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On August 03 2011 21:38 Svetz wrote:
Confirmed Hoax

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878
TheToaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 05:37:12
August 03 2011 05:36 GMT
#281
Correlation does not justify causation. A simple statistical axiom. Just because IQ and browser choice has a correlation, that doesn't justify whether or not there is a cause and effect relationship occurring.
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Tektos
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1321 Posts
August 03 2011 05:48 GMT
#282
On August 03 2011 14:36 TheToaster wrote:
Correlation does not justify causation. A simple statistical axiom. Just because IQ and browser choice has a correlation, that doesn't justify whether or not there is a cause and effect relationship occurring.


Read the thread wtf... it has been said 500 times that correlation =/= causation. Nobody is claiming causation.
ICarrotU
Profile Joined February 2011
United States254 Posts
August 03 2011 05:53 GMT
#283
I'd say that the general population has a low IQ, thus whichever browser has the most users will most likely be the one with the 'dumbest' users.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 06:04:09
August 03 2011 05:57 GMT
#284
This has probably been posted on some other page, but personally, I think the second figure in the report is a lot more interesting:

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There's still people with IQs of 150+ using IE 8 (and 7), so there goes the whole "the study says only stupid people use IE" thing that seems to be being waved around.

It is interesting, though, that IE 6 usage drops to zero at high percentiles, and both opera and IE. w/ chrome are completely nonexistent at low percentiles.

It also says a little about the big ones like firefox and chrome, that kind of sit in no-man's land on the other chart. More than 40% of the top percentile share is firefox. It's also surprisingly convincing that there's clear upward and downward trends. On a personal note, safari dipping hard at high percentiles also makes me smile.

tl;dr: It's a pretty silly study, done as a marketing stunt, but no matter how un-scientifically they executed it, they still got data from 100k people, and that data turns out to be kind of interesting. The OP also shows the less useful graph, imo.

Cr4zyH0r5e
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Peru1308 Posts
August 03 2011 06:29 GMT
#285
Funny. The study is really silly and sweeps a lot of facts under the rug; this considering that among non-college students IE is more widely used, also the fact that they included older versions, which means they're including people who did not even bother to update their web browser (microsoft bugs you to do it all the time) and thus are neither tech savvy, nor people who could measure up to the standard set by the study as the final statistics are only relative to the entries of the 100k people.

BTW. The Title is highly inflamatory and uncalled for. This looks like anti-IE propaganda:

OH Look! New study says on average IE users' cognitive ability is lower. --tranaslates into--> "Only dumb people use IE"

lol.
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Yew
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States940 Posts
August 03 2011 06:36 GMT
#286
I use chrome but I have used internet explorer and have had no problems at all with it, why does it get such a bad rap? Security problems?
Lokian
Profile Joined March 2010
United States699 Posts
August 03 2011 06:38 GMT
#287
even if this is true, it just means the IE9 is more widely used by the non-enthusiast that don't really care about IQ whatnot.
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Simplistik
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
2173 Posts
August 03 2011 06:39 GMT
#288
Did they actually do a proper test to see if the means are actually significantly different? Did they include the variance? The graph alone is certainly no proof of significance.

And I'm not even using internet explorer...
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Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
August 03 2011 06:46 GMT
#289
Yes, but not because I seriously believe that IQ directly correlates with which browser you use.
Svetz
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia311 Posts
August 03 2011 12:38 GMT
#290
Confirmed Hoax

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878
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domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 17:02:09
August 03 2011 17:01 GMT
#291
Confirmed: Non-IE users are gullible.
DrBoo
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1177 Posts
August 03 2011 18:07 GMT
#292
On August 03 2011 21:38 Svetz wrote:
Confirmed Hoax

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878


Damn I just came to link that article but you've already beat me to it. I bet you're not using IE...haha... no it was just a hoax
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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
August 03 2011 18:38 GMT
#293
The original article claims would correlate Web browser speed with user intelligence. In fact in terms of ranking it would be a perfect match: Opera - Chrome - Firefox - IE is the exact order in both browser speed and the claimed intelligence. Perhaps a kernel of truth in the story, despite dubious follow up by bbc.
Aah thats the stuff..
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
August 03 2011 19:04 GMT
#294
Given microsoft has been caught with it's pants down lying about IE's performance and it's competitors dozens of times in the last few years. How can you be sure that this hoax revelation isn't yet another PR stunt?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
August 03 2011 19:06 GMT
#295
Well, now we know what browser those BBC people use.
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bunnymuncher
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada112 Posts
August 03 2011 19:18 GMT
#296
brb downloading opera
PopeTimusPrime
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States36 Posts
August 03 2011 21:30 GMT
#297
A correction has been published. Please update the OP.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14370878?correction=bananas&whoactuallyreadsthequerystringcomeon
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 22:18:31
August 03 2011 22:14 GMT
#298
On August 04 2011 04:04 VIB wrote:
Given microsoft has been caught with it's pants down lying about IE's performance and it's competitors dozens of times in the last few years. How can you be sure that this hoax revelation isn't yet another PR stunt?

They dont lie they mislead it's common practice to mis lead people with benchmarks and saying like 4times fast or 10 times faster to something but only in a very specialized area, teach products do that all the time, it's almost 2nd nature to amd and nvidia.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/TECH/web/08/03/explorer.report.faked/index.html

Anyways any online IQ test is a loaded gun to showing that it's not valid, the only valid approach would be to take random people from various locations give them an IQ test then ask them a series of question about what they use, putting what browser do they normally use as part of that pool of questions. Ofc most times all you can pull in is college sophomores so kind of ruins the data.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 03 2011 22:16 GMT
#299
Haha nice prank, it isn't iq I don't think it's just people who use computers more will obviously use better browsers. Not that much of a surprise.
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