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x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
February 02 2005 14:04 GMT
#141
On February 02 2005 20:56 YNi-Soul wrote:
Too many wogs.


haha it's true
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
February 02 2005 14:06 GMT
#142
whats a wog?
Im back, in pog form!
x2fst
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-02 14:15:47
February 02 2005 14:08 GMT
#143
person of mederteranian (mostly italian, greek, turkish) decent

what is a wog?
muda, is a crime for me to wear a shirt, cos I is so good lookin
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 02 2005 14:42 GMT
#144
What the fuck is so great about Baseball?!
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LetMeBeWithYou
Profile Joined August 2004
Canada4254 Posts
February 02 2005 16:16 GMT
#145
On February 02 2005 23:42 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
What the fuck is so great about Baseball?!


Nothing it sucks
All Those beneath an angry star
IronMentality
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1129 Posts
February 02 2005 16:19 GMT
#146
On February 02 2005 21:25 MoltkeWarding wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2005 20:48 IronMentality wrote:
I flipping hate tax and spend Liberals who want to raise taxes on everyone to pay for health care for the already middle class and rich people.

I hate Liberal people who think Ronald Reagan was an idiot when the Middle Class had the most wealth, and more people climbed from poor to middle class and wealthier income brackets then during any other adminstration in U.S. history.

Bill Clinton was a horrible President because he did jack shit after the 1993 WTC Bombing in our country that was meant to be a 9/11, 3 embassies lost overseas, had multiple chances to take out Osama and the Al-Qaeda network while it was still developing and did nothing for fear of 'hitting a mosque,' in particular after we accidentally hit a Chinese embassay. Same goes for how our air traffic security system was structured, we still only allow 2 Arab people to be searched before entering the plane, because Liberals don't want to be racist despite roughly 99.9% of the people trying to kill American interests are Islamic Extremists.

I hate people who say the American economy is the worst since the Great Depression when unemployment is roughly 5.4%, and anything around 5% is considered full employment of the population.

I hate how our tax system has been structured since under JFK that allowed outsourcing companies to start up in 1992 from a former General Electric Executive to start taking American manufacturing jobs for everything from textiles to microprocessing, to aerospace boards, to now even automobiles and airplanes.

90% of what was made in the U.S. was consumed by Americans in 1995, since NAFTA it's dropped to 75%.

I hate how President Bush spent way too much money, we need to be more fiscally conservative to the ideals of Ronald Reagan who left a $550M surplus as a two-term governor of California, the largest state in the U.S. in the 70s. Cutting taxes during wartime is fine, but we didn't have to spend so much on ridiculous BS.

What's even worse is the pork barrel spending. What, $20B a year is wasted for congressmen helping there consitutents? Maybe this could be used to give health care to all the uninsured Americans with low cost drugs, not making a park look nicer.

No Federal Education Standards, while America has the finest educational Colleges on the face of the Earth, our High School students and younger aren't learning the proper material and are far behind the rest of the world.

I don't like how America won't add Poland to it's special VISA program, as Poland has been a staunch ally of the U.S. -- and would've been I think the only country in Europe to re-elect President Bush if they had a say in the election last Nov. (I'm also 90% Polish and my great grandfather nearly died getting to the U.S. from there)

I hate how people say we should reduce defense spending, or say the U.S. is purely an imperialistic country...

We helped stop advancement of imperalism in World War 1. In World War 2 we freed Europe from fascism. We then gave out the Marshall Plan and took Europe from poverty to prosperity. We also freed more in Europe under the evil grasp of Communism from the Soviet Union... I don't know any other country before in the past willingly gave money to a country as Japan and helped build it into one of the largest economic powers after it was destroyed...

God damn, if we wanted oil we could just forcefully take it or drill it ourselves...

I'd love to drill for our own oil in Alaska but liberals/Democrats won't let it happen. (hopefully it does now)

Oh, I'd also like to build a Oil Refinery for once in the United States. Oil a barrel should be $35 not upwards to $50 but a Oil Refinery hasn't been built in the U.S. since 1976 (start of the Carter adminstration). Then maybe our airline industry will be profitable again. I hate Democrats for not allowing this to happen.

I hate how we don't offer more tax breaks or subsidize more research into Hybrid Cars/Hydrogen Fuel Cells. We shouldn't be dependent on other people for our energy and the environment should be cleaner. Let American companies flippin do research to make the world more clean from fossil fuels. There the best to do the task...

Oh well, that's just a rough put together of things.


Apart from the rather vulgar taste in categorizing people and expressing no shortage of hatred for various such categories, there are several faults in your claims:

1) Reagan's fiscal conservatism really can't be substantiated in his presidency. Both national spending and deficit increased radically during his presidency.
2) The First World War had almost nothing to do with Imperialism, nor did it stop imperialism.
3) Although the contributions of the United States in WW2 fundamentally affected the post-war geopolitical conditions, "freeing" Europe from "fascism" is rather characteristic of the imbecile political categories which have unfortunately been the dominant trend of American nationalistic thinking in recent times.
4) The United States had nearly nothing to do with "freeing" Europe from "communism", which was largely accomplished by the voluntary Soviet withdraw from Europe, but did much to contribute to the causes of the cold war in the beginning.
5) Your use of historical examples are selective and dishonest at best, rather representative of a kind of idealism-cum-nationalism which has plagued the country for a century.

There's not too much else I can disagree with in your post, apart from rather obvious exaggerated claims such as "people who say the American economy is the worst since the Great Depression when unemployment is roughly 5.4%, and anything around 5% is considered full employment of the population."




Hrm. When Germany is marching in Downtown Paris, and England is down to it's last $2 Billion Dollars, and FDR starts the Lend-Lease Act to help them out, I'd say the U.S. fighting off Imperialist Japan and Germany is infact, freeing Europe from fascism.

As is the Marshall Plan. When Communist parties are getting large percentages of elections and Europe lays in poverty, we simply built Europe. There is no arguing that.

The United States outspending the Soviet Union on defense weaponry led to the collapse of the Soviet Union itself. The U.S.S.R. spent 50% of it's GDP on Nuclear Weapons and its military funding. However, there economy was no where close to our size after it boomed in the 1950s, 60s under JFK, early to mid 70s under Nixon, and the greatest expansionist years (1982-1989) of U.S. economic history, the Reagan years.

As far as Reagan's fiscal conservatism. He left a $550M surplus as a two term governor of California. And just in case anyone forgot, the Democrats controlled Congress from the Great Depression up until 1994 when the Republicans finally won a majority under Bill Clinton's Democratic presidency in both the House and Senate.

The Republican Congress would go on to shutdown HillaryCare, or the nationalization of 1/7th of the U.S. economy (Health Care obviously), keep tax rates low, CUT spending, and bring about the budget surpluses of the 1990s.

To suggest the U.S. had nothing to do with freeing Europe from communism is ridiculous. Please, how many people would still be living in poverty in Eastern Europe today if the U.S. did not challenge the Soviet Union. Hell, if we did nothing, they'd have an oil monopoly in the Middle East at the present moment.

As far as the economy, it's been growing I think on average of around 4% since a few quarters after 9/11. That's unbelievable growth, period.
Liberals idea of true patriotism is expanding the welfare state. Want to make a liberal angry? Defend the United States. Proud to be an American! Made in the USA, est. 1986.
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
February 02 2005 16:31 GMT
#147
We invented the only game in the world that can go on for 5 days straight and still end in a draw...
Memory lane in nice
IronMentality
Profile Joined July 2004
United States1129 Posts
February 02 2005 16:32 GMT
#148
On February 03 2005 01:31 Resonate wrote:
We invented the only game in the world that can go on for 5 days straight and still end in a draw...


Curling?
Liberals idea of true patriotism is expanding the welfare state. Want to make a liberal angry? Defend the United States. Proud to be an American! Made in the USA, est. 1986.
Resonate
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8402 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-02 16:47:13
February 02 2005 16:46 GMT
#149
On February 03 2005 01:32 IronMentality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2005 01:31 Resonate wrote:
We invented the only game in the world that can go on for 5 days straight and still end in a draw...


Curling?


what? not even close...

CRICKET!!

EDIT: tho thx for mentioning something else i hate. i dont' think we invented it tho
Memory lane in nice
jacen
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Austria3644 Posts
February 02 2005 16:54 GMT
#150
On February 03 2005 01:19 IronMentality wrote:
To suggest the U.S. had nothing to do with freeing Europe from communism is ridiculous. Please, how many people would still be living in poverty in Eastern Europe today if the U.S. did not challenge the Soviet Union. Hell, if we did nothing, they'd have an oil monopoly in the Middle East at the present moment.


you seem pretty convinced that there arent living pretty much all of the ppl in eastern euro in poverty. did you visit at least one of the eastern euro states in the last 3 years?
you seem pretty convinced that there isnt an oil monopoly in the middle east. do you think that the oil drillings in alaska and the north sea are anywhere comparable to the recources in the middle east?
(micronesia) lol we aren't going to just permban you (micronesia) "we" excludes Jinro
ToKoreaWithLove
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Norway10161 Posts
February 02 2005 17:11 GMT
#151
About my country:

- I think the legal system in norway is too forgiving. Some criminals should spend way more time in jail.

- I don't like the high car costs.

- I don't much like the fact that our prime minister is a priest because it reflects in his decitions.

- I don't like the fact that Norway is trying to be a bigger country than it actually is.

I DO like the fact that norway ain't plagued with tons babling idiots who can't realize their country make mistakes and keep talking "OMG LOOK WE HAVE MANY ARMY WE CAN PWN YOU NUB" everytime someone points out a valid argument.
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1hp
Profile Joined January 2005
Korea (South)903 Posts
February 02 2005 17:22 GMT
#152
seems like most of the games england invents, they suck at
AsHRaK
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland250 Posts
February 02 2005 18:03 GMT
#153
On February 02 2005 14:54 orzhady wrote:
taxes are way too high, 33% i think... so if i make 10 000kr one month, i will only keep 6666kr?


huh, the highest stake here in Poland is around 50% .. so i guess our taxes are really fucked up.

As for the rest .. corruption, crime, 10-15 yo drug/alcohol addicts everywhere. And church is just too involved in the politics.

come play my game.
shimmy
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Poland997 Posts
February 02 2005 18:17 GMT
#154
Poland:
- The high corruption of the political class. Although there are probably corrupted politicians in every country, the way most politicians behave in Poland is fucking disgusting.
- High unemployment.
- The corruption of the clergy. They have to many privileges...
- Many other things but mainly connected to the stuff I mentioned.


Apart from the faults that Poland has, I still love my country and I couldn’t imagine living anywhere else. As a matter of fact I’m about to write a post in the “Praise your own country” thread
Hell hath no fury like the vast robot armies of a woman scorned.
Szejhulud
Profile Joined January 2005
Poland73 Posts
February 02 2005 18:33 GMT
#155
huh, the highest stake here in Poland is around 50% .. so i guess our taxes are really fucked up.


No it's not. Although some stupid fucks tried to make it happen around december.
President didn't sign that, and besides it's like it would affect like 300 people or so.

But, yeah, our taxes suck from what i've heard they're 19,30 and 40% depending
on how much you actually earned last year.
What do you despise? By this are you truly known.
Telemako
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Spain1636 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-02-02 19:48:51
February 02 2005 19:27 GMT
#156
SPAIN:
Our political class are puppets.
Terrorism.
We supported the lies of Afghanistan and Iraq while 90% of the spanish people where manifestating against it
Somepeople here call bullfighting ART <- WTF?!
Our public TV is fucking retarded
We are unable to control the inmigration from Africa (everyday dozens of immigrants appear died in our beaches trying to cross from Africa to Spain in little boats)
We have neo-nazi groups in out main cities wich make noise when they have a TV camera near (Spain vs England football match, etc)
EDIT: Every spanish thinks that he is a football coach and a medical doctor
I've been around since it all started, and it feels good
kabuto
Profile Joined February 2005
27 Posts
February 02 2005 19:37 GMT
#157
Spain:
- People spend a shitload of time arguing about either soccer or politics
- Disrespect for other's opinions
- Education is very poor here (i believe that's the main reason for the problems above)

PD: first post :D
AsHRaK
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland250 Posts
February 02 2005 19:55 GMT
#158
On February 03 2005 03:33 Szejhulud wrote:

No it's not. Although some stupid fucks tried to make it happen around december.
President didn't sign that, and besides it's like it would affect like 300 people or so.

But, yeah, our taxes suck from what i've heard they're 19,30 and 40% depending
on how much you actually earned last year.


yup, you'r right it's 40% ..

although I really doubt that it would be only around 300 ppl who qualified for that new (dead) tax scale.
come play my game.
LogaiN
Profile Joined June 2003
Sweden1073 Posts
February 02 2005 20:01 GMT
#159
Taxes a bit too high (i.e., a guy with about 35 000 SEK/month (abot 5 grand each month) pays around 50 %, which is a bit insane).

As stygg mentionened, it's "bad" to be succesful... or it's something you should hide a bit ;D (only in BW-channes where poker is the thing you should brag as much as possible). I would say there is something called the "swedish jealousy", because people pretty much can't accept others making it good.

It's cold ;D
GulleFjuN@Europe
SonnyBlack
Profile Joined July 2004
Germany457 Posts
February 02 2005 20:05 GMT
#160
in germany there is too much shit music... this fuckin pop-music is being broadcasted non-stop on mtw and viva... that sucks!!!!
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