On April 28 2011 11:55 Subversion wrote:
Was this Anonymous' work?
Was this Anonymous' work?
Anon would never do something that breaches user privacy. It's actually what they fight against.
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jstar
Canada568 Posts
On April 28 2011 11:55 Subversion wrote: Was this Anonymous' work? Anon would never do something that breaches user privacy. It's actually what they fight against. | ||
whiterabbit
2675 Posts
Anyway, I can't remember which info was required by PSN for account creation, standard stuff like Name, Country, Address, Mail? If that's the case, then hackers got information that is available on Facebook pages of most of those 77 mil of people. CC info is different stuff tho. | ||
vertigo1
Scotland174 Posts
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
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Vortok
United States830 Posts
If anything, it's taking so long to come back up because the guys that are rebuilding the PSN are finding it hard to code quickly while constantly facepalming. Of course wasn't Microsoft, Nintendo, or even a company within the industry. The shit storm that would happen if someone could prove it isn't even remotely worth the risk - especially since both of those companies are already beating Sony pretty handily at the moment. | ||
Nowanda
Germany5 Posts
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Qzy
Denmark1121 Posts
Easy. | ||
RvB
Netherlands6187 Posts
On April 28 2011 18:24 whiterabbit wrote: Long time since I used PS3 and PSN but I am sad to hear they and 77mil of people got pwn't by incompetence. Anyway, I can't remember which info was required by PSN for account creation, standard stuff like Name, Country, Address, Mail? If that's the case, then hackers got information that is available on Facebook pages of most of those 77 mil of people. CC info is different stuff tho. Just received an e-mail from sony about it, naam, adres (stad, provincie, postcode), land, e-mail adres, geboortedatum, PlayStation Network/Qriocity wachtwoord en login en gebruikersnaam/PSN online id. so thats: name, adress ( city, province, postcode), country, e-mail, date of birth PSN pass and log in and PSN online ID. | ||
JackDragon
525 Posts
On April 28 2011 20:21 Qzy wrote: The disadvantage of monopoly: Everything is stored 1 place... Support pc, not consoles. Easy. This is not really a good argument for PC vs consoles because this could as well happen to any company selling stuff over the net. Hell just think aout WoW subscribers. Hackers could get that aswell. If blizzard had as bad security as PSN have that is. So yeah, support secure transactions and not Sony. | ||
Tippereth
United States252 Posts
On April 28 2011 16:53 jstar wrote: Anon would never do something that breaches user privacy. It's actually what they fight against. It's funny that you think a bunch of twelve year old Japanophiles have any type of cohesive philosophy. God I'm so sick of this Anonymous-is-cogent crap. How can people be this bad at the Internet? | ||
Qzy
Denmark1121 Posts
On April 28 2011 20:27 JackDragon wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2011 20:21 Qzy wrote: The disadvantage of monopoly: Everything is stored 1 place... Support pc, not consoles. Easy. This is not really a good argument for PC vs consoles because this could as well happen to any company selling stuff over the net. Hell just think aout WoW subscribers. Hackers could get that aswell. If blizzard had as bad security as PSN have that is. So yeah, support secure transactions and not Sony. It's not a question of PC vs console, it's a question of monopoly. It's gray-area-illegal and should not be supported. | ||
Tschis
Brazil1511 Posts
On April 28 2011 20:33 Tippereth wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2011 16:53 jstar wrote: On April 28 2011 11:55 Subversion wrote: Was this Anonymous' work? Anon would never do something that breaches user privacy. It's actually what they fight against. It's funny that you think a bunch of twelve year old Japanophiles have any type of cohesive philosophy. God I'm so sick of this Anonymous-is-cogent crap. How can people be this bad at the Internet? How can you? | ||
Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
On April 28 2011 19:23 Vortok wrote: On the bright side, once all this shit is done with it's all but guaranteed that Sony will be making sure they're massively more secure. I doubt that's going to comfort any PS3 owner. | ||
vertigo1
Scotland174 Posts
the only people screwed are actually the paying customers. | ||
DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
But it won't hopefully | ||
SpaceFighting
New Zealand690 Posts
also...im assuming the ps3 vs. xbox thing is settled now? xD not a fanboy of both kuz sc2 is ftw...but just sayin, 360 fanboys are gunna crush the ps3 ones xD | ||
Sneddo
United States277 Posts
On April 28 2011 20:50 vertigo1 wrote: thing that i find ironic is the people who deliberately didnt update firmware so they can run pirate wares on the console and circumvent the security, are all fine. the only people screwed are actually the paying customers. That's pretty much always the case, nothing new about it. I'm not surprised this happened to Sony at all, anything connected to the internet is not secured. You can make it very secure and encrypt the data, but hackers can still get to that data. The thing that kills security teams in companies is phishing emails. With those simple phishing emails, they can then plant backdoors and traps to gain access into the employee's machine, then they can work there way up to get an admin password and etc. A lot of people are being exposed right now and we will only see more. RSA was caught by a simple phishing attempt on their employees, Krogers got all their customer's names and emails stolen..... The funny thing is people are reacting that it took Sony a week to find out what was stolen... At the company I work at now, we still find traces of data that was stolen last year... The CERT team here was only started about 3 years ago, so they are still trying to go through thousands of servers. The company is starting to really invest in security, as they do realize we are having million dollar blueprints stolen from China and Russia. | ||
Enki
United States2548 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + =================================== PlayStation(R)Network =================================== Valued PlayStation(R)Network/Qriocity Customer: We have discovered that between April 17 and April 19, 2011, certain PlayStation Network and Qriocity service user account information was compromised in connection with an illegal and unauthorized intrusion into our network. In response to this intrusion, we have: 1) Temporarily turned off PlayStation Network and Qriocity services; 2) Engaged an outside, recognized security firm to conduct a full and complete investigation into what happened; and 3) Quickly taken steps to enhance security and strengthen our network infrastructure by rebuilding our system to provide you with greater protection of your personal information. We greatly appreciate your patience, understanding and goodwill as we do whatever it takes to resolve these issues as quickly and efficiently as practicable. Although we are still investigating the details of this incident, we believe that an unauthorized person has obtained the following information that you provided: name, address (city, state, zip), country, email address, birthdate, PlayStation Network/Qriocity password and login, and handle/PSN online ID. It is also possible that your profile data, including purchase history and billing address (city, state, zip), and your PlayStation Network/Qriocity password security answers may have been obtained. If you have authorized a sub-account for your dependent, the same data with respect to your dependent may have been obtained. While there is no evidence at this time that credit card data was taken, we cannot rule out the possibility. If you have provided your credit card data through PlayStation Network or Qriocity, out of an abundance of caution we are advising you that your credit card number (excluding security code) and expiration date may have been obtained. For your security, we encourage you to be especially aware of email, telephone and postal mail scams that ask for personal or sensitive information. Sony will not contact you in any way, including by email, asking for your credit card number, social security number or other personally identifiable information. If you are asked for this information, you can be confident Sony is not the entity asking. When the PlayStation Network and Qriocity services are fully restored, we strongly recommend that you log on and change your password. Additionally, if you use your PlayStation Network or Qriocity user name or password for other unrelated services or accounts, we strongly recommend that you change them as well. To protect against possible identity theft or other financial loss, we encourage you to remain vigilant, to review your account statements and to monitor your credit reports. We are providing the following information for those who wish to consider it: - U.S. residents are entitled under U.S. law to one free credit report annually from each of the three major credit bureaus. To order your free credit report, visit www.annualcreditreport.com or call toll-free (877) 322-8228. - We have also provided names and contact information for the three major U.S. credit bureaus below. At no charge, U.S. residents can have these credit bureaus place a "fraud alert" on your file that alerts creditors to take additional steps to verify your identity prior to granting credit in your name. This service can make it more difficult for someone to get credit in your name. Note, however, that because it tells creditors to follow certain procedures to protect you, it also may delay your ability to obtain credit while the agency verifies your identity. As soon as one credit bureau confirms your fraud alert, the others are notified to place fraud alerts on your file. Should you wish to place a fraud alert, or should you have any questions regarding your credit report, please contact any one of the agencies listed below: Experian: 888-397-3742; www.experian.com; P.O. Box 9532, Allen, TX 75013 Equifax: 800-525-6285; www.equifax.com; P.O. Box 740241, Atlanta, GA 30374-0241 TransUnion: 800-680-7289; www.transunion.com; Fraud Victim Assistance Division, P.O. Box 6790, Fullerton, CA 92834-6790 - You may wish to visit the website of the U.S. Federal Trade Commission at www.consumer.gov/idtheft or reach the FTC at 1-877-382-4357 or 600 Pennsylvania Avenue, NW, Washington, DC 20580 for further information about how to protect yourself from identity theft. Your state Attorney General may also have advice on preventing identity theft, and you should report instances of known or suspected identity theft to law enforcement, your State Attorney General, and the FTC. For North Carolina residents, the Attorney General can be contacted at 9001 Mail Service Center, Raleigh, NC 27699-9001; telephone (877) 566-7226; or www.ncdoj.gov. For Maryland residents, the Attorney General can be contacted at 200 St. Paul Place, 16th Floor, Baltimore, MD 21202; telephone: (888) 743-0023; or www.oag.state.md.us. We thank you for your patience as we complete our investigation of this incident, and we regret any inconvenience. Our teams are working around the clock on this, and services will be restored as soon as possible. Sony takes information protection very seriously and will continue to work to ensure that additional measures are taken to protect personally identifiable information. Providing quality and secure entertainment services to our customers is our utmost priority. Please contact us at 1-800-345-7669 should you have any additional questions. Sincerely, Sony Computer Entertainment and Sony Network Entertainment Meh....gonna be calling my bank later on to get my credit card changed now I guess. :/ | ||
Roeder
Denmark735 Posts
On April 28 2011 16:53 jstar wrote: Anon would never do something that breaches user privacy. It's actually what they fight against. You don't think one of them has their sticky fingers on the creditcard database? They might 'fight' some good causes (love the Westboro and Scientology), but don't see all of them as complete saints. They're anonymously - with good comes bad. On April 28 2011 21:23 SpaceFighting wrote: also...im assuming the ps3 vs. xbox thing is settled now? xD not a fanboy of both kuz sc2 is ftw...but just sayin, 360 fanboys are gunna crush the ps3 ones xD Why is that? Despite the security breach (which is outrageous and they should be spanked for it) - hardware wise and in general the PS3 beats the Xbox still, I think. Now this is nowhere near in this thread, so I'm just going to stop, but seriously. Don't even. | ||
JackDragon
525 Posts
On April 28 2011 20:42 Qzy wrote: Show nested quote + On April 28 2011 20:27 JackDragon wrote: On April 28 2011 20:21 Qzy wrote: The disadvantage of monopoly: Everything is stored 1 place... Support pc, not consoles. Easy. This is not really a good argument for PC vs consoles because this could as well happen to any company selling stuff over the net. Hell just think aout WoW subscribers. Hackers could get that aswell. If blizzard had as bad security as PSN have that is. So yeah, support secure transactions and not Sony. It's not a question of PC vs console, it's a question of monopoly. It's gray-area-illegal and should not be supported. I don't really see what that has with the topic to do then... and also it is a oligopoly not monopoly, which also is more or less the case for pc. | ||
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