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gLyo
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States2410 Posts
February 02 2005 10:46 GMT
#121
People who make the USA look bad/stupid are our biggest problem; there are just to many of them!
http://benisonline.com
Oxygen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada3581 Posts
February 02 2005 11:04 GMT
#122
On February 02 2005 17:24 Liquid`Drone wrote:
life isn't supposed to be work.
more vacations than work would be a really good thing, of course it's not true though. but that would be truly awesome.


180 days of school
185 days off :D
Dont drink and derive. TSL: Made with Balls.
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
February 02 2005 11:08 GMT
#123
i wonder what percent of teamliquid is from USA/CANADA. i think most. then korea.. then sweden ? I dont know. just thought about it looking at all the different countries. Any one know this ?
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
IronMentality
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1129 Posts
February 02 2005 11:45 GMT
#124
On February 02 2005 18:10 MrIncognito wrote:
Show nested quote +
I just want to point out that the Chicago school systems have the most money put into them in Illinois, and are also the WORST schools in Illinois. You seriously can't go into a worse school system.


CPS still doesn't pay their teachers anything, and they still don't have textbooks, etc. Daley must have a bunch of his cousins on the payroll or something.

You're wrong about spending levels, too. Cook County spends a little less than $6k per student per year. Most of the suburbs spend significantly more. Here's what some other Illinois schools are spending:

Deerfield/Highland Park $17,991
Lake Forest $15,218
NewTrier $14,160
Glenbrrok North/South $13,832
Libertyville $12,867
District 214 $12,819
Mundelein $11,892
Stevenson $11,162

This leads in beautifully to my post about the WORST part of the US.

Everyone here is so fucking sure their opinions are right, there's no need to get any facts. You walk around talking to people, and they're either brainwashed by Limbaugh to think that schools are overfunded and inefficient, or some idiot liberal who tells you how many students just one stealth bomber could put through school, or that racism holds all those poor black kids back.

Our education system sucks. Noone thinks for themselves. People all come out behaving like sheep - they hear somethign once somewhere and accept it as a fact of life as if some old crazy bearded guy stumbled off a mountain with their opinions carved in stone by God.

Look at our elections, but from a new persepctive. Instead of blaming the politicians, look at it like this: They are doing whatever they think is best to win votes. What kind of people would be swayed one way or the other by the political ads, debates, etc.? Fucking morons, that's who.

We have a country of completely inadequately educated yet supremely self confident people. Stupidity, power, and American-style "God's on our side so who the hell's on yours?" attitudes is an ugly combination.

And people in the midwest are horribly overweight. Whoever was complaining about German girls, please don't. I will trade you the women in Michigan for the women in Germany any day.


In Naperville, one of the richest areas in DuPage County, also one of the richest counties in the U.S., I believe my district spends roughly around $7000-$8000 per student. We also have some of the highest test scores in the nation, not to mention in the top of the State for all grades K to 12.

More money doesn't mean better.
Efficient use of money means better.

Just because you throw money at something doesn't mean it's going to grow and blossom... results matter, not how much money you are spending on something.
Liberals idea of true patriotism is expanding the welfare state. Want to make a liberal angry? Defend the United States. Proud to be an American! Made in the USA, est. 1986.
IronMentality
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1129 Posts
February 02 2005 11:48 GMT
#125
I flipping hate tax and spend Liberals who want to raise taxes on everyone to pay for health care for the already middle class and rich people.

I hate Liberal people who think Ronald Reagan was an idiot when the Middle Class had the most wealth, and more people climbed from poor to middle class and wealthier income brackets then during any other adminstration in U.S. history.

Bill Clinton was a horrible President because he did jack shit after the 1993 WTC Bombing in our country that was meant to be a 9/11, 3 embassies lost overseas, had multiple chances to take out Osama and the Al-Qaeda network while it was still developing and did nothing for fear of 'hitting a mosque,' in particular after we accidentally hit a Chinese embassay. Same goes for how our air traffic security system was structured, we still only allow 2 Arab people to be searched before entering the plane, because Liberals don't want to be racist despite roughly 99.9% of the people trying to kill American interests are Islamic Extremists.

I hate people who say the American economy is the worst since the Great Depression when unemployment is roughly 5.4%, and anything around 5% is considered full employment of the population.

I hate how our tax system has been structured since under JFK that allowed outsourcing companies to start up in 1992 from a former General Electric Executive to start taking American manufacturing jobs for everything from textiles to microprocessing, to aerospace boards, to now even automobiles and airplanes.

90% of what was made in the U.S. was consumed by Americans in 1995, since NAFTA it's dropped to 75%.

I hate how President Bush spent way too much money, we need to be more fiscally conservative to the ideals of Ronald Reagan who left a $550M surplus as a two-term governor of California, the largest state in the U.S. in the 70s. Cutting taxes during wartime is fine, but we didn't have to spend so much on ridiculous BS.

What's even worse is the pork barrel spending. What, $20B a year is wasted for congressmen helping there consitutents? Maybe this could be used to give health care to all the uninsured Americans with low cost drugs, not making a park look nicer.

No Federal Education Standards, while America has the finest educational Colleges on the face of the Earth, our High School students and younger aren't learning the proper material and are far behind the rest of the world.

I don't like how America won't add Poland to it's special VISA program, as Poland has been a staunch ally of the U.S. -- and would've been I think the only country in Europe to re-elect President Bush if they had a say in the election last Nov. (I'm also 90% Polish and my great grandfather nearly died getting to the U.S. from there)

I hate how people say we should reduce defense spending, or say the U.S. is purely an imperialistic country...

We helped stop advancement of imperalism in World War 1. In World War 2 we freed Europe from fascism. We then gave out the Marshall Plan and took Europe from poverty to prosperity. We also freed more in Europe under the evil grasp of Communism from the Soviet Union... I don't know any other country before in the past willingly gave money to a country as Japan and helped build it into one of the largest economic powers after it was destroyed...

God damn, if we wanted oil we could just forcefully take it or drill it ourselves...

I'd love to drill for our own oil in Alaska but liberals/Democrats won't let it happen. (hopefully it does now)

Oh, I'd also like to build a Oil Refinery for once in the United States. Oil a barrel should be $35 not upwards to $50 but a Oil Refinery hasn't been built in the U.S. since 1976 (start of the Carter adminstration). Then maybe our airline industry will be profitable again. I hate Democrats for not allowing this to happen.

I hate how we don't offer more tax breaks or subsidize more research into Hybrid Cars/Hydrogen Fuel Cells. We shouldn't be dependent on other people for our energy and the environment should be cleaner. Let American companies flippin do research to make the world more clean from fossil fuels. There the best to do the task...

Oh well, that's just a rough put together of things.
Liberals idea of true patriotism is expanding the welfare state. Want to make a liberal angry? Defend the United States. Proud to be an American! Made in the USA, est. 1986.
IronMentality
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1129 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-02 11:50:04
February 02 2005 11:49 GMT
#126
On February 02 2005 14:02 WhizKid77 wrote:
americans consume too much. waste too much - food, supplies, energy (gas guzzling SUVs). things get thrown away too often, and people buy new things instead of repairing broken ones. entertainment industry too overpaid, (read: hollywood/sports/music). needs to be more socialist. needs to value education more. americans kinda lazy, but for some reason leads in many technology sectors. i suppose as in any country, the range of types of people is really wide, so things can't really be generalized.


It's also cheaper to buy new things then to get them replaced. Ever hear of the Throwaway Society? It's been that way here since the 1920s. Yeah, socialism, that works [eye roll eye roll puke]. You've of all people being in China should be thankful Western capital has rolled into your country. You think being socialist you'd have a $1.7 Trillion Dollar economy with 250 million people out of poverty?
Liberals idea of true patriotism is expanding the welfare state. Want to make a liberal angry? Defend the United States. Proud to be an American! Made in the USA, est. 1986.
YNi-Soul
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia323 Posts
February 02 2005 11:56 GMT
#127
Too many wogs.
FrEaK[S.sIR]
Profile Joined October 2002
2373 Posts
February 02 2005 11:59 GMT
#128
On February 02 2005 13:55 SCFraser wrote:

theres no tropical part of canada



Okanagan valley is pretty close to it.
Kimmural
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1111 Posts
February 02 2005 12:00 GMT
#129
On February 02 2005 20:59 FrEaK[S.sIR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 13:55 SCFraser wrote:

theres no tropical part of canada



Okanagan valley is pretty close to it.


I second that
Just saying "no" prevents teenage pragnancy the way "have a nice day" cues chronic depression
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
February 02 2005 12:00 GMT
#130
I've got a class FULL of students that NCLB left in the DUST
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
February 02 2005 12:25 GMT
#131
On February 02 2005 20:48 IronMentality wrote:
I flipping hate tax and spend Liberals who want to raise taxes on everyone to pay for health care for the already middle class and rich people.

I hate Liberal people who think Ronald Reagan was an idiot when the Middle Class had the most wealth, and more people climbed from poor to middle class and wealthier income brackets then during any other adminstration in U.S. history.

Bill Clinton was a horrible President because he did jack shit after the 1993 WTC Bombing in our country that was meant to be a 9/11, 3 embassies lost overseas, had multiple chances to take out Osama and the Al-Qaeda network while it was still developing and did nothing for fear of 'hitting a mosque,' in particular after we accidentally hit a Chinese embassay. Same goes for how our air traffic security system was structured, we still only allow 2 Arab people to be searched before entering the plane, because Liberals don't want to be racist despite roughly 99.9% of the people trying to kill American interests are Islamic Extremists.

I hate people who say the American economy is the worst since the Great Depression when unemployment is roughly 5.4%, and anything around 5% is considered full employment of the population.

I hate how our tax system has been structured since under JFK that allowed outsourcing companies to start up in 1992 from a former General Electric Executive to start taking American manufacturing jobs for everything from textiles to microprocessing, to aerospace boards, to now even automobiles and airplanes.

90% of what was made in the U.S. was consumed by Americans in 1995, since NAFTA it's dropped to 75%.

I hate how President Bush spent way too much money, we need to be more fiscally conservative to the ideals of Ronald Reagan who left a $550M surplus as a two-term governor of California, the largest state in the U.S. in the 70s. Cutting taxes during wartime is fine, but we didn't have to spend so much on ridiculous BS.

What's even worse is the pork barrel spending. What, $20B a year is wasted for congressmen helping there consitutents? Maybe this could be used to give health care to all the uninsured Americans with low cost drugs, not making a park look nicer.

No Federal Education Standards, while America has the finest educational Colleges on the face of the Earth, our High School students and younger aren't learning the proper material and are far behind the rest of the world.

I don't like how America won't add Poland to it's special VISA program, as Poland has been a staunch ally of the U.S. -- and would've been I think the only country in Europe to re-elect President Bush if they had a say in the election last Nov. (I'm also 90% Polish and my great grandfather nearly died getting to the U.S. from there)

I hate how people say we should reduce defense spending, or say the U.S. is purely an imperialistic country...

We helped stop advancement of imperalism in World War 1. In World War 2 we freed Europe from fascism. We then gave out the Marshall Plan and took Europe from poverty to prosperity. We also freed more in Europe under the evil grasp of Communism from the Soviet Union... I don't know any other country before in the past willingly gave money to a country as Japan and helped build it into one of the largest economic powers after it was destroyed...

God damn, if we wanted oil we could just forcefully take it or drill it ourselves...

I'd love to drill for our own oil in Alaska but liberals/Democrats won't let it happen. (hopefully it does now)

Oh, I'd also like to build a Oil Refinery for once in the United States. Oil a barrel should be $35 not upwards to $50 but a Oil Refinery hasn't been built in the U.S. since 1976 (start of the Carter adminstration). Then maybe our airline industry will be profitable again. I hate Democrats for not allowing this to happen.

I hate how we don't offer more tax breaks or subsidize more research into Hybrid Cars/Hydrogen Fuel Cells. We shouldn't be dependent on other people for our energy and the environment should be cleaner. Let American companies flippin do research to make the world more clean from fossil fuels. There the best to do the task...

Oh well, that's just a rough put together of things.


Apart from the rather vulgar taste in categorizing people and expressing no shortage of hatred for various such categories, there are several faults in your claims:

1) Reagan's fiscal conservatism really can't be substantiated in his presidency. Both national spending and deficit increased radically during his presidency.
2) The First World War had almost nothing to do with Imperialism, nor did it stop imperialism.
3) Although the contributions of the United States in WW2 fundamentally affected the post-war geopolitical conditions, "freeing" Europe from "fascism" is rather characteristic of the imbecile political categories which have unfortunately been the dominant trend of American nationalistic thinking in recent times.
4) The United States had nearly nothing to do with "freeing" Europe from "communism", which was largely accomplished by the voluntary Soviet withdraw from Europe, but did much to contribute to the causes of the cold war in the beginning.
5) Your use of historical examples are selective and dishonest at best, rather representative of a kind of idealism-cum-nationalism which has plagued the country for a century.

There's not too much else I can disagree with in your post, apart from rather obvious exaggerated claims such as "people who say the American economy is the worst since the Great Depression when unemployment is roughly 5.4%, and anything around 5% is considered full employment of the population."


Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
February 02 2005 12:29 GMT
#132
On February 02 2005 20:04 Oxygen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 17:24 Liquid`Drone wrote:
life isn't supposed to be work.
more vacations than work would be a really good thing, of course it's not true though. but that would be truly awesome.


180 days of school
185 days off :D


Just wait until you get in 20'S, when you go out of school. I read a document of my former summer job, a restaurant, it's like :

-begin 6us/hour, can get to 10 us/hour with 5 year work, cannot go higher
-Minimal of 32 hour a week
-No vacation on holidays ( christmas, any national day)
-1 week of paid vacation//year, can get 4 week after 15 years of work, cannot go higher.

The sad thing is that most of the people work like this. It's so depressing and I think it's what sucks about my country

Oh and something suck about the world in general : people are mostly selfish and doesn't give a shit but to themself.
And those idiot make stupid statement that make a country look stupid ( mostly US idiot I hear from, it give a shitty image of US).

Oh , final note, our provincial governent is sooooo weak ( quebec).

Oh one guy was mentionning something like this :
''I hate french canadian, once this french guy wouldn't let me pass, therefore all quebecers are idiot and bad.'' ............... that sad....
Izenra
Profile Joined October 2004
Canada679 Posts
February 02 2005 12:32 GMT
#133
On February 02 2005 20:49 IronMentality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 14:02 WhizKid77 wrote:
americans consume too much. waste too much - food, supplies, energy (gas guzzling SUVs). things get thrown away too often, and people buy new things instead of repairing broken ones. entertainment industry too overpaid, (read: hollywood/sports/music). needs to be more socialist. needs to value education more. americans kinda lazy, but for some reason leads in many technology sectors. i suppose as in any country, the range of types of people is really wide, so things can't really be generalized.


It's also cheaper to buy new things then to get them replaced. Ever hear of the Throwaway Society? It's been that way here since the 1920s. Yeah, socialism, that works [eye roll eye roll puke]. You've of all people being in China should be thankful Western capital has rolled into your country. You think being socialist you'd have a $1.7 Trillion Dollar economy with 250 million people out of poverty?


Socialism is the ideal political stance as for its theory, but again it's corrupted. Oh, every polical party is corrupted. No one is better than any other. Some hide it better though.
HazeyHaze
Profile Joined January 2005
American Samoa40 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-02 12:38:34
February 02 2005 12:35 GMT
#134
America has the best of the best and the worst of the worst.the county itself is a revolutionary idea.Diversity is everywhere,I honestly cant find enything to hate about my country other than military spending and schoole funding.but hey,there are great jobs in th U.S and you cant say that about every country.are lowest low's are far from other countries and their history.We mite be a lil BM but so what? we do it with a swagger and smile and go on with are buisness.Germany seems depressed they always have seemed depressed,france is bm but they sound like sissies when they try to put U.S down.north korea selling nukes,germany spying on us,china spying on us,Isreal spying on us,germany riging ukraine elections and its obviose.BUT LOOK AT US
MoltkeWarding
Profile Joined November 2003
5195 Posts
February 02 2005 12:38 GMT
#135
On February 02 2005 21:32 Izenra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 20:49 IronMentality wrote:
On February 02 2005 14:02 WhizKid77 wrote:
americans consume too much. waste too much - food, supplies, energy (gas guzzling SUVs). things get thrown away too often, and people buy new things instead of repairing broken ones. entertainment industry too overpaid, (read: hollywood/sports/music). needs to be more socialist. needs to value education more. americans kinda lazy, but for some reason leads in many technology sectors. i suppose as in any country, the range of types of people is really wide, so things can't really be generalized.


It's also cheaper to buy new things then to get them replaced. Ever hear of the Throwaway Society? It's been that way here since the 1920s. Yeah, socialism, that works [eye roll eye roll puke]. You've of all people being in China should be thankful Western capital has rolled into your country. You think being socialist you'd have a $1.7 Trillion Dollar economy with 250 million people out of poverty?


Socialism is the ideal political stance as for its theory, but again it's corrupted. Oh, every polical party is corrupted. No one is better than any other. Some hide it better though.


Just what on earth do you mean by socialism? To a great extent every country on earth is a "socialist" welfare state governed by a corporate (in the old fashioned sense of the term) bureaucracy.

Marxism on the other hand is an ignorant and stupid philosophy of history

Despite their revolutionary propaganda, very few so-called communist states have been marxist. At best, their economic structures were inherited from earlier cultural prototypes.
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
February 02 2005 13:23 GMT
#136
racist people - america
gangs are tight btw

too many bikes- vietnam
probably racit people but i dont member much
troi oi thang map nai!!!
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
February 02 2005 13:26 GMT
#137
Fat hamburger-eating Americans.
YNi-Soul
Profile Joined June 2003
Australia323 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-02 13:43:30
February 02 2005 13:42 GMT
#138
dsh
Profile Joined June 2004
United States879 Posts
February 02 2005 13:47 GMT
#139
china - cheap, too many fucking forger, corrupted, alot of stupid morons, alot of jack asses, alot of selfish bitches, dirty, fill with morons, don't crack down on forgers, alot of powerful mafias, too many criminals, lack traditional moral values, won't build houses on buildings, lack understanding of protecting the enviroment, fill with bunch of fuckers who destory the enviroment for their own selfish deeds...etc


America - low voter turn out, general population are uninformed, selfish bitches, alot of senators in california (where i am) are fucking stupid selfish son of bitches, senators in us senate are fucking gayass morons (especially for taking money away from social secrity), out dated taxes system (fucking propsitions), under rated school systems, terrible school system (k-12), not enough hot asian girls in my area...etc
OhThatDang
Profile Joined August 2004
United States4685 Posts
February 02 2005 13:52 GMT
#140
On February 02 2005 22:26 Rayzorblade wrote:
Fat hamburger-eating Americans.


we got fries too ok? and a supersize coke fool
troi oi thang map nai!!!
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