The Letting Off Steam Thread - Page 245

So I wrote a rant a couple days ago, and then deleted the whole thing after realizing how bad it sounded. The reason was that I was talking about a very sensitive subject. I cooled off, and then the next day, went into the US Politics thread and re-wrote what I was going to say in a much more collected tone.

Of course, Kwark re-worded what I said and then made an argument against a strawman, and I started writing back to him before deleting that post before posting and making the decision not to engage in a debate. There was no need to debate. I found myself just re-typing a lot of stuff like "I think nazism is bad", then thinking to myself, "If the initial post requires further explanation, then I'll give an explanation if asked." It was re-assuring that a couple of people actually thanked me for posting what I did, because they had been trying to articulate the same kind of idea, but were too emotionally engaged to make it not seem angry as fuck. To be honest, my initial post in the Letting Off Steam Thread was way too emotional, because I just got done reading a bunch of bullshit and was having a bad day in general. I want to touch on a couple of things:

1. People parroting fucking talking points.

I actually got invited to a nice dinner recently with fancy cheese, wine, etc., with rich normies. Politics came up, and I was surprised that one guy was a Trump supporter, because a lot of rich people around here are fucking socialist supporters. So he's just repeating a bunch of sound-bytes and talking points that I've heard a million times. That man was Albert Einstein. This is not uncommon when my friends and family discuss politics. This is not uncommon when people on the internet discuss politics. They just repeat a bunch of bullshit they heard like "Social Security is just a big Ponzi scheme". You know how many times I've heard that exact line? 37. Yet, somehow, the US government is able to provide liquidity to participants in a program that is supposedly broke. How's that possible? Because tax dollars go to payments on the interest for the national debt, and the actual budget comes from borrowing money from the Federal Reserve. Understanding this basic fact would help a lot of people to PULL THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR OWN ANUS-HOLES.

In academia, they must be really pushing some crap, because every progressive liberal coming out of that hellhole repeats these phrases like clockwork: "white privilege", "systemic oppression", "hate speech is not free speech", "internalized oppression", "microaggressions", "cisnormative bias", "cultural appropriation", "racism equals prejudice plus power", "social construct". And more. Yayyy.

These have become leftist talking points, and each one is arguably a flawed premise. So when I'm having a discussion with someone, and they tell me that I have "internalized oppression" that I need to work out, it sort of takes the wind out of my sails, because I thought we were having a discussion as reasonable adults, but noooooooooooo, you have to tell me what I'm subliminally thinking and that I secretly hate myself, and that's the reason behind my argument. How do I disprove that to someone who's convinced of it? I can't. I have to go and attempt to completely dismantle that idea before moving forward, and by that time, we're so off-track that we're not even talking about the original topic anymore.

This is one of the reasons I chose not engage in a debate in the thread, because Kwark's response was a blatant misrepresentation of what I actually said, laced with leftist buzzwords and phrases.


2. The leftist response

If it appears that I'm being overly-critical of the left, keep in mind that I have been very vocal about my disagreements with the right, and the Republican Party will always have a special place in my heart for endless ridicule. HOWEVER... the response from the left has consistently been "If you don't agree with us, then you are a LITERAL NAZI". "Oh, but right-wing people don't pull the same shit?" you ask, Mr. Strawman? Yeah. That's the problem with you fucking people. Whenever I bring up a flaw in an argument being made by an individual subscribing to a particular ideology, they always go "Yeah, we did this, but what about this stuff that the other end of the political spectrum did? Huh? What about that? Huh? Well? You gonna criticize that? You're criticizing us, but are you gonna criticize that stuff? Are you?" Which is why I have to preface every discussion about political violence with "I hope every white supremacist gets ebola, but I'm going to put that aside for a second to talk about Antifa..." and then get hit with "SO YOU THINK ANTIFA IS WORSE THAN LITERAL NAZIS!?"

Contrary to what you see in popular cinema, Nazis do not have time travel machines or cryo-sleep chambers, so the only "literal" Nazis are old as fuck and are probably shitting in a bedpan somewhere. Regardless of what Neo-Nazis have done, regardless of all their hate-speech, regardless of their antisemitism, it will never ever give Antifa, or any other group, the right to physically assault them openly. Antifa are a bunch of scumbags and should be ashamed of themselves. People always go "The KKK are a bunch of cowards who won't show their faces", while Antifa are wearing their black scarves around their faces like gang members.









These are pictures of the Antifa, who group together and physically assault people they disagree with politically, which extends to political moderates and libertarians. This is a group of domestic terrorists that are funded through political action committees, and as they push the boundaries of what they can get away with, they will become more emboldened to commit greater and greater acts of violence, and are demanding further violence after Charlottesville. I don't believe that they intend to let Heather Heyer's death go unpunished, and when it happens, the media will have blood on their hands for failing to condemn Antifa. Will this lead to a peaceful conclusion? In the long run, yes, but because the police and military are going to have to march in to stop this. Antifa and white nationalists keep pushing and shoving each other, and it's really just a matter of time before they begin getting a lot more aggressive with each other.

"So shouldn't we focus on stopping violence from literal nazis?"

JESUS CHRIST. WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU?

And I wish you the best. I would only ask that you not resort to political violence if at all possible.

I feel like nina is missing the forest for the trees. People in the US poli thread have no problem condemning antifa or whatever that is. And they condemn mostly all acts of violence no matter who it originates from. That thread was specifically talking about nazis. You can't co-opt that and bring in antifa. That's not the topic of conversation. Focus on what was being discussed and if someone brings it up, then it should be imperative that you get the conversation back on track.
I don't want to talk about trade policies when we're discussing systemic racism/oppression in america. That's a topic for another day. That simple.

Bitch and moan all you want. You and xD and the others who try to muddy the issue being discussed are the problem with having an open and honest fucking debate. Focus on the fucking topic we are discussing and stop trying to take it somewhere else. When you bring up the 14 points and say it's not white supremacy or that antifa deserves the same credit of condemnation as nazis, you're guilty of hijacking the thread to get away from a topic you're not comfortable discussing. If you don't like the topic being discussed, stay the fuck out of it.

I removed myself from talking about military veterans and benefits and how that would help ease some of the problems.
I also haven't weighed in on the topic currently being discussed about race and systemic oppression. I have first hand experience with both of those topics and it makes no sense to allow my emotions to get in the way. I won't change their minds and if people haven't served in the military or have had 3 generations of your family toe the poverty line seemingly your entire life, then you have no leg to stand on in the conversation. But the pseudo-fucking-intellectuals in that thread will have you fucking believe they have the answers to everything and ask roundabout questions without getting anywhere.

tl;dr don't be so sensitive to the bullshit being espoused in that thread ninazerg.

weakness!
WEAKNESS!
Humanity. That raises stupidity by choice.
Internet. Which could be the most influential technology so far.
But instead its summed up pretty precisley as porn and "twitchchat".
Me. Being a part of that. Dont standing apart.
Weakness.

I fucking despise adepts. Fuck whoever thought they were a good idea. I haven't even played sc2 today but after seeing the patch changes which will probably make me quit the game anyway after blizzcon i just wanted to come here and say once more. Fuck Adepts.

I will address this in the politics thread.

Thank you and responded.

I just can't do it. I can't. I'd ask to be banned, but I enjoy other faucets of the forum. The US poli thread is surreal.
I'm glad the civil rights era was done. I'm sure my black ass would be dead walking down the streets because I peacefully assembled with other gun carrying, riot shield wearing blacks. Even if we didn't do anything violently and just wanted to be heard. Our 1st and 2nd amendment rights would not have mattered and would not have mattered if any of the roles were reversed saturday. Amazing. Simply amazing.

Being so fucking bad at games is really really getting to me. I have over 600 hours into Overwatch at this point and I'm a solidly below average player still. I don't get how it's even possible to be this consistently shit at it, and it's depressing.

The amount of times I have been playing overwatch and have though "I should kill myself I'm so bad" is a bit insane. I've been stuck in the same shitty mmr bracket since the very first season and haven't improved an inch.