Blizzard Entertainment's Warcraft universe is a rich fantasy setting that revolves around the epic conflict between the opposing forces of the Horde and the Alliance. Since its debut in 1994, Warcraft has developed a loyal following across the globe, with several bestselling, award-winning PC games and a range of popular licensed products including novels, action figures, apparel, comic books, board games, and more. World of Warcraft, Blizzard Entertainment's subscription-based massively multiplayer online role-playing game set in the Warcraft universe, is the most popular game of its kind in the world. Its most recent expansion, Wrath of the Lich King, is the fastest-selling PC game of all time, with more than 2.8 million copies sold in its first 24 hours of availability and more than 4 million in its first month.
His evil is legend. Lord of the undead Scourge, wielder of the runeblade Frostmourne, and enemy of the free peoples of Azeroth. The Lich King is an entity of incalculable power and unparalleled malice -- his icy soul utterly consumed by his plans to destroy all life on the World of Warcraft. But it was
not always so. Long before his soul was fused with that of the orc shaman Ner'zhul, the Lich King was Arthas Menethil, crown prince of Lordaeron and faithful paladin of the Silver Hand. When a plague of undeath threatened all that he loved, Arthas was driven to pursue an ill-fated quest for a runeblade powerful enough to save his homeland. Yet the object of his search would exact a heavy price from its new master, beginning a horrifying descent into damnation. Arthas's path would lead him through the arctic northern wastes toward the Frozen Throne, where he would face, at long last, the darkest of destinies.
EDIT- apparently this isn't the trailer for the movie, its just the cut scene from WC3 TFT starts at 1:27 modedit: i hate fake trailers
Why has this movie been so underhyped? Do you think anyone famous will play the voice actors (It is going to be all CGI right?) Do you think they will announce anything at blizzcon about it? Do you think it will be done by 2012 lol?
Underhyped? It's been in production and "in the works" for like 10yrs now. It's Blizzard's version of Duke Nukem forever. People just eventually gave up looking for any inclination that it's moving forward.
guys, the release date has been bumped FORWARD a year. a move like this from blizzard is unprecedented.
also, the movie is warcraft, not world of warcraft, and the frozen throne was pretty much the greatest expansion pack in story and mechanics for any game ever.
A. The movie is basically vaporware B. WoW basically destroyed Warcraft's lore, such that anything post-WoW will need to dismiss the game as non-canon (since they won't do this, the movie is guaranteed to be trash)
I mean the cinematics were so cool from all the games and were my favorite part of playing the games. I really don't understand why blizzard hasn't made a Warcraft CGI movie. That would be the best thing ever. Edit: I'm disappoint I thought this was gonna be new CGI material this is just an old cinematic.......
That isnt a real trailer... it is literally the exact citemetic from WC3, I just re-played it and beat the campaign for fun, same exact thing. I doubt Blizzard would use a citemetic from the early 2000's as their trailer for a movie.
I always liked warcraft more then starcraft(maybe because I played warcraft 3 for 8 years before playing sc2?) Anyways I like the atmosphere of the game and really hope this movie comes out soon. But I don't think it ever will. If it is released I am so watching it.
The song at the end of the video isn't from WC3 though. It's the song "invincible" written for the fall of the lich king patch in WoW. On a side note, "invincible" is probably the best piece of music ever written for a blizzard game.... I recommend everyone check it out, even if you don't play WoW.
On September 10 2011 11:03 EnderCraft wrote: The song at the end of the video isn't from WC3 though. It's the song "invincible" written for the fall of the lich king patch in WoW. On a side note, "invincible" is probably the best piece of music ever written for a blizzard game.... I recommend everyone check it out, even if you don't play WoW.
why do they call the mount invincible if you can see it?
On September 10 2011 11:03 EnderCraft wrote: The song at the end of the video isn't from WC3 though. It's the song "invincible" written for the fall of the lich king patch in WoW. On a side note, "invincible" is probably the best piece of music ever written for a blizzard game.... I recommend everyone check it out, even if you don't play WoW.
why do they call the mount invincible if you can see it?
Maybe because it's just invincible and not invisible.
On September 10 2011 11:03 EnderCraft wrote: The song at the end of the video isn't from WC3 though. It's the song "invincible" written for the fall of the lich king patch in WoW. On a side note, "invincible" is probably the best piece of music ever written for a blizzard game.... I recommend everyone check it out, even if you don't play WoW.
why do they call the mount invincible if you can see it?
Maybe because it's just invincible and not invisible.
Umm afaik Raimi said the WoW movie wasn't his main project anthey hadent even finished the screenplay? Unless they've gone completely under the radar with casting and filming, I don't see how this is possible.
On September 10 2011 11:29 MozzarellaL wrote: Don't get the point of showing a story Blizzard told once in WC3, once in WoW, and probably once in a book, all in completely different ways.
I guess it's time to show it again, in another way, who doesn't like a cash grab, anyway?
How about people who don't know the warcraft lore? I know a couple of people who don't know anything about warcraft but they love heroic fantasy movies and they'll probably be looking forward to this one.
On September 10 2011 10:49 Stark1 wrote: A. The movie is basically vaporware B. WoW basically destroyed Warcraft's lore, such that anything post-WoW will need to dismiss the game as non-canon (since they won't do this, the movie is guaranteed to be trash)
On September 10 2011 11:29 MozzarellaL wrote: Don't get the point of showing a story Blizzard told once in WC3, once in WoW, and probably once in a book, all in completely different ways.
I guess it's time to show it again, in another way, who doesn't like a cash grab, anyway?
tons of people who watched the LotR movies never read the books
Warcraft movie was announced years ago, completely forgot about it. I was slightly excited when it was announced about five years ago but now not so much.
Don't think it was even meant to be about Arthas originally.
On September 10 2011 12:08 jimmyjingle wrote: I think Raimi did an excellent job in the spider man trilogy. Especially given the script and plot.
sam raimi co-wrote all 3 movies lol. although personally I love raimi. I'm pretty sure this movie is not in production at all yet, as raimi is about to direct a wizard of oz prequel.
Holy shit this is sweet. When I used to think about a WC movie it would get me so hyped.
K, remember making a sick city with roads and walls and shit in WC1? SICK, SO COOL. Remember when the Orc read the mission objectives to you in WC2, and that amazing music played? OMG Remember THIS? WC3 CINEMATICS WERE SO DOPE.
I don't know shit about any Warcraft storyline, but I've never seen anything live-action do magic really well. Especially in a fantasy setting. Gandalf is considered a wizard, yet... I don't remember him throwing any fireballs.
There's ACTUAL magic and sorcerers and shit in Warcraft. I've always wanted to see it well done. Can they do it here? :O
I don't know shit about any Warcraft storyline, but I've never seen anything live-action do magic really well. Especially in a fantasy setting. Gandalf is considered a wizard, yet... I don't remember him throwing any fireballs.
There's ACTUAL magic and sorcerers and shit in Warcraft. I've always wanted to see it well done. Can they do it here? :O
Lord of the Rings showed that Fantasy can be done on the big screen. Gandalf might not throw fireballs but i recall plenty of magic on-screen.
If a floating eye of raging fire isn't magic then im not sure what does qualify as magic.
Horde, Humans, Undead, night elfs and ROBOTS! DECEPTICON AND AUTMOBOTS. The horde, humans undead and night elfs must fight as one to defeat the decepticons. Lots and lots of explosions and a sexy night elf girl.
I don't know shit about any Warcraft storyline, but I've never seen anything live-action do magic really well. Especially in a fantasy setting. Gandalf is considered a wizard, yet... I don't remember him throwing any fireballs.
There's ACTUAL magic and sorcerers and shit in Warcraft. I've always wanted to see it well done. Can they do it here? :O
Lord of the Rings showed that Fantasy can be done on the big screen. Gandalf might not throw fireballs but i recall plenty of magic on-screen.
If a floating eye of raging fire isn't magic then im not sure what does qualify as magic.
yeah i also think that the X-Men movies showed that there is a way to let "magic elements" ,like trowhing fireballs, look good
On September 10 2011 10:43 SpoR wrote: Why has this movie been so underhyped? Do you think anyone famous will play the voice actors (It is going to be all CGI right?) Do you think they will announce anything at blizzcon about it? Do you think it will be done by 2012 lol?
I had tears in my eyes when I saw this in the campaign. So god damn epic!
The storyline for WC3 was so much better than WoW. WoW was more like a void-filler. Like they left too many open strings so just opened more instead of closing the old ones.
According to Deadline, Raimi has chosen to make the Wizard of Oz prequel Oz The Great And Powerful his next picture instead of the Warcraft game-to-film adaptation he's been developing with Legendary Pictures for awhile now.
The longer it is pushed back the more likely it wont get made, Warcraft ain't getting more popular with time.
Was really hoping for a new movie storyline, something to lead into WC4 or what the heros that went beyond the portal were doing, don't know never cared for Arthas and the LK characters/story.
they havent even completed the script yet and they have gone through a fair few writers/directors in the last 3-4 years since it was announced. blizzard has said on every occassion they are taking this EXTRA slow to make sure they get it right. 2013 sounds far more believable then 2011. id write this off as silly internet rumours.
Live action fantasy has been taken up a notch since LOTR and Game of Thrones, so they've got a lot to live up to.
But there's been so little progress on this project I'm kinda doubting it'll ever get made. I guess that, game or movie, a blizzard project is a blizzard project, with all that entails.
To be honest I fail to see how any film could be cooler then their CG cinematics:
I have been wishing for Blizzard to start making their games into movies for years. I'd honestly love to see the Diablo series turned into movies as well. Actually hell, SC could make some awesome movies too....(I'm such a nerd)
I still remember loading up warcraft 3 roc and hearing the german voice of thrall for the first time. It was so ridiculously bad that I instantly changed to the english version.
I will be laughing if the voices are equally bad in this movie but I still have my hopes up.
If they wanted to make a WC movie with a decent story, why not just start from the very beginning with the invasion of Stormwind by the first Horde after coming through the gates and Lothars journey to Lordaeron with refugees?
That gives people the background of the entire conflict at the core of the universe and avoids any of the expansion shit.
One thing working in the movies favor is the fact that Blizzard, imo, has by far and away the best voice acting and cinematics for their games. That may translate to some good scenes/actors in the movie.
Making the CGI cinematics for W3/SC2 takes months...years for a mere few minutes. To do a whole movie, they would need a full building's worth of animators and more specifically, machine-power to do all the rendering.
Remember how much computer power was used to render the animations of the transformers movies? It was a whole floor of computer power in god knows what building for a mere bunch of frames when optimus "transforms". It can be done but it's very resource-demading.
On September 10 2011 21:52 AsnSensation wrote: WoW storyline is plain crap, just make a movie about arthas' road from the reign of chaos campaign, was the best ever
Damn straight. A movie, (or several) spanning Arthus' slow descent from spoiled prince to crazy undead madman would be fantastic. His relationship with Jaina, Uther, his father, going nuts and slaughtering that whole town, etc. There's a lot of potential for great storytelling there.
I hate what they did with WoW in general, (and even the latter half of wc3 honestly)
Orcs aren't evil, just misguided/possessed? What? LAME. They're ORCS. You know, smash everything, kill everyone, pillage everywhere, etc! And I'm almost scared this is what they're doing with the Zerg in sc2... T_T;
I'd also be thrilled with a movie set in WC1 or 2. Just humans vs orcs, fighting off a massive invasion or crossing over into the dark portal. Could be an awesome war movie.
On September 10 2011 22:39 Haemonculus wrote: I hate what they did with WoW in general, (and even the latter half of wc3 honestly)
Orcs aren't evil, just misguided/possessed? What? LAME. They're ORCS. You know, smash everything, kill everyone, pillage everywhere, etc! And I'm almost scared this is what they're doing with the Zerg in sc2... T_T;
Well, that was part of their lore way before WC3 though
Or rather WC3 is where they reinterpreted Orcs. WC2, they were still the evil Orcs that I much prefer. Honestly, I'd prefer a WC1 or WC2 movie. Especially because you could deal with the fall of Medivh, the (retcon) plottings of Guldan and probably use Sir Lothar as the main character. In any of the campaigns though, it would be difficult to portray the length of time and the number of battles. You'd have to find a story thread that would touch a couple key battles and imply the rest.
Warcraft lore died with WoW, I was really hopin' the movie would center around the first two wars, or maybe wc3 events..anything else will be really shifty ;o
On September 10 2011 22:14 Suvorov wrote: Making the CGI cinematics for W3/SC2 takes months...years for a mere few minutes. To do a whole movie, they would need a full building's worth of animators and more specifically, machine-power to do all the rendering.
Remember how much computer power was used to render the animations of the transformers movies? It was a whole floor of computer power in god knows what building for a mere bunch of frames when optimus "transforms". It can be done but it's very resource-demading.
CGI experts, please correct me and enlighten us
yeah somewhere it was said that the WoW: Lich King trailer took 8 months to make. That's just 2 minutes. Imagine now 2 hours. 40 years? :D
On September 11 2011 00:34 Neeh wrote: Warcraft lore died with WoW, I was really hopin' the movie would center around the first two wars, or maybe wc3 events..anything else will be really shifty ;o
I'd argue with that. The first original WoW has opened the lore even more. There were many amazing stories there: Onyxia at SW, Ancient Gods & Ragnaros, the Silithids. But after that one: yeah, it kinda got weird. Outland was ok but not great.
BTW: It was an official Blizzard statement that the movie is going to be covering events before wow. And wow was 10 years after the wc3. If I'd spend some time I'd find that official post by blizz, but I'm kinda lazy. Know that info is legit and there's gonna be no late-wow shinnanigans! Only early lol.
On September 11 2011 00:47 thoradycus wrote: can anyone please explain to me how WoW ruined warcraft lore? O.o
Someone else can go into specifics if they want. The jist of it is, they retconned a lot of stuff in WoW. Their reasoning was that continuing the story was more important than canonical accuracy.
Actually there was some talks for Raimi to direct a live action Warcraft movie a few years ago and it was supposed to come around this year. But the project died. If you check the 1st coment to that article it was made 4 years ago...
The movie is in development hell right now so there isn't any specific plans to release, no director, no plot, no cast and no release date.
edit - You should change the OP because the content is misleading.
On September 11 2011 01:12 EdSlyB wrote: Actually there was some talks for Raimi to direct a Warcraft movie a few years ago and it was supposed to come around this year.
actually it was the official blue-post by blizz and there was an interview with Sam Raimi, who said that he actually started playing wow after they have made a deal. He said that he had a couple of projects to take care of first and then the Warcraft project will begin. ( I guess he was talking about Spartacus and Possession)
On September 11 2011 00:47 thoradycus wrote: can anyone please explain to me how WoW ruined warcraft lore? O.o
The lore is shaped around mmo gameplay. They make changes and new twists to fit whatever the game needs, instead of having the game tie into a story already fleshed out. I won't go into details, but it's pretty obvious.
On September 11 2011 00:32 Falling wrote: Or rather WC3 is where they reinterpreted Orcs. WC2, they were still the evil Orcs that I much prefer. Honestly, I'd prefer a WC1 or WC2 movie. Especially because you could deal with the fall of Medivh, the (retcon) plottings of Guldan and probably use Sir Lothar as the main character. In any of the campaigns though, it would be difficult to portray the length of time and the number of battles. You'd have to find a story thread that would touch a couple key battles and imply the rest.
This. Orcs in WC2 were badass, in wc3 and WoW they are just wussies....
And yeah Warcraft lore is officially dead. Still I really thought Gul'dan was so badass, my favorite char in the lore
i'm really confused, is Blizzard fucking up again or do i have no idea what i'm talking about but..
"Long before his soul was fused with that of the orc shaman Ner'zhul, the Lich King was Arthas Menethil..."
i'm pretty sure my memory of playing WC3 tells me that the acolytes always said when they spawned "my life for Ner'zhul". also since i was an undead player, the lore character, Ner'zhul, was a badass so i had to look him up. what i looked up at the time was that he was a lich's soul that went into a dead orc shaman, this all happened WAY before Arthas... so what the fuck am i missing here?
What is it with "Rise" in recent films? Rise of the Planet of the Apes. Rise of the Lich King. The Dark Knight Rises. Rise of the Shoulderpiece Pixel Counts, etc. Anyway, I've been following news involving this movie for a good long while, and despite how fed up I am with WoW, I really really enjoy the Warcraft story. It's got to be one of my absolute favorite fantasy story lines. Whenever it comes out, regardless of how long Raimi takes, I will certainly be watching it.
The same way lots fantasy movies are "better". Special effects. And that's ok though, because as I said before, the actual Warcraft story is very very immersive. So as long as they don't take a totally random direction and divert from everything Warcraft has stood for, I think it will be worth the ticket price.
On September 11 2011 05:44 Lonniehaskel wrote: The same way lots fantasy movies are "better". Special effects. And that's ok though, because as I said before, the actual Warcraft story is very very immersive. So as long as they don't take a totally random direction and divert from everything Warcraft has stood for, I think it will be worth the ticket price.
On September 11 2011 05:32 BMaBlekk wrote: i'm really confused, is Blizzard fucking up again or do i have no idea what i'm talking about but..
"Long before his soul was fused with that of the orc shaman Ner'zhul, the Lich King was Arthas Menethil..."
i'm pretty sure my memory of playing WC3 tells me that the acolytes always said when they spawned "my life for Ner'zhul". also since i was an undead player, the lore character, Ner'zhul, was a badass so i had to look him up. what i looked up at the time was that he was a lich's soul that went into a dead orc shaman, this all happened WAY before Arthas... so what the fuck am i missing here?
nono I dunno lore that much, but in general NerZul was an orc shaman. He got killed (I guess), but his spirit was still serving to the Burning Legion. So Burning Legion decided to give Ner'Zul a task to destroy azeroth by giving him powers to make undead and spread the plague. He was sent there and put in a "casket" (the frozen throne). Then he made Arthas come to him at Northrend and they have mutated into one Lich King abomination. sort of.
On September 11 2011 05:32 BMaBlekk wrote: i'm really confused, is Blizzard fucking up again or do i have no idea what i'm talking about but..
"Long before his soul was fused with that of the orc shaman Ner'zhul, the Lich King was Arthas Menethil..."
i'm pretty sure my memory of playing WC3 tells me that the acolytes always said when they spawned "my life for Ner'zhul". also since i was an undead player, the lore character, Ner'zhul, was a badass so i had to look him up. what i looked up at the time was that he was a lich's soul that went into a dead orc shaman, this all happened WAY before Arthas... so what the fuck am i missing here?
I'm pretty sure the gramatical error is what's tripping you out.
Should be: Long before his soul was fused with the orc shaman Nerzul. The Lich King was ONCE KNOWN as Arthas Menethil. Also, you are reading it out of context. Dont just post one sentence from a paragraph so you can cut it down for no reason.
Long before his soul was fused with that of the orc shaman Ner'zhul, the Lich King was Arthas Menethil, crown prince of Lordaeron and faithful paladin of the Silver Hand. When a plague of undeath threatened all that he loved, Arthas was driven to pursue an ill-fated quest for a runeblade powerful enough to save his homeland. Yet the object of his search would exact a heavy price from its new master, beginning a horrifying descent into damnation. Arthas's path would lead him through the arctic northern wastes toward the Frozen Throne, where he would face, at long last, the darkest of destinies.
On September 11 2011 09:44 Half wrote: WC3 was the last time WC lore still made any sense and was still cool, so good choice on the setting I guess.
Yup in WC3 lore is really really rich then WoW came out and everyone you thought died came back alive and people never die now.
Couldn't agree more. When they brought Illidan back for TBC i was like BULLSHIT I SAW HIM DIE YOU LAZY PRICKS!!!!! Not to mention kael'thas x3 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
On September 11 2011 05:32 BMaBlekk wrote: i'm really confused, is Blizzard fucking up again or do i have no idea what i'm talking about but..
"Long before his soul was fused with that of the orc shaman Ner'zhul, the Lich King was Arthas Menethil..."
i'm pretty sure my memory of playing WC3 tells me that the acolytes always said when they spawned "my life for Ner'zhul". also since i was an undead player, the lore character, Ner'zhul, was a badass so i had to look him up. what i looked up at the time was that he was a lich's soul that went into a dead orc shaman, this all happened WAY before Arthas... so what the fuck am i missing here?
I think this is a poetic way of saying he was destined to be the Lich King, as far as I can tell. Only way that it would make sense.
On September 11 2011 09:44 Half wrote: WC3 was the last time WC lore still made any sense and was still cool, so good choice on the setting I guess.
Yup in WC3 lore is really really rich then WoW came out and everyone you thought died came back alive and people never die now.
Couldn't agree more. When they brought Illidan back for TBC i was like BULLSHIT I SAW HIM DIE YOU LAZY PRICKS!!!!! Not to mention kael'thas x3 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
well technically we say illidan lay unconscious at the end of TFT..so i guess they can get away with that one..not so much kael'thas setback etc
On September 10 2011 22:14 Suvorov wrote: Making the CGI cinematics for W3/SC2 takes months...years for a mere few minutes. To do a whole movie, they would need a full building's worth of animators and more specifically, machine-power to do all the rendering.
Remember how much computer power was used to render the animations of the transformers movies? It was a whole floor of computer power in god knows what building for a mere bunch of frames when optimus "transforms". It can be done but it's very resource-demading.
CGI experts, please correct me and enlighten us
yeah somewhere it was said that the WoW: Lich King trailer took 8 months to make. That's just 2 minutes. Imagine now 2 hours. 40 years? :D
On September 11 2011 00:34 Neeh wrote: Warcraft lore died with WoW, I was really hopin' the movie would center around the first two wars, or maybe wc3 events..anything else will be really shifty ;o
I'd argue with that. The first original WoW has opened the lore even more. There were many amazing stories there: Onyxia at SW, Ancient Gods & Ragnaros, the Silithids. But after that one: yeah, it kinda got weird. Outland was ok but not great.
BTW: It was an official Blizzard statement that the movie is going to be covering events before wow. And wow was 10 years after the wc3. If I'd spend some time I'd find that official post by blizz, but I'm kinda lazy. Know that info is legit and there's gonna be no late-wow shinnanigans! Only early lol.
I'm not a 'CGI expert' but I'm pretty sure most Blizzard cinematics don't use actors, costumes, props, green screens or even one camera. It is 100% computer-generated graphics. The rendering is what takes time. Again, I'm no expert, and my only source is the cinematics panels from the Blizzcons I have attended.
On September 11 2011 09:44 Half wrote: WC3 was the last time WC lore still made any sense and was still cool, so good choice on the setting I guess.
Yup in WC3 lore is really really rich then WoW came out and everyone you thought died came back alive and people never die now.
Couldn't agree more. When they brought Illidan back for TBC i was like BULLSHIT I SAW HIM DIE YOU LAZY PRICKS!!!!! Not to mention kael'thas x3 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Illidan wasn't brought back for tbc, he never died in the first place.
I'm no expert but this movie has been coming out for 2+ years now. Don't get your hopes up. It'll let you be pleasantly surprised when it does come out.
On September 11 2011 09:44 Half wrote: WC3 was the last time WC lore still made any sense and was still cool, so good choice on the setting I guess.
Yup in WC3 lore is really really rich then WoW came out and everyone you thought died came back alive and people never die now.
Couldn't agree more. When they brought Illidan back for TBC i was like BULLSHIT I SAW HIM DIE YOU LAZY PRICKS!!!!! Not to mention kael'thas x3 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Illidan wasn't brought back for tbc, he never died in the first place.
I'm sorry, when we all played TFT when it was fresh and new, he died. We saw him get killed and arthas walk to the top. It wasn't untill well well after they said he was "unconscious"
On September 11 2011 09:44 Half wrote: WC3 was the last time WC lore still made any sense and was still cool, so good choice on the setting I guess.
Yup in WC3 lore is really really rich then WoW came out and everyone you thought died came back alive and people never die now.
Couldn't agree more. When they brought Illidan back for TBC i was like BULLSHIT I SAW HIM DIE YOU LAZY PRICKS!!!!! Not to mention kael'thas x3 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Illidan wasn't brought back for tbc, he never died in the first place.
I'm sorry, when we all played TFT when it was fresh and new, he died. We saw him get killed and arthas walk to the top. It wasn't untill well well after they said he was "unconscious"
Play again, he wasn't killed, he just ran away injured.
On September 11 2011 12:33 Arkless wrote: ummmmmm........ Grevious slash to the chest, usually=death. No where is he shown running away injured, or even getting up for that matter
After a long battle, and control going back and forth between the two enemies, Arthas activated all obelisks, and the doors to the Frozen Throne were opened.
But Illidan was not finished yet. Meeting the weakened Arthas at the glacier's base, the two warriors engaged in single combat. After a few minutes of exchanging blows, however, Arthas overcame Illidan's defenses and cut him down. Illidan Stormrage fell in the snow, dead, or so it seemed. He was badly wounded, but not killed. Arthas was quite aware of this, and before taking his leave, warned Illidan to leave Azeroth and never return. After it became clear for Vashj and Kael that they could not destroy the Frozen Throne, they retreated, eventually back to Outland, taking Illidan with them.
Note that the in-game animation between Illidan and Arthas was originally planned to be a video cinematic. Time constraints, however, forced the scene to be done inside the game. The developers have said that their greatest regret about this change is that many assumed Illidan died, when the video would have revealed that Illidan survived to watch Arthas's transformation.
On September 11 2011 09:44 Half wrote: WC3 was the last time WC lore still made any sense and was still cool, so good choice on the setting I guess.
Yup in WC3 lore is really really rich then WoW came out and everyone you thought died came back alive and people never die now.
Couldn't agree more. When they brought Illidan back for TBC i was like BULLSHIT I SAW HIM DIE YOU LAZY PRICKS!!!!! Not to mention kael'thas x3 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Illidan wasn't brought back for tbc, he never died in the first place.
I'm sorry, when we all played TFT when it was fresh and new, he died. We saw him get killed and arthas walk to the top. It wasn't untill well well after they said he was "unconscious"
Blizzard's stated over and over that they didn't intend for it to appear that way.
They ran out of time and had to rush the cinematic, otherwise it would have been a lot more epic and no one would have thought Illidan was dead.
For all intensive purposes though, he did die, in that in TBC, he's a completely different character than the Illidan from WC3. WC lore really did die after WC3, WoW is just an abomination in terms of WC lore.
Still my favorite cinematic ever:
I hope the movie doesn't have Illidan in it at all tbh, they will probably fuck him up even more than WoW did.
Anyways, what exactly is the new information about the movie in this thread?
On September 13 2011 01:55 zeru wrote: I'm a massive lore nerd and I'm still okay with the warcraft lore has evolved over the WoW times. Feels like I'm the only one though
Na, there was plenty of people on WoW who loved it for whatever reason when I still played WoW. Most people who have played WoW never played WC3 though, I bet I wouldn't really have a problem with WoW lore if I had never played WC3.
On September 11 2011 09:44 Half wrote: WC3 was the last time WC lore still made any sense and was still cool, so good choice on the setting I guess.
Yup in WC3 lore is really really rich then WoW came out and everyone you thought died came back alive and people never die now.
Couldn't agree more. When they brought Illidan back for TBC i was like BULLSHIT I SAW HIM DIE YOU LAZY PRICKS!!!!! Not to mention kael'thas x3 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Illidan wasn't brought back for tbc, he never died in the first place.
I'm sorry, when we all played TFT when it was fresh and new, he died. We saw him get killed and arthas walk to the top. It wasn't untill well well after they said he was "unconscious"
Blizzard's stated over and over that they didn't intend for it to appear that way.
They ran out of time and had to rush the cinematic, otherwise it would have been a lot more epic and no one would have thought Illidan was dead.
For all intensive purposes though, he did die, in that in TBC, he's a completely different character than the Illidan from WC3. WC lore really did die after WC3, WoW is just an abomination in terms of WC lore.
On September 13 2011 01:55 zeru wrote: I'm a massive lore nerd and I'm still okay with the warcraft lore has evolved over the WoW times. Feels like I'm the only one though
Na, there was plenty of people on WoW who loved it for whatever reason when I still played WoW. Most people who have played WoW never played WC3 though, I bet I wouldn't really have a problem with WoW lore if I had never played WC3.
Well, that was all released well well well after the expansion had come and gone. It was retconned, regardless of what they say. He died, they needed a new a villain. Wallah, retcon. IDC what tripe they are feeding us, they could have easily shown him looking up or kneeling up to see arthas walk away even within the ingame cinematic.
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