Republican nominations - Page 54

On August 27 2011 02:11 ggrrg wrote:



I wonder how consistent Ron Paul would be if he were to be elected and congress/house block every proposal he ever makes.

On August 27 2011 07:42 ohnoitschrishansen wrote:
4 things that will absolutely earn my vote but no president will ever actually pull off.

1) Repeal the Patriot Act. Whether you love the "security" it provides or you are a terrorist sympathizer this is absolutely directly against the Bill of Rights.
2)Ending the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Oppressing a culture simply to prevent the possibility they are able to attack us on our own soil. They certainly need a working government and stabilizing the region to prevent possibly falling under Iran's control but at the cost, it is unsustainable.
3) End the Bush Tax cuts for the rich. Ridiculous how republicans are for increasing taxes and on the poor/middle classes.
4)Controlling our borders. Illegal immigration not only hurts our economy by taking away jobs from americans but hurts the immigrants themselves. From women being raped by the coyotes to workers rights and safe work conditions. The lack of documentation hurts them just as much as it hurts americans.

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Not as important but a big plus.
5) Legalize marijuana/hemp. Having grown/smoked it, I strongly disagree with how this plant is looked at.From drug smugglers and gangs making profit, if we legalized and controlled it, any farmer could turn a profit from it whether it is used to smoke or make textiles from.


So far Ron Paul is as close as it gets but I realize it takes more than a president to give me what I am looking for.

On August 27 2011 08:04 Arnstein wrote:
Republicans are assholes, none of them deserves any votes.

On August 27 2011 08:09 jdseemoreglass wrote:


Amen on all of these points. I don't give a damn about the politicians looks or religious beliefs or scientific beliefs, it's these types of policies that matter. Ron Paul is perhaps one of the few politicians in the country who would actually follow through with the principles he espouses instead of giving them lip service and then backpedaling.

I would say that I think simplifying our tax code and closing the many loopholes is actually better and more profitable than simply a higher tax rate on the rich.

On point I want to make regarding issues like evolution, etc... The politicians ACTUAL opinions don't matter, and they probably only rarely match up with what they espouse. When the politicians are campaigning in Iowa, which is more evangelical than most states, they will espouse evangelical positions. So people like Perry will give half-answers in attempt to have it both ways, ie. "I think both should be taught and the students should decide." Then when he gets to states like California he can say "I never said I believe in creationism."

Huntsman is not campaigning in Iowa, which is why he has little fear of coming out and stating he believes in evolution and global warming. He's simply using different tactics and going after different states. You guys gotta look at things from a strategic perspective like they do instead of freaking out and saying "OMG in Iowa they denied evolution!" They are politicians they will say whatever it takes to get votes.

On August 27 2011 08:15 Klaca wrote:

uhh how about stop the trouble alltogether?? Like instead of bicker about rich paying less taxes or taxes not progressive enough... how about fuckin abolish income tax????

0/0/0% tax bracket for everyone. fair to everyone no matter what style u prefer

and thatts what ron paul will do

On August 27 2011 08:18 FearTheReaperMan wrote:


BOOM! you nailed the coffin there. Not to mention that income tax is un-constitutional... .

On August 27 2011 08:20 Elegy wrote:


Sarcasm or no? I can't tell.

Because income tax is certainly constitutionally valid.

On August 17 2011 01:10 TheGlassface wrote:


And this is where the problem is.
It's your country, your future man.
Take some pride and vote. Learn about these people who may be deciding very important steps in your life.
Don't ask others for opinions to choose from, make an honest choice after deciding for yourself.
Hell, if you end up liking Bachmann...well, I respect your right to do so even.

On August 27 2011 08:09 jdseemoreglass wrote:


Amen on all of these points. I don't give a damn about the politicians looks or religious beliefs or scientific beliefs, it's these types of policies that matter. Ron Paul is perhaps one of the few politicians in the country who would actually follow through with the principles he espouses instead of giving them lip service and then backpedaling.

I would say that I think simplifying our tax code and closing the many loopholes is actually better and more profitable than simply a higher tax rate on the rich.

On point I want to make regarding issues like evolution, etc... The politicians ACTUAL opinions don't matter, and they probably only rarely match up with what they espouse. When the politicians are campaigning in Iowa, which is more evangelical than most states, they will espouse evangelical positions. So people like Perry will give half-answers in attempt to have it both ways, ie. "I think both should be taught and the students should decide." Then when he gets to states like California he can say "I never said I believe in creationism."

Huntsman is not campaigning in Iowa, which is why he has little fear of coming out and stating he believes in evolution and global warming. He's simply using different tactics and going after different states. You guys gotta look at things from a strategic perspective like they do instead of freaking out and saying "OMG in Iowa they denied evolution!" They are politicians they will say whatever it takes to get votes.

On August 27 2011 05:03 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
I can't understand how someone like Bachmann and Perry doesn't scare the hell out of my fellow TL'ers who live in the U.S. I mean Bachmann is batshit crazy and Perry is downright dangerous.

On August 27 2011 07:42 ohnoitschrishansen wrote:
4 things that will absolutely earn my vote but no president will ever actually pull off.

1) Repeal the Patriot Act. Whether you love the "security" it provides or you are a terrorist sympathizer this is absolutely directly against the Bill of Rights.
2)Ending the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Oppressing a culture simply to prevent the possibility they are able to attack us on our own soil. They certainly need a working government and stabilizing the region to prevent possibly falling under Iran's control but at the cost, it is unsustainable.
3) End the Bush Tax cuts for the rich. Ridiculous how republicans are for increasing taxes and on the poor/middle classes.
4)Controlling our borders. Illegal immigration not only hurts our economy by taking away jobs from americans but hurts the immigrants themselves. From women being raped by the coyotes to workers rights and safe work conditions. The lack of documentation hurts them just as much as it hurts americans.

---------
Not as important but a big plus.
5) Legalize marijuana/hemp. Having grown/smoked it, I strongly disagree with how this plant is looked at.From drug smugglers and gangs making profit, if we legalized and controlled it, any farmer could turn a profit from it whether it is used to smoke or make textiles from.


So far Ron Paul is as close as it gets but I realize it takes more than a president to give me what I am looking for.

On August 27 2011 08:12 FearTheReaperMan wrote:


Same with a lot of democrats. They are both wrong in many ways.

Bachman said the United States needs to tap into all of its energy resources no matter where they exist if it can be done responsibly.

"The United States needs to be less dependent on foreign sources of energy and more dependent upon American resourcefulness. Whether that is in the Everglades, or whether that is in the eastern Gulf region, or whether that's in North Dakota, we need to go where the energy is," she said. "Of course it needs to be done responsibly. If we can't responsibly access energy in the Everglades then we shouldn't do it."

In 2002, the federal government at the urging of President George W. Bush bought back oil and gas drilling rights in the Everglades for $120 million. Bachmann, who wants to get rid of the federal Environmental Protection Agency, said she would rely on experts to determine whether drilling can be done without harming the environment.