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VPCursed
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
1044 Posts
September 13 2011 01:42 GMT
#1561
are they really booing ron paul? he actually makes sense
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 01:43:24
September 13 2011 01:43 GMT
#1562
Oh god.

Santorum makes me cry. The fact people believe that garbage is idiocy.

GO RON PAUL.
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
September 13 2011 01:43 GMT
#1563
Oh man Santorum threw in "American exceptional-ism".

Ron Paul getting boo'd. :/
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
September 13 2011 01:43 GMT
#1564
Pathetic crowd.

Makes me cry that these people can vote.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 13 2011 01:43 GMT
#1565
On September 13 2011 10:40 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 10:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 13 2011 10:36 Sadist wrote:
Perry looks like the most reasonable out of all of them (sadly, considering his creationism vs evolution stance)

The hate for the EPA and FDA is ridiculous


Really?

I always thought that Romney seemed more reasonable.



Romney is bash obama 24/7 and is offering far more rhetoric.


As a guy with a plan, I think Romney's less rhetoric than Perry. Perry has more rhetoric and no plan to show for it.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
September 13 2011 01:44 GMT
#1566
Im vehemently anti republican but anyone adopting Ron Paul's foreign policy would do us a favor. This they are jealous of our freedom bullshit is condescending and gets us nowhere.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7291 Posts
September 13 2011 01:45 GMT
#1567
On September 13 2011 10:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 10:40 Sadist wrote:
On September 13 2011 10:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 13 2011 10:36 Sadist wrote:
Perry looks like the most reasonable out of all of them (sadly, considering his creationism vs evolution stance)

The hate for the EPA and FDA is ridiculous


Really?

I always thought that Romney seemed more reasonable.



Romney is bash obama 24/7 and is offering far more rhetoric.


As a guy with a plan, I think Romney's less rhetoric than Perry. Perry has more rhetoric and no plan to show for it.



Maybe Perry just looks better because hes on the defensive. No one is asking him about what he'd do, its more about what he has done (both of those last talking points were incredibly reasonable to me)
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
necrOtix
Profile Joined August 2011
81 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 01:52:23
September 13 2011 01:48 GMT
#1568
The crowd is fucking disgusting. They cheer at the stupidest things... Ugh.... Tea party will ruin America with allt he hicks / down syndrome southerners banding together
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 13 2011 01:51 GMT
#1569
A+ answer from Romney about bringing back Churchill's bust.
Senorcuidado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States700 Posts
September 13 2011 01:51 GMT
#1570
rofl! herman cain "I would bring a sense of humor to the white house because America is too uptight."

okay herman you just won my vote <2
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 13 2011 01:54 GMT
#1571
On September 13 2011 10:45 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 10:43 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 13 2011 10:40 Sadist wrote:
On September 13 2011 10:38 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On September 13 2011 10:36 Sadist wrote:
Perry looks like the most reasonable out of all of them (sadly, considering his creationism vs evolution stance)

The hate for the EPA and FDA is ridiculous


Really?

I always thought that Romney seemed more reasonable.



Romney is bash obama 24/7 and is offering far more rhetoric.


As a guy with a plan, I think Romney's less rhetoric than Perry. Perry has more rhetoric and no plan to show for it.



Maybe Perry just looks better because hes on the defensive. No one is asking him about what he'd do, its more about what he has done (both of those last talking points were incredibly reasonable to me)


Hmmm...perhaps. But what he's done isn't all that great either...

Also. -10000 points to Ron Paul for saying bring in Austrian economics. -_-
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 01:56:13
September 13 2011 01:55 GMT
#1572
I just have no faith in a large portion of the American electorate. I mean, the same people that booed Ron Paul for saying American foreign policy over the past decades might have just a little to do with terrorist attacks are the same people that are going to vote. These people are my neighbors.

Makes you wonder what would happen if voting day was on a weekend...

Anyways, Bachmann went down in flames, Paul lost major points on the terrorist question...Perry and Romney did very well for themselves, especially Perry's counterpoints and responses.
BrodiaQ
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States892 Posts
September 13 2011 01:57 GMT
#1573
Ron Paul has won me over ezpz. Perfect answer on foreign Policy. Disgusting crowd there, boos every time someone doesn't include the words freedom or liberty in their answer.

So far Ron Paul seems like the only Republican I would vote for. I liked Perry's responses this debate, particularly regarding the illegal immigrants and tuition, but I still don't trust him and am not big on creationism.
"So come right up and let me squash your creativity with my iron fist of conservative play."--Nony
Elegy
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States1629 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 02:01:20
September 13 2011 02:00 GMT
#1574
On September 13 2011 10:57 BrodiaQ wrote:
Disgusting crowd there, boos every time someone doesn't include the words freedom or liberty in their answer




Probably exactly how Ron Paul feels
Senorcuidado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States700 Posts
September 13 2011 02:01 GMT
#1575
On September 13 2011 10:55 Elegy wrote:
I just have no faith in a large portion of the American electorate. I mean, the same people that booed Ron Paul for saying American foreign policy over the past decades might have just a little to do with terrorist attacks are the same people that are going to vote. These people are my neighbors.

Makes you wonder what would happen if voting day was on a weekend...


I can't believe that it's even a conversation anymore. Candidates still get on stage and say "DURR THEY HATE US FOR OUR FREEDOM!" and they get applauded. The man telling the truth, that American foreign policy creates terrorists, gets boo'd. Somehow, people still can't grasp simple cause and effect, but I guess they don't like to be told the truth. It's been 10 years...
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 02:15:32
September 13 2011 02:14 GMT
#1576
That's what we're dealing with... Sorry, world.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
abominare
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1216 Posts
September 13 2011 02:15 GMT
#1577
On September 13 2011 10:21 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 10:20 Elegy wrote:
Ron Paul doesn't want to flat out say the guy should die.


It's not popular to say it, but he's absolutely right. People should bear their own risks.


I'm going to pick on you with a cool story bro.

My Fiance was diagnosed with cancer at 22. We absolutely lucked out because she worked for a school district and had health coverage. You know what one of those evil government jobs people rail against.

Even with the so called free coverage after deductibles and co pays that Romney was trolling out, it was still thousands of dollars a month. I make good money but it was still nearly crippling to handle that burden. At that age group youre still looking at hundreds of dollars a month for health care coverage on a single plan and when you consider the average income for that age group, you'd be going without a lot of food just to not die of a catastrophic illness.

You know what the worse part was? Having to live in fear not of dying from cancer but losing the insurance. District downsized three times during that period and we be up late at night not from the near crippling affects of radiation and chemo (all of during which she had to work to keep her insurance) but hoping she wouldn't be fired from no fault of her own. Yes I know she could still get cobra but in her situation it would have been several times what she had been making at that job just to get. Don't even get me started of the scares when the district changed health insurance suppliers.(Don't lecture me on insurance I'm more qualified than you to speak about it)

She couldn't quit, because of fear of losing coverage and because most non-government employers would have waived her coverage from their plans by either their admission or request from their provider. Stuck in a job battling a disease from no fault of her own living in fear. That's apparently the american dream now, and you know what watching those sick sons of bitches cheer about a 30 year dying because he couldn't afford(justify) insurance, really ticked me off tonight more than I think anything has before.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 13 2011 02:18 GMT
#1578
The most disturbing of this debate. The Audience.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26101 Posts
September 13 2011 02:21 GMT
#1579
As a European observer, how did everybody go down?

I'm not going to look at how the audience responded to the questions and responses, it was quite an unrepresentative Tea Party crowd wasn't it?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
September 13 2011 02:23 GMT
#1580
On September 13 2011 11:15 abominare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 10:21 xDaunt wrote:
On September 13 2011 10:20 Elegy wrote:
Ron Paul doesn't want to flat out say the guy should die.


It's not popular to say it, but he's absolutely right. People should bear their own risks.


I'm going to pick on you with a cool story bro.

My Fiance was diagnosed with cancer at 22. We absolutely lucked out because she worked for a school district and had health coverage. You know what one of those evil government jobs people rail against.

Even with the so called free coverage after deductibles and co pays that Romney was trolling out, it was still thousands of dollars a month. I make good money but it was still nearly crippling to handle that burden. At that age group youre still looking at hundreds of dollars a month for health care coverage on a single plan and when you consider the average income for that age group, you'd be going without a lot of food just to not die of a catastrophic illness.

You know what the worse part was? Having to live in fear not of dying from cancer but losing the insurance. District downsized three times during that period and we be up late at night not from the near crippling affects of radiation and chemo (all of during which she had to work to keep her insurance) but hoping she wouldn't be fired from no fault of her own. Yes I know she could still get cobra but in her situation it would have been several times what she had been making at that job just to get. Don't even get me started of the scares when the district changed health insurance suppliers.(Don't lecture me on insurance I'm more qualified than you to speak about it)

She couldn't quit, because of fear of losing coverage and because most non-government employers would have waived her coverage from their plans by either their admission or request from their provider. Stuck in a job battling a disease from no fault of her own living in fear. That's apparently the american dream now, and you know what watching those sick sons of bitches cheer about a 30 year dying because he couldn't afford(justify) insurance, really ticked me off tonight more than I think anything has before.


Look, everyone knows someone who faced something like this. My wife's best friend, whom I love dearly, came down with a horrible disease and has required constant and expensive care for over a decade now. She'd be absolutely screwed if she didn't have healthcare coverage. I get it. It sucks.

HOWEVER, to make sound national policy, you have to put the individual human aspect aside and think of what benefits the population as a whole.
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