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Please read the topic before responding to the title. The film has been cut and given a rating, it is no longer banned. - KwarK
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
June 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#121
I'm not really for all kinds of censorship and such, but this kind of movie is something that really disturbs me.

I can't handle any movie that has to do with someone holding people against their will and doing things to them. (torture and such, and especially rape.) It disturbs me on a level that follows me around for a while after I see it or hear about it. Just reading about this will kinda haunt me for a few days, I regret clicking the thread, haha.
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Sindsygafnatur
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark265 Posts
June 07 2011 21:04 GMT
#122
On June 08 2011 05:47 mangomango wrote:
Is there any way to put an 18+ age required link on this? I'm not in favor of censorship but I'm sure a lot of young people visit this site. Perhaps there should be a section of TL that is only accessible with proof of age. Viewers have been critical of Gretorp and NASL for sexual allusions. As someone with two children that frequent this site I would like to believe that TL (though not tame) is a "safe place" on the internet. This blows right past that.


18+, really? Don't underestimate what young people can handle. Most 15(14?13?) -17 year old's have probably already seen way worse stuff, I'm sure they won't get a crooked mind from reading about obscene movie on TL. Which I'm of course gonna watch at some point with some friends and go "Eeeeew gross!"
RoosterSamurai
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Japan2108 Posts
June 07 2011 21:06 GMT
#123
On June 08 2011 06:04 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 05:47 mangomango wrote:
Is there any way to put an 18+ age required link on this? I'm not in favor of censorship but I'm sure a lot of young people visit this site. Perhaps there should be a section of TL that is only accessible with proof of age. Viewers have been critical of Gretorp and NASL for sexual allusions. As someone with two children that frequent this site I would like to believe that TL (though not tame) is a "safe place" on the internet. This blows right past that.


18+, really? Don't underestimate what young people can handle. Most 15(14?13?) -17 year old's have probably already seen way worse stuff, I'm sure they won't get a crooked mind from reading about obscene movie on TL. Which I'm of course gonna watch at some point with some friends and go "Eeeeew gross!"

Do you really want to make Hot_Bid have to deal with lawsuits against Team Liquid because some kid stumbled into a thread regarding a film out of his age group?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46052 Posts
June 07 2011 21:07 GMT
#124
I'm not for banning movies

I certainly won't be seeing it though. I can't handle gore or gruesome scenes. But for those who enjoy seeing them, I'd like it to be an option.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
albis
Profile Joined January 2010
United States652 Posts
June 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#125
lol. freedom of speech. has that ever actually happened?
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Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#126
On June 08 2011 06:04 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 05:47 mangomango wrote:
Is there any way to put an 18+ age required link on this? I'm not in favor of censorship but I'm sure a lot of young people visit this site. Perhaps there should be a section of TL that is only accessible with proof of age. Viewers have been critical of Gretorp and NASL for sexual allusions. As someone with two children that frequent this site I would like to believe that TL (though not tame) is a "safe place" on the internet. This blows right past that.


18+, really? Don't underestimate what young people can handle. Most 15(14?13?) -17 year old's have probably already seen way worse stuff, I'm sure they won't get a crooked mind from reading about obscene movie on TL. Which I'm of course gonna watch at some point with some friends and go "Eeeeew gross!"


And how sad is that.
Regardless this is NSFW for sure, and it would please me if the OP would spoiler tag the images.
This is just disgusting.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 21:11:31
June 07 2011 21:09 GMT
#127
On June 08 2011 05:04 baneling wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 05:02 Endymion wrote:
Couldn't even finish the trailer for the first one, wow that was disgusting.. There is just something really gross and alarming about an insane person with as much knowledge as a surgeon...


I agree! And if you look at 2:12 seconds of the first trailer where it shows the credits it says that it's '100% Medically Accurate' so this is something we need to legitimately be worried about.


That line was 100% bullshit

It's a shitty movie that banks on the "shock factor" to make money, banning something like that from cashing in is probably good use of censorship.
I will never ever play Mech against Protoss. - MVP
Skipvth
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands180 Posts
June 07 2011 21:11 GMT
#128
Thinking back of that movie gives makes me sick already :p, the doctor is played pretty good though
Sindsygafnatur
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark265 Posts
June 07 2011 21:12 GMT
#129
On June 08 2011 06:06 RoosterSamurai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 06:04 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
On June 08 2011 05:47 mangomango wrote:
Is there any way to put an 18+ age required link on this? I'm not in favor of censorship but I'm sure a lot of young people visit this site. Perhaps there should be a section of TL that is only accessible with proof of age. Viewers have been critical of Gretorp and NASL for sexual allusions. As someone with two children that frequent this site I would like to believe that TL (though not tame) is a "safe place" on the internet. This blows right past that.


18+, really? Don't underestimate what young people can handle. Most 15(14?13?) -17 year old's have probably already seen way worse stuff, I'm sure they won't get a crooked mind from reading about obscene movie on TL. Which I'm of course gonna watch at some point with some friends and go "Eeeeew gross!"

Do you really want to make Hot_Bid have to deal with lawsuits against Team Liquid because some kid stumbled into a thread regarding a film out of his age group?

No I wouldn't want that, but I doubt that would be a realistic scenario. I mean, in my country you've probably only have to be 15 to see the movie, so I don't think the age requirements of movies apply to the content discussed on a website with readers from all over the world? I mean I don't now for sure, but that would seem a bit silly to me
Sindsygafnatur
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark265 Posts
June 07 2011 21:13 GMT
#130
On June 08 2011 06:09 Euronyme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 06:04 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
On June 08 2011 05:47 mangomango wrote:
Is there any way to put an 18+ age required link on this? I'm not in favor of censorship but I'm sure a lot of young people visit this site. Perhaps there should be a section of TL that is only accessible with proof of age. Viewers have been critical of Gretorp and NASL for sexual allusions. As someone with two children that frequent this site I would like to believe that TL (though not tame) is a "safe place" on the internet. This blows right past that.


18+, really? Don't underestimate what young people can handle. Most 15(14?13?) -17 year old's have probably already seen way worse stuff, I'm sure they won't get a crooked mind from reading about obscene movie on TL. Which I'm of course gonna watch at some point with some friends and go "Eeeeew gross!"


And how sad is that.
Regardless this is NSFW for sure, and it would please me if the OP would spoiler tag the images.
This is just disgusting.

What, that young people get exposed to naughty stuff?
ain
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany786 Posts
June 07 2011 21:13 GMT
#131
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catharsis

If you can't deal with it, don't judge it. The movie might not be for you (it certainly isn't for me either), but that doesn't mean you should prohibit others from watching it.
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 21:16:40
June 07 2011 21:15 GMT
#132
Or you turn it around. A sick person that has such tendencies will seek out material that fits his fantasies.


Which begets the question, "should we be providing material to fit his fantasies?"

It's very debatable as to whether someone predisposed to rape, for example, either vicariously plays out his fantasies by watching rape porn so he doesn't go out and rape, or if watching rape porn stokes to go out and rape. I'd say most of the time, no, it doesn't, but sometimes it does, and we should think about how far we want to go. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

I don't think it's fair to suggest that people who enjoy this stuff are all suddenly sicko serial killers who can't wait to bathe in blood.


He didn't say that... in fact he said he wasn't saying that.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Tweleve
Profile Joined March 2011
United States644 Posts
June 07 2011 21:15 GMT
#133
This movie looks fine I don't see what the big deal is
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adius
Profile Joined May 2007
United States249 Posts
June 07 2011 21:18 GMT
#134
On June 08 2011 04:38 ManusCelerDei wrote:
Saw in one thing -> people getting cut up and hurt, but no one (hopefully) is 'giving themselves a treat' whilst watching it.


I know a woman who has, sorry to burst your bubble
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 21:19:40
June 07 2011 21:19 GMT
#135
Also, these "shock" movies are nothing more than big games playing on our brains. We see some sick shit, we get a little jolt of adrenaline. On the conscious level we're disgusted by it, but at the subconscious level we're like "yeah, we're ready for action now!" which our body likes so we want more. It's usually only later that we maybe start to feel really bad about it.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
June 07 2011 21:21 GMT
#136
On June 08 2011 06:13 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 06:09 Euronyme wrote:
On June 08 2011 06:04 Sindsygafnatur wrote:
On June 08 2011 05:47 mangomango wrote:
Is there any way to put an 18+ age required link on this? I'm not in favor of censorship but I'm sure a lot of young people visit this site. Perhaps there should be a section of TL that is only accessible with proof of age. Viewers have been critical of Gretorp and NASL for sexual allusions. As someone with two children that frequent this site I would like to believe that TL (though not tame) is a "safe place" on the internet. This blows right past that.


18+, really? Don't underestimate what young people can handle. Most 15(14?13?) -17 year old's have probably already seen way worse stuff, I'm sure they won't get a crooked mind from reading about obscene movie on TL. Which I'm of course gonna watch at some point with some friends and go "Eeeeew gross!"


And how sad is that.
Regardless this is NSFW for sure, and it would please me if the OP would spoiler tag the images.
This is just disgusting.

What, that young people get exposed to naughty stuff?


Yeah it's my opinion that there are more useful things to do for kids than to watch people being sewed together and raped with barbed wire.
Kids don't know what they can handle in many circumstances.
Imo it's a good thing this isn't showed on mainstream cinema. If you wanna watch it over the internet and wank off to it, be my guest.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Zocat
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2229 Posts
June 07 2011 21:21 GMT
#137
On June 08 2011 06:15 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
Or you turn it around. A sick person that has such tendencies will seek out material that fits his fantasies.


Which begets the question, "should we be providing material to fit his fantasies?"

It's very debatable as to whether someone predisposed to rape, for example, either vicariously plays out his fantasies by watching rape porn so he doesn't go out and rape, or if watching rape porn stokes to go out and rape. I'd say most of the time, no, it doesn't, but sometimes it does, and we should think about how far we want to go. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.


But wouldnt that same logic work in the case of "violent/gory" media and murder?
i.e. violent video games would lead to murder, therefore we should ban those video games?

Overall I think we should worry more about censorship concerning news (where are the bin Laden pictures^^) and not what is "ok" in entertainment (movies, games) by certain standards. Make sure only adults have legal access (ignoring internet) and it is fine by me.

That said - I will never watch that movie
sNuFFsie
Profile Joined March 2011
25 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 21:28:29
June 07 2011 21:23 GMT
#138
TL;DR: People take this too seriously. Yeah it's premise is weird beyond belief, but it was made to be weird and shocking. It pokes fun at itself throughout the movie, roll with it. There's worse movies out there.

THC wasn't at all as bad as I thought it was going to be. After wanting to see it for about a year (I couldn't justify watching that movie by myself.) I finally convinced two friends to watch it with me. It laughed more than I winced, granted I have a HIGHER tolerance for that kind of stuff than other people, but I don't believe I have a super high fear/gore threshold.

It was definitely made for the WTF factor. It's underacted and underacted on purpose. There's parts that are really cliche and those are in there on purpose. There's a scene + Show Spoiler +
where the girls' car breaks down. Instead of following the road, they decide to walk into the dark forest. Kind of playing on how in scary films people seem to make the dumbest survival choices.
Another part that seems to go against common sense is when + Show Spoiler +
the girls are in the doctor's house. He is the creepiest host ever and all the signs are there for you to GTFO, but they stay and it doesn't cross their minds to leave until their drugs are kicking in.
.

There's a lot of shock factor but I actually found it aesthetically pleasing. (lol) Great cinematography. I loved the ending. + Show Spoiler +
About ten minutes before it ends you get a feel for how it might end up and you are begging for it to end differently, but then it ends how you hoped it wouldn't and you loved it.


I also believe people to make it WORSE than it is. Yeah, the idea is disgusting and overly ridiculous but that's the POINT! This movie doesn't take itself too seriously and you shouldn't either. This movie pokes fun at itself in parts, there's a lot of tongue in cheek humor. It's over and under-acted in parts with the intention of over and under-acting. Also, the 100% medically accurate thing is a joke. + Show Spoiler +
This is funny because during the Doctor's "powerpoint presentation" about the surgery, his diagram shows the outline of three humans with a long tube connecting them.
, hardly accurate.



EDIT: Felt the need to add this: I was watching it at like 3 AM with two buddies, one of them can't handle scary movies so he went to bed. About halfway through the movie he came back and watched it with us because he heard us laughing and he ended up loving it. While I am not implying that this movie is a light-hearted, happy-go-lucky film, I am saying that if you watch it in good company, there's a good chance you'll be laughing more than crying.
Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
June 07 2011 21:23 GMT
#139
never saw the first one (for a reason) and don't plan on seeing this one either...
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poundcakes
Profile Joined March 2011
Norway239 Posts
June 07 2011 21:23 GMT
#140
I don't get why people want to ban something because they feels it's disgusting or wrong or something. A film doesn't hurt people, there are no plannings for a public debut show (as far as I am aware). Why not let people make and watch it, and mind your own business if it's not your thing?
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