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Please read the topic before responding to the title. The film has been cut and given a rating, it is no longer banned. - KwarK | ||
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emythrel
United Kingdom2599 Posts
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Kamais_Ookin
Canada4218 Posts
On June 08 2011 07:52 vyyye wrote: I'm so happy that people here acknowledge the greatness of Cannibal Corpse!Their lyrics are almost as good as their music. Quality writing right there. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
Banning something is a tad too strong, but screw it, this movie is so retarded it deserves it | ||
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NIJ
1012 Posts
On June 08 2011 07:48 skeldark wrote: Why are you sorry for that? im not sorry for you that English is your first language. if you dont understand nr 3, it have nothing to do with language^^ Anyways i wanted to give some arguments why its not a violence of freedom of speach or art if you ban this movie. I have the feeling my english is just to bad to make my points clear. And i have the feeling most of the guys here are to young and to be honest just not able to make such a discussion. it was a mistake to start it. TL is not the place for stuff like this. So sorry for my interruption. go on with "yeah freedom of speech" "shit movie"..... Ok I'm not gonna call you dumb but your english is clearly lacking cause some of your posts are incomprehensible. I don't think its just me since everyone else seems to be clueless about what you're trying to communicate like I am. And secondly you obviously have no idea how civil rights works. Or what tyranny of majority is if you think majority has rights to deny minority rights. | ||
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Yiska
141 Posts
On June 08 2011 07:48 skeldark wrote: Why are you sorry for that? im not sorry for you that English is your first language. if you dont understand nr 3, it have nothing to do with language^^ Anyways i wanted to give some arguments why its not a violence of freedom of speach or art if you ban this movie. I have the feeling my english is just to bad to make my points clear. And i have the feeling most of the guys here are to young and to be honest just not able to make such a discussion. it was a mistake to start it. TL is not the place for stuff like this. So sorry for my interruption. go on with "yeah freedom of speech" "shit movie"..... Actually the age ad hominem does work against you. Fairly sure most of the people argueing against your point are older than you and that is not a coincidence . You've yet to make the required experience to understand how ignorant your statement is, essentially starting in the fact that you've yet to see the movie. Baffling. | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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muse5187
1125 Posts
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Deekin[
Serbia1713 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On June 08 2011 08:08 Deekin[ wrote: ah this film, I look forward to it, I love the saw film with alot of gore and phsycological stuff. Might even be worth going to the cinema. I see how it is... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Serbian_Film + Show Spoiler + Not racist | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
I used some word that you guys misunderstand. and perhaps your right i just misused them. 1) Even in a society that have the main right of freedom of speech it can be ok to ban a movie. Every right stops where it hurts another right. Its just to easy and simple to say banning is always bad and we need total freedom of speech. 2) However When you ban a movie you cut the rights of the people who want to see it. So you must weigh if the right of this group is more worth than the right of the other group, who are afraid that such movie can be dangerous. 3) in this special case i think the 2. right win. Because even if the chance is very small that people who watch this do something dangerous, it is pretty obvious that people who want to see such movies have big mental problems. So if we cut the right of people to watch such movies -that let them feel good when they see people torture- it is OK in my opinion. | ||
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Chef
10810 Posts
If a work doesn't have redeeming social value I don't mind that it is banned. I think people who argue for 100% freedom are silly. You have 100% freedom if you want it. It's just that you have to face the real world. If you want to live in society, then sacrifice some of your freedoms. I want to be protected. | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On June 08 2011 08:19 skeldark wrote: it is pretty obvious that people who want to see such movies have big mental problems. This is why no one is taking you seriously. Well, one of the reasons. Your complete logical fallacies play a part too. | ||
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meep
United States1699 Posts
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thekibk
United States116 Posts
On June 08 2011 08:01 emythrel wrote: Damn i don't remember a film being banned since The Exorcist...... this must be some heavy shit if it got banned in the UK... we have pretty liberal film ratings these days, films that were 18's when the were released 15 years ago are now 12's lol Lol, I got interested and did some research on what has been banned. There have been 11 bans in the United Kingdom: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banned_films#United_Kingdom only Three Remained Banned: Visions of Ecstacy (for religious crimes) Mikey (A Child murders people) Grotesque (Japanese) I don't really care. I hate all forms of horror movies. But freedom of speech seems kinda important, even though this would inspire some fucked up shit. | ||
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Zocat
Germany2229 Posts
On June 08 2011 08:19 skeldark wrote: ok, ok last try.... I used some word that you guys misunderstand. and perhaps your right i just misused them. 1) Even in a society that have the main right of freedom of speech it can be ok to ban a movie. Every right stops where it hurts another right. Its just to easy and simple to say banning is always bad and we need total freedom of speech. 2) However When you ban a movie you cut the rights of the people who want to see it. So you must weigh if the right of this group is more worth than the right of the other group, who are afraid that such movie can be dangerous. 3) in this special case i think the 2. right win. Because even if the chance is very small that people who watch this do something dangerous, it is pretty obvious that people who want to see such movies have big mental problems. So if we cut the right of people to watch such movies -that let them feel good when they see people torture- it is OK in my opinion. 3. So you are okay that the German governments bans all "killerspiele" (shooters for us non-Germans^^), because many people claim that violent video games are the reason for murders & shooting sprees? And keep in mind that those people have the same "facts" backing up their statements like you do: none. Or you might enlighten a lot of us here and show a scientific study that shows that people who watch those movies have big mental problems. | ||
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skeldark
Germany2223 Posts
On June 08 2011 08:22 vyyye wrote: This is why no one is taking you seriously. Well, one of the reasons. Your complete logical fallacies play a part too. you guys think its fun to watch such movies? i was thinking you agree with me that its shit and just argue for the general freedom of speech. So if you really enjoy stuff like this than i total misunderstand the situation! If you feel something like fun when you look such crap than there is just nothing i have to say to you... | ||
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Befree
695 Posts
I'm just glad its extreme violence that they are banning a movie for, rather than things like pornography, language, or political message. I think our priorities in censorship are at least getting more on track. | ||
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HellRoxYa
Sweden1614 Posts
On June 08 2011 08:19 skeldark wrote: ok, ok last try.... I used some word that you guys misunderstand. and perhaps your right i just misused them. 1) Even in a society that have the main right of freedom of speech it can be ok to ban a movie. Every right stops where it hurts another right. Its just to easy and simple to say banning is always bad and we need total freedom of speech. 2) However When you ban a movie you cut the rights of the people who want to see it. So you must weigh if the right of this group is more worth than the right of the other group, who are afraid that such movie can be dangerous. 3) in this special case i think the 2. right win. Because even if the chance is very small that people who watch this do something dangerous, it is pretty obvious that people who want to see such movies have big mental problems. So if we cut the right of people to watch such movies -that let them feel good when they see people torture- it is OK in my opinion. First of all, no, it's not obvious at all. In fact, you're just wrong. Then there's this other issue of why is it wrong for them to enjoy such movies just because you don't? Are you the moral authority of mankind? (You're not) Just like there's people who enjoy scat sex (that's sex where poo is involved) there are people who enjoy these movies. All you have to do is not get involved and it wont bother or disturb your life in the slightest. Just move along. <insert obligatory deal-with-it pic here> | ||
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vyyye
Sweden3917 Posts
On June 08 2011 08:28 skeldark wrote: you guys think its fun to watch such movies? i was thinking you agree with me that its shit and just argue for the general freedom of speech. So if you really enjoy stuff like this than i total misunderstand the situation! If you feel something like fun when you look such crap than there is just nothing i have to say to you... Oh? So if my preferences in entertainment clashes with yours you are somehow superior to me? | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
But it is not as disgusting as what people might think. In fact, I find it very boring because I dont understand anything at all. When I noe this movie from friend, It make me want to watch because I want to know how 3 people joined up to form a centipede, what is the story behind, what kind of difficulties they have to face to go back to normal life. I expect alot alot from the movie. But when I watch, they are just joined up by using the cloth used to wrap mummies with, and wrap 1 face to another backside. 2 times. To form a human centipede with 3 people. The story behind it, some guy want to have human centipede as pet. If u wan me summary the whole plot, it is "Life of the centipede and it's master" for 2 hours. So u noe how boring it is? When I start to feel dissapointing, I somehow predict what kind of scary thing or disgusting thing the movie is trying to do to scare me. I predict it quite accurate so when it happens, I just feel "..." Ah...Don't feel sad if it got ban, because I feel the sequel, they make it look interesting so u will go watch but when u watch, u will feel dissapointed. | ||
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