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Please read the topic before responding to the title. The film has been cut and given a rating, it is no longer banned. - KwarK
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 16:06:18
October 19 2011 16:05 GMT
#501
forget it...
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
October 19 2011 16:13 GMT
#502
Banning a movie isn't the way of a free society. Censorship is the one thing would make me rebel against society.
I
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
October 19 2011 16:16 GMT
#503
On June 08 2011 04:40 stk01001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 04:23 Valashu wrote:
I will NEVER watch this D: now I know where southpark got their ideas from.



lol... I can't even imagine watching that episode of south park with no knowledge of the human centipede movie... i'd be so confused...


I was so confused.
maru lover forever
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 19 2011 16:20 GMT
#504
On October 20 2011 01:13 Gigaudas wrote:
Banning a movie isn't the way of a free society. Censorship is the one thing would make me rebel against society.


well thats not really fair and you know it. you're banned from doing lots of things. killing people etc. its the same line of reasoning they use to ban these films. inciting or glorifying pointless violence. hey i thought the first movie was actually funny in that it was so bad, i can just see the argument for banning movies.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
October 19 2011 16:22 GMT
#505
On October 20 2011 00:55 couches wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 12:52 BachHo wrote:
I'm all for letting people see what they want, freedom, etc., but in this case UK is just doing its citizens a favor by not letting anyone go near this film with a ten foot pole. Horrible films that just don't need any more publicity.

But this gives it publicity. People will seek it out now to see how bad it is.


Yep, I might watch it now. Already watched A Serbian Film because I heard that it was supposed to be insane and well it was maybe a little insane but I still don´t think a movie should be banned. If you don´t want to watch it then just don´t.
SC2, rip in pepperinos
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 16:46:07
October 19 2011 16:42 GMT
#506
Snuff (violent pr0n) is illegal, just as is child pr0n and other forms of very sick and twisted videos.

Human Centipede easily falls into those categories, what baffles me is that the movie is being released in the first place.

Who the fuck is sick and twisted enough to even want to work on a movie like this? I'm sorry but we have reached the limits of human decency.

I got a huge dose of reality in 2010 when I visited a concentration camp in Germany, it really put some perspective of Horror movies (I don't mean scary, I mean Horror) and their psychological value as entertainment.

People are taking this way too lightly.

Edit:

Arguing that this is an issue about freedom of speech falls in the same category as the shortcomings of the justice system, where it's not the truth that wins the case, but rather who can bend the laws of society to their advantage.
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Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 17:03:58
October 19 2011 17:03 GMT
#507
On October 20 2011 01:42 Krowser wrote:
Snuff (violent pr0n) is illegal, just as is child pr0n and other forms of very sick and twisted videos.

Human Centipede easily falls into those categories, what baffles me is that the movie is being released in the first place.

Who the fuck is sick and twisted enough to even want to work on a movie like this? I'm sorry but we have reached the limits of human decency.

I got a huge dose of reality in 2010 when I visited a concentration camp in Germany, it really put some perspective of Horror movies (I don't mean scary, I mean Horror) and their psychological value as entertainment.

People are taking this way too lightly.

Edit:

Arguing that this is an issue about freedom of speech falls in the same category as the shortcomings of the justice system, where it's not the truth that wins the case, but rather who can bend the laws of society to their advantage.

I've been to what was apparently a concentration camp for Japanese in the US, and to a couple old concentration camps in Greece from the civil war. It's a bit unnerving being in effectively a massive, cramped prison for non-criminals, but I wouldn't say scary... Horror is like when a cross-faded gangsta points a gun at you. Even if he doesn't want to shoot you, he's so wasted, it may not even matter what he decides. Pretty close call, to say the least.

If people want to watch Human Centipede, then it just shows some people are really into sick and disgusting things. How anyone in on the movie (in particular the planner) could even have decided to be involved in it is abhorrent.
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 17:55:22
October 19 2011 17:51 GMT
#508
On October 20 2011 02:03 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 01:42 Krowser wrote:
Snuff (violent pr0n) is illegal, just as is child pr0n and other forms of very sick and twisted videos.

Human Centipede easily falls into those categories, what baffles me is that the movie is being released in the first place.

Who the fuck is sick and twisted enough to even want to work on a movie like this? I'm sorry but we have reached the limits of human decency.

I got a huge dose of reality in 2010 when I visited a concentration camp in Germany, it really put some perspective of Horror movies (I don't mean scary, I mean Horror) and their psychological value as entertainment.

People are taking this way too lightly.

Edit:

Arguing that this is an issue about freedom of speech falls in the same category as the shortcomings of the justice system, where it's not the truth that wins the case, but rather who can bend the laws of society to their advantage.

I've been to what was apparently a concentration camp for Japanese in the US, and to a couple old concentration camps in Greece from the civil war. It's a bit unnerving being in effectively a massive, cramped prison for non-criminals, but I wouldn't say scary... Horror is like when a cross-faded gangsta points a gun at you. Even if he doesn't want to shoot you, he's so wasted, it may not even matter what he decides. Pretty close call, to say the least.

If people want to watch Human Centipede, then it just shows some people are really into sick and disgusting things. How anyone in on the movie (in particular the planner) could even have decided to be involved in it is abhorrent.


I think what you have visited was a P.O.W camp. Basically a prison for soldiers. I went to Dachau, which was the model/template camp for the extermination of jews and without going into detail, the ones that were shot on the spot were the lucky ones.

I was depressed when I got out of there, but not as depressed as the tour guide himself. It's one thing to hop on Wikipedia and read about it, but it's a whole other experience to actually visit the place and see how ''business was conducted''.

In short: Fucked up.

The tour guide told me that every German soldier has to go through a very thorough visit of concentration camps, much more detailed that what I got, just to ensure that this kind of crap never happens again.

And in the meantime you've got morons making ''entertainment'' out of similar situations.

I am appalled, revolted and disgusted by this whole mess of things.
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
October 19 2011 17:56 GMT
#509
On October 20 2011 01:42 Krowser wrote:
Snuff (violent pr0n) is illegal, just as is child pr0n and other forms of very sick and twisted videos.

Human Centipede easily falls into those categories, what baffles me is that the movie is being released in the first place.

Who the fuck is sick and twisted enough to even want to work on a movie like this? I'm sorry but we have reached the limits of human decency.

I got a huge dose of reality in 2010 when I visited a concentration camp in Germany, it really put some perspective of Horror movies (I don't mean scary, I mean Horror) and their psychological value as entertainment.

People are taking this way too lightly.

Edit:

Arguing that this is an issue about freedom of speech falls in the same category as the shortcomings of the justice system, where it's not the truth that wins the case, but rather who can bend the laws of society to their advantage.



Err.. you need to look into the definition of "Snuff"
Snuff is basically people getting killed for real in movies that are to be sold as entertainment to sick people. Also, snuff is not to be confused with people getting killed on camera by accident such as on surveillance cameras etc. that would be "mondo".

For people who are into exploitation and sleaze, people that collect rare horror movies such as the notorious "Video Nasties" way back, the Human Centipede comes of as a rather tame movie.
Movies like the August Underground, that serbian movie etc. are way waaaay more shocking and disturbing than this.

Furthermore, there is nothing about this movie that breaks any laws, being disgusting or showing disgusting things is not a crime which is why i don't think this should be banned. If sick people want to watch it, let them, as long as the movie isn't breaking any laws, what's the problem?
This comes down to a matter of taste, and people that don't like it have the choice to ignore it.
Just because i don't like something doesn't mean it should be banned.
We make signature, then defense it.
drc
Profile Joined October 2004
Finland261 Posts
October 19 2011 18:08 GMT
#510
I have to say that I'm at loss of words after watching the trailer and even reading about it. This is a little sick tbh.
I have two holes in my wall, from losing in quake 3 and broodwar... I really got a problem. (c) SkY
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
October 19 2011 18:10 GMT
#511
On October 20 2011 02:56 grobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 01:42 Krowser wrote:
Snuff (violent pr0n) is illegal, just as is child pr0n and other forms of very sick and twisted videos.

Human Centipede easily falls into those categories, what baffles me is that the movie is being released in the first place.

Who the fuck is sick and twisted enough to even want to work on a movie like this? I'm sorry but we have reached the limits of human decency.

I got a huge dose of reality in 2010 when I visited a concentration camp in Germany, it really put some perspective of Horror movies (I don't mean scary, I mean Horror) and their psychological value as entertainment.

People are taking this way too lightly.

Edit:

Arguing that this is an issue about freedom of speech falls in the same category as the shortcomings of the justice system, where it's not the truth that wins the case, but rather who can bend the laws of society to their advantage.



Err.. you need to look into the definition of "Snuff"
Snuff is basically people getting killed for real in movies that are to be sold as entertainment to sick people. Also, snuff is not to be confused with people getting killed on camera by accident such as on surveillance cameras etc. that would be "mondo".

For people who are into exploitation and sleaze, people that collect rare horror movies such as the notorious "Video Nasties" way back, the Human Centipede comes of as a rather tame movie.
Movies like the August Underground, that serbian movie etc. are way waaaay more shocking and disturbing than this.

Furthermore, there is nothing about this movie that breaks any laws, being disgusting or showing disgusting things is not a crime which is why i don't think this should be banned. If sick people want to watch it, let them, as long as the movie isn't breaking any laws, what's the problem?
This comes down to a matter of taste, and people that don't like it have the choice to ignore it.
Just because i don't like something doesn't mean it should be banned.


Well see this is the issue. No it's not breaking laws and it's all filmed with actors who pretend to be characters whereas in snuff and other videos they are not pretending.

But at the end of the day, the message that comes with an actor movie is ALMOST just as bad as the one that comes from a live video.

You're right, it's legal, it's OK by the terms our society (societIES) are based upon but what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be.

And what's messed up? I'll be my own devil's advocate. By saying it shouldn't be legal I AM walking a very thin line between freedom of speech and decency. If you start banning movies left and right how do you define the parameters of what should be banned?

Sooner rather than later you'll get the extremists who want to ban everything that's not sunshine and rainbows and we can trail off into a Big Brother 1984 discussion right here.

I don't have a point, I'm stating what I notice and what I see. As the world has taught me.
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Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
October 19 2011 18:17 GMT
#512
I actually watched this movie one night while bored. I heard it was disturbing.

Frankly, it was. Was it that bad? No. The Saw franchise would put it to shame.

I try to find justification for this movie, but I really can't see any... Maybe that we shouldn't try to play god and create our own "being"?
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 20:20:51
October 19 2011 18:33 GMT
#513
So that's where Human CentiPad comes from, makes more sense.
Also to me it's fine they ban this shit, I mean, seriously.

Also: Dachau was never an active concentration camp in the sense that it did never began using it's "burning ovens". I'm not sure whether or not they gassed people, but the didn't burn them there AFAIK (Yes I have been to Dachau) However they did use jews for slavelabor and mutilated them like in all the other concentration camps. But they never got the largescale "gas-and-burn operation up and going"

edit: I did not mean Dachau wasn't a concentration camp, just that it was a big extermination camp like for example Auschwitz. (not saying that noone died in Dachau, lots did)
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
andycz
Profile Joined September 2011
288 Posts
October 19 2011 18:43 GMT
#514
lol @ all the guys who feel the need to publicly announce that they're too much of a pussy to.. watch a movie.
also lol @ the people who say it's okay to ban a movie because they personally find it disgusting. you can simply not watch it, you know? it's not like someone who, for his own reasons, might want to see it, is going to sew your mouth to another person's anus if the government doesn't ban the flick. what other people are watching is none of your (or states) business.
by the way i didnt watch any of the movies and i'm not going to. i however find it ridiculous that it's possible to actually ban them in a "democratic" country and, even worse, people actually applaud it.. then again, it's the good ol' GB.. enjoy your police state, it's only gonna get worse. but i guess most of you guys love it, cause you're too dumb to take care of yourself and need the big bro to do it.
Always looking for practice partners. EU: andy.1535
uMjuzu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark24 Posts
October 19 2011 18:44 GMT
#515
The first one was hilarious... So poorly made not even really disgusting...
Really, Really bad movie...
Babidibubbe?
Calyeah
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom32 Posts
October 19 2011 19:09 GMT
#516
I think people are overreacting, especially in light of the film being given a classification after having some scenes cut. The BBFC (rating board over here) only bans films for very specific reasons, in this case the fact that so many scenes revolved around the main character getting sexually aroused by the degradation of others. In this case I am quite happy that they refused classification until after the offending scenes were removed, such scenes were not integral to the movie at all and only served to try and push the boundaries of what is acceptable. Either way you can watch the film here now, it's just slightly less obscene.
Eschaton
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1245 Posts
October 19 2011 19:12 GMT
#517
Let's play a game, I'll start. Take a movie title, humorously insert 'human centipede'.

Zach and Miri Make a Human Centipede
Oroch
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium143 Posts
October 19 2011 19:17 GMT
#518
On October 20 2011 03:33 Grovbolle wrote:
So that's where Human CentiPad comes from, makes more sense.
Also to me it's fine they ban this shit, I mean, seriously.

Also: Dachau was never an active concentration camp in the sense that it did never began using it's "burning ovens". I'm not sure whether or not they gassed people, but the didn't burn them there AFAIK (Yes I have been to Dachau) However they did use jews for slavelabor and mutilated them like in all the other concentration camps. But they never got the largescale "gas-and-burn operation up and going"



Ur wrong, it was a Concentration Camp, just not a Extermination Camp.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-19 19:25:30
October 19 2011 19:21 GMT
#519
On October 20 2011 02:03 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2011 01:42 Krowser wrote:
Snuff (violent pr0n) is illegal, just as is child pr0n and other forms of very sick and twisted videos.

Human Centipede easily falls into those categories, what baffles me is that the movie is being released in the first place.

Who the fuck is sick and twisted enough to even want to work on a movie like this? I'm sorry but we have reached the limits of human decency.

I got a huge dose of reality in 2010 when I visited a concentration camp in Germany, it really put some perspective of Horror movies (I don't mean scary, I mean Horror) and their psychological value as entertainment.

People are taking this way too lightly.

Edit:

Arguing that this is an issue about freedom of speech falls in the same category as the shortcomings of the justice system, where it's not the truth that wins the case, but rather who can bend the laws of society to their advantage.

I've been to what was apparently a concentration camp for Japanese in the US, and to a couple old concentration camps in Greece from the civil war. It's a bit unnerving being in effectively a massive, cramped prison for non-criminals, but I wouldn't say scary... Horror is like when a cross-faded gangsta points a gun at you. Even if he doesn't want to shoot you, he's so wasted, it may not even matter what he decides. Pretty close call, to say the least.

If people want to watch Human Centipede, then it just shows some people are really into sick and disgusting things. How anyone in on the movie (in particular the planner) could even have decided to be involved in it is abhorrent.

I don't want to sound harsh but a prisoner of war camp does not even begin to compare to a concentration camp like Auschwitz, where literaly millions of people were killed because they didn't conform to the nazi norm.

Equally chilling and humbling is walking around Ypres, Belgium, knowing that millions of people fought and died on the very ground you walk on during the First World War. I've been there a few times already and I'm usually very quiet during my visit of the area.

I don't blame you though, it's impossible to capture that feeling if you've never been there.

Movies like the human centipede and Saw 2 and onwards (I found the first one a brilliant thriller in which you never really knew who was the killer) are just decadent. Torture and suffering as a form of entertainment is just sick.

Then again, decency is a value that's all too absent in our western societies, just like honor.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
October 19 2011 19:25 GMT
#520
On October 20 2011 03:44 uMjuzu wrote:
The first one was hilarious... So poorly made not even really disgusting...
Really, Really bad movie...


i guess me and you were the only ones who feel this way : D

i couldnt take the first one seriously, it was just so bad that i laughed the whole way through.
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