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Keep it civil guys.
Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans.
The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.
Confirmation was as follows
- On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive.
- photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis
- confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.
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On May 02 2011 14:15 JeBi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:49 Roe wrote:On May 02 2011 13:47 JeBi wrote:
Osama's been dead for the better part of a decade... wonder why they're pulling his corpse off the ice now... hmm..... Oh really? How do you know that? I'd love for you to fill me in on all the information you've known that's led you to conclude that he's been dead for a decade. I'm not here to prove anything to anybody. I just enjoy being spit on because my opinion and my information rarely lines up with what the big shiny screen and the men in suits so adamantly inform us. Adds some spice to the thread: "US Newsbreak: Obama kills Osama!!!!! ALL IS WELL!!!! post1: YAY im so happy i can start masturbating again :D :D :D yay!!!!! post2: OMGZZzzz guys Obama is the man. post3: This is such good news, i'm glad we can finally come home and stop massacring hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the effort to find this guy... oh wait, no we cant... oh well STILL AMAZING NEWS post4: Hey guys.... pretty sure this guy's been dead for years..... every video since 2004 has an completely different guy than the original with a different voice... why is this news now? post5: FUCK YOU #4 MOTHERFUCKER!!!! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW?!?!?! MY TV AND GOVERNMENT NEVER LIES TO ME AND THEY JUST TOLD ME HE DIED SO WHY SHOULD I NOT BELIEVE THEM?!?!?!!? WHERE'S YOUR proof DOGGAMNIT?!?!?!! psshhh loser! post6: TV says be happy, I be happy  "
That's cool. Just don't say that it's the truth. Keep it to yourself and believe you're right, "just because" you say so. I could play that game too. "Obama is actually an alien, and I know that it's true because I said so. I don't need to prove anything to anybody. I just enjoy being different than everybody else."
Well, that's a great fairy tale, but there's no good reason to believe in what you say. To quote a great essayist of our day "what can be asserted without proof, can be dismissed without proof".
Just because most of the US is fairly dull minded doesn't mean your contrarian statements are true. It's also quite evident that you have no real argument from the poor ad hominem attack you tried on me in post 5.
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On May 02 2011 14:17 Jman5 wrote:
If only Osama didn't have an account on PSN.
LOL that's great. I do really wonder how they finally got a solid lead on him though. A mole? A tip from a defector? A chance witness? I wonder if we'll ever truly know the whole story, or even if it will matter after the inevitable Hollywood dramatization comes out in 2013 starring Matt Damon.
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On May 02 2011 14:15 JeBi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:49 Roe wrote:On May 02 2011 13:47 JeBi wrote:
Osama's been dead for the better part of a decade... wonder why they're pulling his corpse off the ice now... hmm..... Oh really? How do you know that? I'd love for you to fill me in on all the information you've known that's led you to conclude that he's been dead for a decade. I'm not here to prove anything to anybody. I just enjoy being spit on because my opinion and my information rarely line up with what the big shiny screen and the men in suits so adamantly inform us. Adds some spice to the thread: "US Newsbreak: Obama kills Osama!!!!! ALL IS WELL!!!! post1: YAY im so happy i can start masturbating again :D :D :D yay!!!!! post2: OMGZZzzz guys Obama is the man. post3: This is such good news, i'm glad we can finally come home and stop massacring hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the effort to find this guy... oh wait, no we cant... oh well STILL AMAZING NEWS post4: Hey guys.... pretty sure this guy's been dead for years..... every video since 2004 has an completely different guy than the original with a different voice... why is this news now? post5: FUCK YOU #4 MOTHERFUCKER!!!! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW?!?!?! MY TV AND GOVERNMENT NEVER LIES TO ME AND THEY JUST TOLD ME HE DIED SO WHY SHOULD I NOT BELIEVE THEM?!?!?!!? WHERE'S YOUR proof DOGGAMNIT?!?!?!! psshhh loser! post6: TV says be happy, I be happy "
Uhmmm, wtf are you talking about?
You should prolly chill out buddy.
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Sorry but I will need to see a death certificate
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On May 02 2011 14:19 OsoVega wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 14:18 JinDesu wrote:On May 02 2011 14:15 EchoZ wrote:
10 years, 2 wars, 919,967 deaths, $1,188,263,000,000 later, all for one man. Was it worth it? I suppose the thousands of other insurgents killed don't count, do they? Or the removal of the Taliban. Iraq is largely unrelated to 9/11 but it is much better off today than it was under Saddam.
i wouldn't quite go that far, while yes you couldn't speak out against saddam, people were able to live their lives in relative normality and safety.
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Hmm...I just read a facebook post from one of my Pakistani Muslim friends:
To kill the person who is responsible for thousands of deaths, we have killed hundreds of thousands innocents in Pak n Afgh.
We killed Usama after 10 years, a billion dollars and a million deaths.
Using him as an excuse, several drone attacks hv been made in several cities of Pak, lands and lives hv been taken from Afgh.
Fair, nae?
Obviously a bias exists for him, and his viewpoint still may not be truly holistic, but this seems to be the truth, right? Anything response to that?
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Hi everyone,
Ill go straight to the point. I understand why every american is happy about the Bin Laden's death. By his orders, thousands of americans were killed almost 11 years ago. All of the sudden many people seems to justify the war in middle east by the death of one man. But I encourage you to see things out of the box starting by watching this TED conference:http://www.ted.com/talks/sam_richards_a_radical_experiment_in_empathy.html . In fact, this war did a LOT more innocents casualties overseas compared to 9/11 over many years. I think we should put our selfs in the shoes of some middle east resident and try to understand their frustration against us. I will never come close to excuse any terrorist act. But the U.S and many other countries including mine, Canada, pull pressure on rich in oil countries to steal their resources without ever caring about the wealth of the population living in said countries. We did that for many decades now and I think we should never rejoice of any human death there. I have mixed feelings right now... I don't know if I should be happy or ashamed regarding of what we did as a great nation in this part of the world.
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On May 02 2011 14:17 Jman5 wrote:
If only Osama didn't have an account on PSN.
haha that explains it :D
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On May 02 2011 14:15 JeBi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 13:49 Roe wrote:On May 02 2011 13:47 JeBi wrote:
Osama's been dead for the better part of a decade... wonder why they're pulling his corpse off the ice now... hmm..... Oh really? How do you know that? I'd love for you to fill me in on all the information you've known that's led you to conclude that he's been dead for a decade. I'm not here to prove anything to anybody. I just enjoy being spit on because my opinion and my information rarely line up with what the big shiny screen and the men in suits so adamantly inform us. Adds some spice to the thread: "US Newsbreak: Obama kills Osama!!!!! ALL IS WELL!!!! post1: YAY im so happy i can start masturbating again :D :D :D yay!!!!! post2: OMGZZzzz guys Obama is the man. post3: This is such good news, i'm glad we can finally come home and stop massacring hundreds of thousands of innocent people in the effort to find this guy... oh wait, no we cant... oh well STILL AMAZING NEWS post4: Hey guys.... pretty sure this guy's been dead for years..... every video since 2004 has an completely different guy than the original with a different voice... why is this news now? post5: FUCK YOU #4 MOTHERFUCKER!!!! WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU KNOW?!?!?! MY TV AND GOVERNMENT NEVER LIES TO ME AND THEY JUST TOLD ME HE DIED SO WHY SHOULD I NOT BELIEVE THEM?!?!?!!? WHERE'S YOUR proof DOGGAMNIT?!?!?!! psshhh loser! post6: TV says be happy, I be happy "
I dunno dude.. Tasteless' voice went to hell in about a year. Are you telling me Tasteless isn't Tasteless? OMG! NO WAY!
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On May 02 2011 14:21 polysciguy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 14:19 OsoVega wrote:On May 02 2011 14:18 JinDesu wrote:On May 02 2011 14:15 EchoZ wrote:
10 years, 2 wars, 919,967 deaths, $1,188,263,000,000 later, all for one man. Was it worth it? I suppose the thousands of other insurgents killed don't count, do they? Or the removal of the Taliban. Iraq is largely unrelated to 9/11 but it is much better off today than it was under Saddam. i wouldn't quite go that far, while yes you couldn't speak out against saddam, people were able to live their lives in relative normality and safety.
Define those terms, and you'll find it hard to keep that argument going. You should also see the deaths he caused of his own as well as Iranian people.
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Zlasher, I'm going to send you a camera.
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On May 02 2011 14:22 Pengtoss wrote:Hmm...I just read a facebook post from one of my Pakistani Muslim friends: Show nested quote +To kill the person who is responsible for thousands of deaths, we have killed hundreds of thousands innocents in Pak n Afgh.
We killed Usama after 10 years, a billion dollars and a million deaths.
Using him as an excuse, several drone attacks hv been made in several cities of Pak, lands and lives hv been taken from Afgh.
Fair, nae? Obviously a bias exists for him, but this seems to be the truth, right? Anything response to that?
There is nothing anyone can do about it. Civilian casualties WILL happen no matter what war.
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america is the last superpower. we can reach out and touch anyone. USA! USA! USA!
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On May 02 2011 14:23 JinDesu wrote:Zlasher, I'm going to send you a camera.
Rofl, I only have a flip cam but I actually came straight from work and walked to the white house so I didn't bother to pick it up. I'm sure you guys will see more pictures on the internet coming up, but it was pretty ridiculous, there was just a jam packed section from Madison to Jackson avenue, and it even extended onto Lafayette Square (for those of you who don't understand how big that is look it up on google images or google maps)
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I'm sad to see people actively celebrating a person's death.
Sure, we're talking about Bin Laden, who deserved (harsh) punishment and evaded being brought to justice long enough. The world will probably be a better place with less people like him. That doesn't justify people singing and parading in the street, though.
And his death won't change anything. It won't change the difficult US international relations, the post-war development in Afghanistan and Iraq, the tensions in Pakistan and northern Africa. It's been 10 years since 9/11 and for all we know, Bin Laden hasn't done any serious scheming or plotting since then and has posed much less of a threat for the US and the world than many other dangerous individuals in the world.
It's ok to be glad that this particular chapter of history has found an ending, but that's it. People celebrating and chanting "USA, USA" because somewhere on the other side of the globe, a man was killed (who did horrible things 10 years ago but has long since been surpassed in atrocities by others) ... I find that a little bit absurd.
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On May 02 2011 14:22 Pengtoss wrote:Hmm...I just read a facebook post from one of my Pakistani Muslim friends: Show nested quote +To kill the person who is responsible for thousands of deaths, we have killed hundreds of thousands innocents in Pak n Afgh.
We killed Usama after 10 years, a billion dollars and a million deaths.
Using him as an excuse, several drone attacks hv been made in several cities of Pak, lands and lives hv been taken from Afgh.
Fair, nae? Obviously a bias exists for him, but this seems to be the truth, right? Anything response to that?
Ask your friend why the Pakistani government spent 10 years hiding him? They could have handed him over years ago, or done the job they were supposed to do in the Battle of Tora Bora and this could have all been avoided.
Pakistan has been complicit in hiding this guy and a Pakistani person is in no position to criticize.
Pakistan's ISI is a terrorist organization.
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You know what's scary?
I'm sorta scared for Obama. We really don't know what Muslim extremists are capable of, what if they try to assassinate Obama as a form of retaliation?
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On May 02 2011 14:23 Roe wrote:Show nested quote +On May 02 2011 14:21 polysciguy wrote:On May 02 2011 14:19 OsoVega wrote:On May 02 2011 14:18 JinDesu wrote:On May 02 2011 14:15 EchoZ wrote:
10 years, 2 wars, 919,967 deaths, $1,188,263,000,000 later, all for one man. Was it worth it? I suppose the thousands of other insurgents killed don't count, do they? Or the removal of the Taliban. Iraq is largely unrelated to 9/11 but it is much better off today than it was under Saddam. i wouldn't quite go that far, while yes you couldn't speak out against saddam, people were able to live their lives in relative normality and safety. Define those terms, and you'll find it hard to keep that argument going. You should also see the deaths he caused of his own as well as Iranian people.
you didn't have freedom of speech, but saddam's government being secular, they didn't have sharia law in place. it may be better now that we are withdrawing i don't know i haven't kept up on the situation, i do know that 2 years ago people would rather have had saddam in power because they didn't need to be afraid to go outside, women didn't need to be afraid of being beaten by extremists because they were driving to work.
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