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Please read the topic before responding to the title. The film has been cut and given a rating, it is no longer banned. - KwarK |
On June 08 2011 07:31 teekesselchen wrote:Show nested quote +In an email to Empire magazine, Six accused the BBFC of posting spoilers of his new film by revealing plot details in the course of explaining its decision Oh man, that's ridiculous. Of course plot details have to be considered in those ratings, and of course such ratings have to be public in order to make sure that no arbitrariness happens. Really, where's the problem?
Ratings are entirely arbitrary. If they aren't, then there's guidelines, and they can just release which ones they've stepped on to cause the film to be banned. They can do it without spoilers; ala the varying video game ratings boards that are out there.
Honestly, it's entirely counterproductive. The human centipede wasn't exactly known, and neither was the director, but now; tons of people are going to watch it because they found out about it.
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Nobody should watch this piece of shit movie. If it was free, good for a laugh? You still have a fucked up sense of humour but maybe. But paying people to make this film is total injustice. This movie actually deserves not to be seen and no one should have to ban it to accomplish that, aside from the private theatres who just decide not to run it. Absurd trash merely being thrown out there doesn't justify free speech violations.
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On June 08 2011 07:32 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 07:15 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 07:11 Klaus1986 wrote:On June 08 2011 07:05 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:56 Sindsygafnatur wrote:On June 08 2011 06:49 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:42 Sindsygafnatur wrote:On June 08 2011 06:40 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:39 Olinim wrote:On June 08 2011 06:37 skeldark wrote:
so there is no question if you should ban such shit because only really dangerous and ill people would watch is anyway. but i think its really scary that there is a bigger market for such films and that there are so many mental ill people around. You're mentally ill if you think watching a movie means you're dangerous. not watching it makes you dangerous! but that you WANT to watch such shit means you ARE dangerous! I heard about this movie...where someone kills another person, just because he's evil and mean. Have you seen it? you dont get the difference about a movie where someone shot someone and a movie where they show how people are tortured in detail? Okay so movies involving torture should be banned because they make people dangerous. Are there other unpleasant things we should be sheltered from? How about people being mean to each other? People who don't wash their hands after they pee? God they make me wanna blow shit up! I never say it makes you dangerous. a child perhaps... if you want to watch this you are allready dangerous. The majority have the right to deny rights. that why we make laws. To deny rights of minority to the better good of all. Only because there is a law dont mean it must be good. we should ask ourself every time if our rules are good or if we need new rules. But there is no overall problem on denying something, our society base on this. So i say the right of many to live secure is more worth than the right of few who likes to watch how people get torture. The danger that this ill people will harm someone more likely because they see such movies is small but still big enough to deny them this right. I can understand that people want to give them the right to watch this. even if they are dangerous watching this movie must not mean the start to act like this. But i think the little chance is enough. This may be the dumbest post I have ever read in my entire life. The majority have absolutely no right to determine what is acceptable to a minority and indeed is one of the founding aspects of democracy everywhere. To protect minority rights is paramount. You are a dunce. so we dont have to right to deny a person the right to kill someone? we dont have the right to make laws and rules? We determine whats acceptable with every law we write. we do this everyday our hole life in every social group. we make rules. this is how society works. this have nothing to do with democracy at all. one of the rules of democracy is that we everyone have the kind of the same rights. not that everyone have all rights. perhaps you misunderstand my use of the word minority. i don't mean a special group i mean the group who want to break the rule. im sorry when i dont end with a blaming. i know that for people like you this is normal and social standard. and you know what? Here you perhaps have the right to do so. I would give it to you because you right of speaking like you want is in this case more worth than my right of not being blamed. you have to weigh, every time... ;') 1. Your posts are unbelievably stupid. 2. I don't believe English is your first language, though on account of 1 it's not impossible. 3. You don't understand what a "right" is at least in terms of law. Either that or your comprehension of the English language is so abysmal you can't properly articulate a single thought.
1. looks like you are form that group that learned to start your post with a blaming.
you should team up with the other guy who comes from the "end a post with a blaming" group.
2. give this man 100 points. btw you can check by just looking at the header of a post....
strange that you didnt find this out yet after 500 posts.
3. i dont talk over a right in terms of law. how can i talk over right in terms of law when i talk over right to make a law?
4. your right. my english is to bad to discuss such a complicated thing and this forum is totally the wrong place to discuss such complicated things too.
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On June 08 2011 07:32 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 07:15 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 07:11 Klaus1986 wrote:On June 08 2011 07:05 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:56 Sindsygafnatur wrote:On June 08 2011 06:49 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:42 Sindsygafnatur wrote:On June 08 2011 06:40 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:39 Olinim wrote:On June 08 2011 06:37 skeldark wrote:
so there is no question if you should ban such shit because only really dangerous and ill people would watch is anyway. but i think its really scary that there is a bigger market for such films and that there are so many mental ill people around. You're mentally ill if you think watching a movie means you're dangerous. not watching it makes you dangerous! but that you WANT to watch such shit means you ARE dangerous! I heard about this movie...where someone kills another person, just because he's evil and mean. Have you seen it? you dont get the difference about a movie where someone shot someone and a movie where they show how people are tortured in detail? Okay so movies involving torture should be banned because they make people dangerous. Are there other unpleasant things we should be sheltered from? How about people being mean to each other? People who don't wash their hands after they pee? God they make me wanna blow shit up! I never say it makes you dangerous. a child perhaps... if you want to watch this you are allready dangerous. The majority have the right to deny rights. that why we make laws. To deny rights of minority to the better good of all. Only because there is a law dont mean it must be good. we should ask ourself every time if our rules are good or if we need new rules. But there is no overall problem on denying something, our society base on this. So i say the right of many to live secure is more worth than the right of few who likes to watch how people get torture. The danger that this ill people will harm someone more likely because they see such movies is small but still big enough to deny them this right. I can understand that people want to give them the right to watch this. even if they are dangerous watching this movie must not mean the start to act like this. But i think the little chance is enough. This may be the dumbest post I have ever read in my entire life. The majority have absolutely no right to determine what is acceptable to a minority and indeed is one of the founding aspects of democracy everywhere. To protect minority rights is paramount. You are a dunce. so we dont have to right to deny a person the right to kill someone? we dont have the right to make laws and rules? We determine whats acceptable with every law we write. we do this everyday our hole life in every social group. we make rules. this is how society works. this have nothing to do with democracy at all. one of the rules of democracy is that we everyone have the kind of the same rights. not that everyone have all rights. perhaps you misunderstand my use of the word minority. i don't mean a special group i mean the group who want to break the rule. im sorry when i dont end with a blaming. i know that for people like you this is normal and social standard. and you know what? Here you perhaps have the right to do so. I would give it to you because you right of speaking like you want is in this case more worth than my right of not being blamed. you have to weigh, every time... ;') 1. Your posts are unbelievably stupid. 2. I don't believe English is your first language, though on account of 1 it's not impossible. 3. You don't understand what a "right" is at least in terms of law. Either that or your comprehension of the English language is so abysmal you can't properly articulate a single thought.
This. Though I can understand what he tries to bring across because of the fairly German structure and phrases he uses, I can however assure you that his train of thought is in no way more tolerable than it must seem to a native speaker. It's pants on head retarded.
Talk about freedom of speech.
Movies/art should be censored hard cause u sicko!!!
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On June 08 2011 07:22 goiflin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 07:20 kaztah wrote:
I had actually never heard about this movie, and banning something is basicly begging people to watch it. Sounds like it could be interesting, yet it also sounds like it's the worst movie story and concept I have ever heard of, but meh. That's what you got to do to top the whole hostel and saw industry.
This thankfully explains my confusion surrounding the south park episode and how the hell they managed to come up with their centipad. It's all so much clearer now, but I haven't quite decided if I prefered to live in ignorance or in bliss yet.
You know, the way you worded that makes it sound like you're blissful now that you've discovered the joys of this film, right?  But yeah, I was wondering when something like this would come out. Stuff like saw and hostel would eventually lead to stuff like this. Not that I really care that it did, I was just wondering how long it would take for someone to actually go "You know what saw needs? More people eating feces.". I was betting on 10 years, and I guess I was wrong!
Oops, I guess saying that I'm happier of the fact that I now know what the episode was actually about is a more accurate statement!
The most interesting about this is wondering what they'll do next to top this trend again. I'm glad I don't know the answer >_<
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On June 08 2011 07:37 zobz wrote:
Nobody should watch this piece of shit movie. If it was free, good for a laugh? You still have a fucked up sense of humour but maybe. But paying people to make this film is total injustice. This movie actually deserves not to be seen and no one should have to ban it to accomplish that, aside from the private theatres who just decide not to run it. Absurd trash merely being thrown out there doesn't justify free speech violations.
Have you seen it?
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On June 08 2011 07:36 goiflin wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 07:31 teekesselchen wrote:In an email to Empire magazine, Six accused the BBFC of posting spoilers of his new film by revealing plot details in the course of explaining its decision Oh man, that's ridiculous. Of course plot details have to be considered in those ratings, and of course such ratings have to be public in order to make sure that no arbitrariness happens. Really, where's the problem? Ratings are entirely arbitrary. If they aren't, then there's guidelines, and they can just release which ones they've stepped on to cause the film to be banned. They can do it without spoilers; ala the varying video game ratings boards that are out there. Honestly, it's entirely counterproductive. The human centipede wasn't exactly known, and neither was the director, but now; tons of people are going to watch it because they found out about it.
It's called mainstream media. They've been bringing attention to shit that doesn't matter for centuries. The people that are the best at it reside at Fox News.
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On June 08 2011 07:38 skeldark wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 07:32 Olinim wrote:On June 08 2011 07:15 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 07:11 Klaus1986 wrote:On June 08 2011 07:05 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:56 Sindsygafnatur wrote:On June 08 2011 06:49 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:42 Sindsygafnatur wrote:On June 08 2011 06:40 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:39 Olinim wrote:
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You're mentally ill if you think watching a movie means you're dangerous. not watching it makes you dangerous! but that you WANT to watch such shit means you ARE dangerous! I heard about this movie...where someone kills another person, just because he's evil and mean. Have you seen it? you dont get the difference about a movie where someone shot someone and a movie where they show how people are tortured in detail? Okay so movies involving torture should be banned because they make people dangerous. Are there other unpleasant things we should be sheltered from? How about people being mean to each other? People who don't wash their hands after they pee? God they make me wanna blow shit up! I never say it makes you dangerous. a child perhaps... if you want to watch this you are allready dangerous. The majority have the right to deny rights. that why we make laws. To deny rights of minority to the better good of all. Only because there is a law dont mean it must be good. we should ask ourself every time if our rules are good or if we need new rules. But there is no overall problem on denying something, our society base on this. So i say the right of many to live secure is more worth than the right of few who likes to watch how people get torture. The danger that this ill people will harm someone more likely because they see such movies is small but still big enough to deny them this right. I can understand that people want to give them the right to watch this. even if they are dangerous watching this movie must not mean the start to act like this. But i think the little chance is enough. This may be the dumbest post I have ever read in my entire life. The majority have absolutely no right to determine what is acceptable to a minority and indeed is one of the founding aspects of democracy everywhere. To protect minority rights is paramount. You are a dunce. so we dont have to right to deny a person the right to kill someone? we dont have the right to make laws and rules? We determine whats acceptable with every law we write. we do this everyday our hole life in every social group. we make rules. this is how society works. this have nothing to do with democracy at all. one of the rules of democracy is that we everyone have the kind of the same rights. not that everyone have all rights. perhaps you misunderstand my use of the word minority. i don't mean a special group i mean the group who want to break the rule. im sorry when i dont end with a blaming. i know that for people like you this is normal and social standard. and you know what? Here you perhaps have the right to do so. I would give it to you because you right of speaking like you want is in this case more worth than my right of not being blamed. you have to weigh, every time... ;') 1. Your posts are unbelievably stupid. 2. I don't believe English is your first language, though on account of 1 it's not impossible. 3. You don't understand what a "right" is at least in terms of law. Either that or your comprehension of the English language is so abysmal you can't properly articulate a single thought. 1. looks like you are form that group that learned to start your post with a blaming. you should team up with the other guy who comes from the "end a post with a blaming" group. 2. give this man 100 points. btw you can check by just looking at the header of a post.... strange that you didnt find this out yet after 500 posts. 3. i dont talk over a right in terms of law. how can i talk over right in terms of law when i talk over right to make a law?
Sorry if english isn't your first language and you're a bit handicapped, but take the extra time you need to make a post that's actually comprehensible will you? I have no idea what that last sentence is supposed to mean.
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If it'd be up to me. I'd rather ban the making of movies like HC.
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I bet the book is better than the movie
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Sounds like good material for Cannibal Corpse to write a new song.
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Banning doesn't always means it will get tons of views. Do you remember a movie called Grotesque? Probably not, and it was just recently banned in the UK as well. And still no one knows about it. Banned movies are common, not all of them gets attention. This one is just better at marketing as shown in the second video on the OP. It's getting some attention because of their marketing, not just because it's getting banned.
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On June 08 2011 07:44 zobz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 07:38 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 07:32 Olinim wrote:On June 08 2011 07:15 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 07:11 Klaus1986 wrote:On June 08 2011 07:05 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:56 Sindsygafnatur wrote:On June 08 2011 06:49 skeldark wrote:On June 08 2011 06:42 Sindsygafnatur wrote:On June 08 2011 06:40 skeldark wrote:
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not watching it makes you dangerous! but that you WANT to watch such shit means you ARE dangerous! I heard about this movie...where someone kills another person, just because he's evil and mean. Have you seen it? you dont get the difference about a movie where someone shot someone and a movie where they show how people are tortured in detail? Okay so movies involving torture should be banned because they make people dangerous. Are there other unpleasant things we should be sheltered from? How about people being mean to each other? People who don't wash their hands after they pee? God they make me wanna blow shit up! I never say it makes you dangerous. a child perhaps... if you want to watch this you are allready dangerous. The majority have the right to deny rights. that why we make laws. To deny rights of minority to the better good of all. Only because there is a law dont mean it must be good. we should ask ourself every time if our rules are good or if we need new rules. But there is no overall problem on denying something, our society base on this. So i say the right of many to live secure is more worth than the right of few who likes to watch how people get torture. The danger that this ill people will harm someone more likely because they see such movies is small but still big enough to deny them this right. I can understand that people want to give them the right to watch this. even if they are dangerous watching this movie must not mean the start to act like this. But i think the little chance is enough. This may be the dumbest post I have ever read in my entire life. The majority have absolutely no right to determine what is acceptable to a minority and indeed is one of the founding aspects of democracy everywhere. To protect minority rights is paramount. You are a dunce. so we dont have to right to deny a person the right to kill someone? we dont have the right to make laws and rules? We determine whats acceptable with every law we write. we do this everyday our hole life in every social group. we make rules. this is how society works. this have nothing to do with democracy at all. one of the rules of democracy is that we everyone have the kind of the same rights. not that everyone have all rights. perhaps you misunderstand my use of the word minority. i don't mean a special group i mean the group who want to break the rule. im sorry when i dont end with a blaming. i know that for people like you this is normal and social standard. and you know what? Here you perhaps have the right to do so. I would give it to you because you right of speaking like you want is in this case more worth than my right of not being blamed. you have to weigh, every time... ;') 1. Your posts are unbelievably stupid. 2. I don't believe English is your first language, though on account of 1 it's not impossible. 3. You don't understand what a "right" is at least in terms of law. Either that or your comprehension of the English language is so abysmal you can't properly articulate a single thought. 1. looks like you are form that group that learned to start your post with a blaming. you should team up with the other guy who comes from the "end a post with a blaming" group. 2. give this man 100 points. btw you can check by just looking at the header of a post.... strange that you didnt find this out yet after 500 posts. 3. i dont talk over a right in terms of law. how can i talk over right in terms of law when i talk over right to make a law? Sorry if english isn't your first language and you're a bit handicapped, but take the extra time you need to make a post that's actually comprehensible will you? I have no idea what that last sentence is supposed to mean.
Why are you sorry for that? im not sorry for you that English is your first language.
if you dont understand nr 3, it have nothing to do with language^^
Anyways i wanted to give some arguments why its not a violence of freedom of speach or art if you ban this movie. I have the feeling my english is just to bad to make my points clear.
And i have the feeling most of the guys here are to young and to be honest just not able to make such a discussion. it was a mistake to start it. TL is not the place for stuff like this.
So sorry for my interruption. go on with "yeah freedom of speech" "shit movie".....
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I think I heard the Academy sound effect (the scream) at the end of the second trailer.
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On June 08 2011 07:46 Bleak wrote:
Sounds like good material for Cannibal Corpse to write a new song.
True! I wonder why their music haven't been banned, if you follow the logic of the people who agree with the ban on the movie. http://www.darklyrics.com/c/cannibalcorpse.html awesome stuff.
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On June 08 2011 07:50 Sindsygafnatur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 07:46 Bleak wrote:
Sounds like good material for Cannibal Corpse to write a new song. True! I wonder why their music haven't been banned, if you follow the logic of the people who agree with the ban on the movie. http://www.darklyrics.com/c/cannibalcorpse.html awesome stuff.
Their lyrics are almost as good as their music. Quality writing right there.
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On June 08 2011 07:45 Manit0u wrote:
If it'd be up to me. I'd rather ban the making of movies like HC.
I totally agree. I mean... this, just the concept makes me sick. How sick you must have be to think of something so horrible. And then film it. Want to make money that way. It's disgusting!
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You're telling me that people are sexually aroused by this? WTF...
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