Why? You ask. It is so that when the alien comes, we can do the 1-1-1 POOSH and we might be able to defend our planet with ease
It is fucking D4 and you are still alive as a CONFIRMED FUCKING TOWN. This is how fucking terrible scum thinks you are - Koshi
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 13 2011 14:31 GMT
#186
One of the interesting results of this study is that at least 40% of star systems contain Neptune sized or smaller planets on <100 day orbits. The real number is probably much higher as they're still missing most Earth sized planets or planets with longer orbital periods.

There are 40 known star systems within 15 light years of the Sun. Chances are at least some of them have "habitable planets". At least in the sense that the temperature and surface gravity is right. They might still have toxic atmospheres.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 15:00:05
September 13 2011 14:41 GMT
#187
Aw man I thought this was going to be new instead of a rehash from last month.
At 0.27 AU I still think the radiation from Gliese 370 would be too intense for life to exist outside of the (potential) oceans.



On September 13 2011 17:21 HaXXspetten wrote:
Cool
Now how do we get over there :/

also... why "Super Earth"? lol


A non gaseous planet that is anywhere from 1.9 to 10fold the mass of Earth
1 M⊕ = 5.9722 × 1024 kg. so anywhere between 1.9 M⊕ and 10 M⊕

Anything larger is referred to as a giant planet. Most giant planets will be primarily gaseous (Jupiter).

Though media does use the term Super Earth liberally for flair without adhering to scientific conventions so if it's on CNN it could mean anything.

Anyway, Gliese 370 is 2.11625993 × 1014 miles (36 ly) away. Don't get your hopes up for an exploration trip. Let's say we have a breakthrough in the next ten years (magic) and we can send manned ships at the same speed as probes. So that's 44 miles per second.

To get to this planet it would take 249,000 years.
(estimate)

Sorry to be a buzz kill.






1 M⊕ equals the mass of Earth
우정호 KT_VIOLET 1988 - 2012 While we are postponing, life speeds by
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
September 13 2011 14:42 GMT
#188
Awesome! Don't know how we could get there though, haha
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 14:47:43
September 13 2011 14:47 GMT
#189
On September 13 2011 20:16 HaruRH wrote:
Oh god. Please humanity, invent :
1. Self sustaining soldiers
2. Tanks that can go into seige mode, like seige tanks
3. Planes with 2 rotors on each side of it
4. A plane (no matter what shape it is) that can project a drone that automatically intercepts all incoming bullets
5. While you're at it, invent invisibility for the plane
6. Maybe some planes that can heal injured soldiers

Why? You ask. It is so that when the alien comes, we can do the 1-1-1 POOSH and we might be able to defend our planet with ease

You're shitting me. By the time they set down the nexus they'd find that we mined out the map a couple hours ago.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
September 13 2011 15:32 GMT
#190
Thoses planets are too far and too big. This study is nice but doesn't bring anything new really...
More than 200 billions planet in our galaxy, and more than 200 billions galaxy in Observable universe.... The problem doesn't reside in knowing they are there but more on how could we possibly ever get a drone or a human on any of those planets.
+ As stated before, Super planets have like 4 time earth gravity so it is absolutely useless for us human to colonize such planets.
The universe is awesome and I love astronomy but I'm realistic and we can only imagine what's out there until we have the technology for better observation of the planets.
Traveling there is not even imaginable with our technology.
Traeon
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria366 Posts
September 13 2011 15:41 GMT
#191
Thoses planets are too far and too big.


Yes, but that doesn't mean there aren't small ones out there, the small ones are just harder to detect than big ones.
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 13 2011 17:34 GMT
#192
On September 14 2011 00:32 Diks wrote:
Thoses planets are too far and too big. This study is nice but doesn't bring anything new really...
More than 200 billions planet in our galaxy, and more than 200 billions galaxy in Observable universe.... The problem doesn't reside in knowing they are there but more on how could we possibly ever get a drone or a human on any of those planets.
+ As stated before, Super planets have like 4 time earth gravity so it is absolutely useless for us human to colonize such planets.
The universe is awesome and I love astronomy but I'm realistic and we can only imagine what's out there until we have the technology for better observation of the planets.
Traveling there is not even imaginable with our technology.


It's a step in the process. The technology itself is quite amazing too: As the planet goes around its orbit it tugs the star back and forth. They can detect changes in the stars speed that's smaller than 1 m/s by looking at slight shifts in frequency of the absorption lines.

That's still an order of magnitude higher than what's needed to detect true Earth analogues (i.e, 1 Earth mass planet around a star similar to the Sun in a one Earth year orbit), but it's several orders of magnitudes better than what they had 10 or 15 years ago.
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 18:10:53
September 13 2011 18:10 GMT
#193
EDIT: YAY I'm a Zealot :D! EN TARO ADUN!

I'm surprised no one has posted this yet lol:


On September 13 2011 19:38 UKISS wrote:
I wanna move to these planets so I can escape all the mexicans here.

I'm not mexican, but that was a bit uncalled for, and I've lived most of my life right in the middle of where many of them go to D:
sirachman
Profile Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
September 13 2011 18:21 GMT
#194
On September 13 2011 17:59 Boblhead wrote:
Why the fuck do they tease us with shit like avatar

Why do "they" tease us? No one is teasing you. Science fiction is meant to be both entertaining and inspiring. All those things that do not yet exist will only come to exist by the hard work of those of our generation that decide to work hard, experiment, and innovate instead of simply wishing and waiting. Geniuses and inventors are not born they are self made with struggle and sacrifice.
Deadpoetic0077
Profile Joined September 2010
United States63 Posts
September 13 2011 18:30 GMT
#195
On September 13 2011 16:25 arbitrageur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 16:21 ShadeR wrote:
On September 13 2011 16:08 Tippecanoe wrote:
With current technology how long would it take to travel 30 light years? 300 ish years?

Anybody know how fast a space shuttle travels?

Nasa shuttle travels almost 17500mph so 1 light year would take about 38263 years, 30 light years ... 1147890 years. So little more than 1 million years. methinks

need warpgate tech

You sir are awesome.
Failure is only an opportunity to learn
Deadpoetic0077
Profile Joined September 2010
United States63 Posts
September 13 2011 18:33 GMT
#196
Would this planet really be life sustaining? Since its 3. whatever times as big wouldnt we be 3. whatever times as heavy?
Failure is only an opportunity to learn
sirachman
Profile Joined April 2011
United States270 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 18:40:43
September 13 2011 18:35 GMT
#197
On September 13 2011 23:41 Probe1 wrote:
Anyway, Gliese 370 is 2.11625993 × 1014 miles (36 ly) away. Don't get your hopes up for an exploration trip. Let's say we have a breakthrough in the next ten years (magic) and we can send manned ships at the same speed as probes. So that's 44 miles per second.

You can go ~300km/s (187mph) using VASIMR and even faster using other near term (Next 10-30 year) technologies, not to mention pusher plate type fission methods.
By your math that would be 249,000*44/187=58589 years. Any trip of this distance would require a generation ship, imagine a big city like ship. That would be just under 600 generations, quite a bit. However everyone needs to realize that humans have only been attempting to think up ways to travel fast in space for the last 50-60 years much less developing and testing actual hardware. There are obviously far better methods we will come up with as a species in the not too far future.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
September 13 2011 18:36 GMT
#198
Argh! I'm worried about the cost of plane tickets in the future!
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Mortal
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
2943 Posts
September 13 2011 18:45 GMT
#199
Guess we better start studying the theoretical tachyons then.
The universe created an audience for itself.
Tschis
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil1511 Posts
September 13 2011 19:10 GMT
#200
On September 14 2011 03:33 Deadpoetic0077 wrote:
Would this planet really be life sustaining? Since its 3. whatever times as big wouldnt we be 3. whatever times as heavy?


Maybe not sustaining to humans. But it could have another alien race in there that's stronger/better adapted ^^
"A coward is not someone that runs from a battle knowing he will lose. A coward is someone who challenges a weak knowing he will win."
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