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Leave the animal rights and treatment discussion out of this topic. Thanks. -Nyovne
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17057 Posts
August 12 2011 08:12 GMT
#241
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.



Really? In general or in all cases?
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Kamais_Ookin
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada4218 Posts
August 12 2011 08:14 GMT
#242
On August 12 2011 17:11 kaisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Some Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.


Fixed.
ALL human lives are more precious man, even the dirtiest scum in arkham asylum is more important then that bear.
I <3 Plexa.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17057 Posts
August 12 2011 08:15 GMT
#243
Are you arguing that human life in all cases is more "valuable" than animal life?
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 08:17:49
August 12 2011 08:17 GMT
#244
On August 12 2011 17:14 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:11 kaisen wrote:
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Some Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.


Fixed.
ALL human lives are more precious man, even the dirtiest scum in arkham asylum is more important then that bear.


hah, that's actually the counterargument.

Or at least, one decent one.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Epithet
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States840 Posts
August 12 2011 08:17 GMT
#245
On August 12 2011 17:05 Giwoon wrote:
WHAT THE FUCK
is this real?
omg wtf china

Happens in Vietnam and South Korea too apparently. Your response should be omg wtf humankind and not just singling out China.
YellOw, Reach, & Nal_Ra Hwaiting!!
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
August 12 2011 08:18 GMT
#246
On August 12 2011 17:14 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:11 kaisen wrote:
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Some Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.


Fixed.
ALL human lives are more precious man, even the dirtiest scum in arkham asylum is more important then that bear.

And I call bullshit. Some people's live aren't even worth it compared to animals.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42393 Posts
August 12 2011 08:18 GMT
#247
On August 12 2011 17:14 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:11 kaisen wrote:
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Some Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.


Fixed.
ALL human lives are more precious man, even the dirtiest scum in arkham asylum is more important then that bear.


Just want to say that i disagree with you. I would easily 'trade' some scumbag molester or rapists life for animals life. I don't give a fuck about those who does horrible things to other human beings. i.e murder, rape and all that shit.

Yeah, might sound cold but that is how i think.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Rebel_lion
Profile Joined January 2009
United States271 Posts
August 12 2011 08:19 GMT
#248
All cases son. To consider another animal as greater than your species is paramount to mutiny.

There might be a connection between certain species and our own survival running congruently but as a general answer to your question.. yes. almost always. and its important.
Something witty here....
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 08:21:35
August 12 2011 08:19 GMT
#249
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.



I don't know, humans in permanent vegetative states are probably much less important than bears or even kittens.

You can't even eat them.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17057 Posts
August 12 2011 08:22 GMT
#250
On August 12 2011 17:19 Rebel_lion wrote:
All cases son. To consider another animal as greater than your species is paramount to mutiny.

There might be a connection between certain species and our own survival running congruently but as a general answer to your question.. yes. almost always. and its important.


There. Human life is not, in all cases, more "valuable" than animal life.

By the way, I think the question is stupid to begin with. What's the metric by which we're measuring value?
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GrimZeRo
Profile Joined January 2011
United States113 Posts
August 12 2011 08:22 GMT
#251
God humans have the potential to do such horrible, evil things.
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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 08:24:41
August 12 2011 08:23 GMT
#252
On August 12 2011 17:22 GrimZeRo wrote:
God humans have the potential to do such horrible, evil things.


At least we aren't jewel wasps.

Though, if we were jewel wasps, the relevant actions probably wouldn't be horrifying to us.
crappen
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1546 Posts
August 12 2011 08:24 GMT
#253
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
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On August 12 2011 17:06 Rorra wrote:
On August 12 2011 16:57 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I support the Chinese on this 110%

Who gives a fuck about animals feelings, only thing that's important is it's bile to make medicine for us humans. Also anyone who doesn't support this must be a vegetarian, please don't eat meat because farms are torture to animals as well your being unfair to the chickens and cows.


Oh I'm a vegetarian, and I definitely agree that there are plenty of hypocritical people arguing about this sort of thing to a certain degree.
However in the end it isn't as comparable as you think, Having a life of torture and dying from disease, or just pain etc is hardly the same as living alive in a field for a long time then being slaughtered. Sure as a vegetarian I disagree with both but they definitely don't fall under the same umbrella.


Come on man, you were trolled.

By the way.

Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.




Your name tells me you are trolling? Either way, I feel better valueing human beings along side animals. I kill annoying bugs, I fish etc, its not the killing that is mistreating animals, its when we are responsible for their entire lifes, that it would be better if we treated them with equal respect as humans.

So yes, I am saying, killing is perfectly fine, but treating them when they are alive should be of high quality.
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17057 Posts
August 12 2011 08:24 GMT
#254
On August 12 2011 17:22 GrimZeRo wrote:
God humans have the potential to do such horrible, evil things.


While this may be true, we're also perfectly capable of the opposite.
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Misanthrophic13
Profile Joined August 2011
Bahrain22 Posts
August 12 2011 08:26 GMT
#255
On August 12 2011 17:19 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.



I don't know, humans in permanent vegetative states are probably much less important than bears or even kittens.

You can't even eat them.


Chief killing Jack Nicholson's character.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073486/

Other higher-level thought processes of humans, such as self-awareness, rationality, and sapience, are considered to be defining features of what constitutes a "person."
The difference between satire and sarcasm is the difference between surgery and butchery. — Edward Nichols
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
August 12 2011 08:27 GMT
#256
Jesus christ...
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17057 Posts
August 12 2011 08:28 GMT
#257
On August 12 2011 17:26 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:19 acker wrote:
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.



I don't know, humans in permanent vegetative states are probably much less important than bears or even kittens.

You can't even eat them.


Chief killing Jack Nicholson's character.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0073486/

Other higher-level thought processes of humans, such as self-awareness, rationality, and sapience, are considered to be defining features of what constitutes a "person."


What about high-intelligence animals such as chimpanzees or bonobos? Certainly they're self-aware, rational, and sapient as well? Are they more "people" than a profoundly mentally retarded human?
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keeblur
Profile Joined April 2010
United States826 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 08:32:37
August 12 2011 08:28 GMT
#258
On August 12 2011 17:14 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:11 kaisen wrote:
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
By the way.

Some Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.


Fixed.
ALL human lives are more precious man, even the dirtiest scum in arkham asylum is more important then that bear.


I find the lives of some invertebrates and even microbes to be more precious to me than some humans. To me, they serve a greater purpose to the World than many humans do, because they are actually doing something intrinsically productive.
Isn't it ironic and selfish to say that God made man in his image, when God was made in man's image?
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
17057 Posts
August 12 2011 08:30 GMT
#259
Oh dear, now it's a philosophy discussion ._.

Anyway, I'm headed to sleep. It's 4:30 AM because I'm now back in the U.S. Fuck.
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Misanthrophic13
Profile Joined August 2011
Bahrain22 Posts
August 12 2011 08:31 GMT
#260
On August 12 2011 17:24 crappen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 17:10 Misanthrophic13 wrote:
On August 12 2011 17:06 Rorra wrote:
On August 12 2011 16:57 Kamais_Ookin wrote:
I support the Chinese on this 110%

Who gives a fuck about animals feelings, only thing that's important is it's bile to make medicine for us humans. Also anyone who doesn't support this must be a vegetarian, please don't eat meat because farms are torture to animals as well your being unfair to the chickens and cows.


Oh I'm a vegetarian, and I definitely agree that there are plenty of hypocritical people arguing about this sort of thing to a certain degree.
However in the end it isn't as comparable as you think, Having a life of torture and dying from disease, or just pain etc is hardly the same as living alive in a field for a long time then being slaughtered. Sure as a vegetarian I disagree with both but they definitely don't fall under the same umbrella.


Come on man, you were trolled.

By the way.

Human life is more precious than animal life, to say otherwise is lunacy.




Your name tells me you are trolling? Either way, I feel better valueing human beings along side animals. I kill annoying bugs, I fish etc, its not the killing that is mistreating animals, its when we are responsible for their entire lifes, that it would be better if we treated them with equal respect as humans.

So yes, I am saying, killing is perfectly fine, but treating them when they are alive should be of high quality.



Greed.
In China, the wholesale price of Bear Bile is around 4000 yuan (approximately $580) per kilogram.
I have a pet dog who has been in the family for 7 years, god forbid, if my family had run out of resources, I would not hesitate to kill him to feed my family. Call me callous.
The difference between satire and sarcasm is the difference between surgery and butchery. — Edward Nichols
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