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Ryhn
Profile Joined February 2010
United States509 Posts
April 27 2011 15:11 GMT
#101
CVC codes are what, three digits?

0 - 9

There are only 10^3 possible combinations of numbers to make up a CVC code.

A mere 1,000.

I don't use credit cards very often, but what is the limit on payment attempts with a bad CVC code?
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Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
April 27 2011 15:11 GMT
#102
On April 27 2011 22:38 Munk-E wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 22:35 Arnstein wrote:
The hackers have said that they only did this to hurt Sony, and wouldn't harm any of the PS owners.

Do you have a source on this?
I think that canceling your credit card might be a bit extreme, if they really have 77 million, what are they going to do with yours? Also it says they don't have your security code.


You don't need the security code for a lot of purchases. It depends mostly on how strict the company you're buying from is on determining if the person giving the info is the actual card holder. I worked at a call center that accepted orders over the phone for awhile and if someone couldn't read the 3 digit number (or was too stupid to find it) you could just put a N in that field and the order would still go through just fine.

Really depends on how picky the system is that the purchase is being made through.


And yes, Sony would have the main CC numbers stored somewhere, if for no other reason than to be able to verify/do refunds for fraudulent purchases.

in response to CTStalker, isn't PSN one of those one-stop-shop kind of things where you can just click purchase and buy something, without having to enter your credit card number each time?
Yes, this is an option. You can, of course, opt to not have the info saved and just re-enter it for each purchase.


No matter what, it's a huge blow to Sony. They've been struggling to catch up to Microsoft in every region that isn't Japan ever since launch, and had been making some decent progress lately. Completely negated for a lot of people, now. Sony always struck me as having the better hardware to Microsoft's better software (shit that doesn't break much/is reliable, but is kinda clunky to use vs. stuff that breaks constantly but has a better interface).
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
April 27 2011 15:11 GMT
#103
On April 28 2011 00:00 Ganjamaster wrote:
LOL at ordering food with a stolen credit card number, how ridiculously poor and grimy you have to be haha

About as poor and grimy as you would be if you were stealing credit cards in the first place. Haha let's laugh at poor people, Ganjamaster. It's unfortunate that not everyone has the excess income to smoke weed and post condescending things on the internet that are directed at no one in particular, being a hypothetical situation as it were.
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eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
April 27 2011 15:14 GMT
#104
Way to sensationalize.

If you aren't clueless, it's not hard to change a few passwords and keep an eye on your CC activity. All other personal information of yours can be pretty much stolen by a hacker at anytime.

Shit happens, hope it gets back up soon so I can play some MK9. Other than that, this is hardly phasing to me.
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
April 27 2011 15:14 GMT
#105
On April 28 2011 00:11 Ryhn wrote:
CVC codes are what, three digits?

0 - 9

There are only 10^3 possible combinations of numbers to make up a CVC code.

A mere 1,000.

I don't use credit cards very often, but what is the limit on payment attempts with a bad CVC code?


Not sure, but I'd like to think that a large number of failed transactions sends up a red flag.
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razorsuKe
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2053 Posts
April 27 2011 15:15 GMT
#106
On April 27 2011 23:38 Ganjamaster wrote:
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On April 27 2011 23:28 razorsuKe wrote:
On April 27 2011 22:42 Ganjamaster wrote:
On April 27 2011 22:39 razorsuKe wrote:
You guys actually used your real information?

I had a bad feeling typing in shit on a console so my info is 100% made up, what's the point in giving your real info anyways? Not like they need to send you shit.


Unless you gave your bank the same fake information (which is a federal crime), how on earth are you going to buy products of the PSN store if your account has fake bank information?


I don't give my bank information to anyone, I do online purchases with a credit card specially reserved for online purchases so it can be cancelled anytime without affecting the rest of my life.

Plus I believe you can buy those PSN money cards at game stores.

From what I remember (it's been a while since I bought anything off PSN) it was a separate entry for purchases since I could be using someone's else's card anyways.


It does not matter if it was a separate entry or not, whatever information you used for any purchase whatsoever is stored in the system.

You can have whatever amount of alternate credit cards, the fact remains that whichever you gave to PSN the hackers now have.


yeah, and I'm simply saying that I don't care since my personal info is all fake and my credit card is easily cancel-able at any time.
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Kenderson
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada280 Posts
April 27 2011 15:16 GMT
#107
I bet it was Microsoft
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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
April 27 2011 15:16 GMT
#108
On April 28 2011 00:11 Ryhn wrote:
CVC codes are what, three digits?

0 - 9

There are only 10^3 possible combinations of numbers to make up a CVC code.

A mere 1,000.

I don't use credit cards very often, but what is the limit on payment attempts with a bad CVC code?

don't know but if the average cvc requires 500 attempts then there's no way in hell brute forcing is feasible, it must be way below that
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
April 27 2011 15:17 GMT
#109
On April 28 2011 00:16 Kenderson wrote:
I bet it was Microsoft
That would make a lot of sense
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Ganjamaster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Argentina475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 15:20:39
April 27 2011 15:17 GMT
#110
On April 28 2011 00:11 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 00:00 Ganjamaster wrote:
LOL at ordering food with a stolen credit card number, how ridiculously poor and grimy you have to be haha

About as poor and grimy as you would be if you were stealing credit cards in the first place. Haha let's laugh at poor people, Ganjamaster. It's unfortunate that not everyone has the excess income to smoke weed and post condescending things on the internet that are directed at no one in particular, being a hypothetical situation as it were.


Haha dude cmon, you are going to go through all the trouble of buying a computer, learning how to hack one of the most powerful corporations in the world in order to cop some free pizza off campus food.. give me a break, you have to be pretty damn cheap to do that.

And I am not laughing at the poor people in the world at all, in fact quite the contrary, but it seems in this world every time you use the term "poor" it has to be condescendingly. I used it as a statement of fact. You have to be pretty damn poor to order food online off a stolen credit card, the same way you have to be pretty damn poor to be begging for change in the subway. These statements are not condescending, they are facts. I did not say "ROFL at people being poor and doing X" I said "ROFL at people stealing credit cards to buy food online".
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Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
April 27 2011 15:19 GMT
#111
Wow that is crazy. Really happy I don't have a PS3 and Sony is in deep shit now.
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Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
April 27 2011 15:24 GMT
#112
Hmm. My hotmail, yahoo, and WoW accounts all got hacked on this past Saturday. Makes me wonder if these guys were to blame using my psn info to find out stuff. Either way i'm super pissed since i've been getting raped by hackers lately. Seriously. You hack my WoW account worth 1200+ and now this shit. I'm ready to abandon technology all together and go fucking get a spear and kill some boars see if i level up cause this stuff is plain stupid now.

Starcraft 2 is the only thing that makes me want to use a computer/technology.
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Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
April 27 2011 15:25 GMT
#113
On April 28 2011 00:11 Ryhn wrote:
CVC codes are what, three digits?

0 - 9

There are only 10^3 possible combinations of numbers to make up a CVC code.

A mere 1,000.

I don't use credit cards very often, but what is the limit on payment attempts with a bad CVC code?


A wrong pin will fail 3 times then it locks the card up. I'm assuming the same with a security code. At least i hope. Makes me seriously consider getting a new debit card from my bank now. Guess i'll keep a close eye on my transactions for awhile.
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
April 27 2011 15:26 GMT
#114
On April 28 2011 00:17 Ganjamaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 00:11 Murderotica wrote:
On April 28 2011 00:00 Ganjamaster wrote:
LOL at ordering food with a stolen credit card number, how ridiculously poor and grimy you have to be haha

About as poor and grimy as you would be if you were stealing credit cards in the first place. Haha let's laugh at poor people, Ganjamaster. It's unfortunate that not everyone has the excess income to smoke weed and post condescending things on the internet that are directed at no one in particular, being a hypothetical situation as it were.


Haha dude cmon, you are going to go through all the trouble of buying a computer, learning how to hack one of the most powerful corporations in the world in order to cop some free pizza off campus food.. give me a break, you have to be pretty damn cheap to do that.

And I am not laughing at the poor people in the world at all, in fact quite the contrary, but it seems in this world every time you use the term "poor" it has to be condescendingly. I used it as a statement of fact. You have to be pretty damn poor to order food online off a stolen credit card, the same way you have to be pretty damn poor to be begging for change in the subway. These statements are not condescending, they are facts. I did not say "ROFL at people being poor and doing X" I said "ROFL at people stealing credit cards to buy food online".

I thought you were referring to my statement that if I had stolen a credit card number (which would not be through hacking) I would use it to buy food because I know I don't have to have a SN. Like I said though, I imagine you can get stuff from other places with just that. At the very least, I know I can get cigarettes -_-; and I would def. buy like 5 cartons.

You said poor AND grimy, how can I not see it as a negative connotation? You have to be pretty damn douche to call people trying to survive 'grimy'. This statement is not condescending, it's fact.
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TurmoilFish
Profile Joined April 2011
2 Posts
April 27 2011 15:28 GMT
#115
So what if they use a credit card to buy food online? You act like they should buy something big and expensive and risk themselves getting caught.
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
April 27 2011 15:28 GMT
#116
On April 28 2011 00:24 Engore wrote:
Hmm. My hotmail, yahoo, and WoW accounts all got hacked on this past Saturday. Makes me wonder if these guys were to blame using my psn info to find out stuff. Either way i'm super pissed since i've been getting raped by hackers lately. Seriously. You hack my WoW account worth 1200+ and now this shit. I'm ready to abandon technology all together and go fucking get a spear and kill some boars see if i level up cause this stuff is plain stupid now.

Starcraft 2 is the only thing that makes me want to use a computer/technology.


Get an Authenticator for your Battle.net account and make sure your passwords are diverse...don't use the same password for every single account you own. That sounds like the situation here....and send a ticket to Blizzard on your WoW account. You'll get everything back, they're pretty good about it.
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DrunkApple
Profile Joined March 2011
34 Posts
April 27 2011 15:29 GMT
#117
people please. they hacked psn. getting your cvc is like one-push button work for them
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
April 27 2011 15:29 GMT
#118
On April 28 2011 00:24 Engore wrote:
Hmm. My hotmail, yahoo, and WoW accounts all got hacked on this past Saturday. Makes me wonder if these guys were to blame using my psn info to find out stuff. Either way i'm super pissed since i've been getting raped by hackers lately. Seriously. You hack my WoW account worth 1200+ and now this shit. I'm ready to abandon technology all together and go fucking get a spear and kill some boars see if i level up cause this stuff is plain stupid now.

Starcraft 2 is the only thing that makes me want to use a computer/technology.

You get +1 strength +1 dexterity and +10 manliness. However you also get -10 to WoW-induced-paleness and -10 to fear of leaving the house. Social awkwardness stays the same because killing boars unfortunately is no longer a staple subject of conversation with others. GLHFDD
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
April 27 2011 15:30 GMT
#119
On April 28 2011 00:28 TurmoilFish wrote:
So what if they use a credit card to buy food online? You act like they should buy something big and expensive and risk themselves getting caught.

Use the quote function, I was confused for a minute about whether or not you were referring to me.
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Engore
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1916 Posts
April 27 2011 15:31 GMT
#120
On April 28 2011 00:28 Synystyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2011 00:24 Engore wrote:
Hmm. My hotmail, yahoo, and WoW accounts all got hacked on this past Saturday. Makes me wonder if these guys were to blame using my psn info to find out stuff. Either way i'm super pissed since i've been getting raped by hackers lately. Seriously. You hack my WoW account worth 1200+ and now this shit. I'm ready to abandon technology all together and go fucking get a spear and kill some boars see if i level up cause this stuff is plain stupid now.

Starcraft 2 is the only thing that makes me want to use a computer/technology.


Get an Authenticator for your Battle.net account and make sure your passwords are diverse...don't use the same password for every single account you own. That sounds like the situation here....and send a ticket to Blizzard on your WoW account. You'll get everything back, they're pretty good about it.


Well i don't play WoW anymore, which is the reason i don't invest in an authenticator (plus r/l friends have trouble with them all the time). I'll admit the yahoo/hotmail weren't very different but my WoW account was supremely weird for the password. And ya my wow account is still banned due to the investigation.
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