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My friend convinced me earlier to switch to the Dvorak layout and I have been using it for a day now. I have simply changed my input language to Dvorak English and its quite fun learning to type all over again. I love how I cannot look at the keyboard and cheat. The thing about changing is that you will forget your qwerty and need to give Dvorak a lot of time.
Also its easy to use on other PCs. DvAssist lets you switch after a few clicks and you can take it with you. Also has a helpful thing that shows you the layout.
If you haven't tried it, give it a go if you have time!
I was wondering how many people have tried this and what their experience with this is and what happened.
I was also wondering how hard it gets for gaming with this layout.
Links:
Dvassist: http://www.clabs.org/blogki/index.cgi?page=/ComputersAndTechnology/DvAssist
Tutorials:
http://gigliwood.com/abcd/
http://learn.dvorak.nl/
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I tried this at work the other day just for fun. Cool to do but I couldn't get any work done because it took me about a minute to type a single sentence <.<
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I dont actually see the point, though. I mean, I'd like to think that my QWERTY typing skills are quite good now. Been able to type without looking since I was like 14, can type pretty quickly when I need to...
Why bother?
I guess in this case you seem to be doing it omre for fun, but I've read mnay times that eventually the DVORAK setup will be standard...
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On April 23 2011 11:13 Crazyeyes wrote:
I dont actually see the point, though. I mean, I'd like to think that my QWERTY typing skills are quite good now. Been able to type without looking since I was like 14, can type pretty quickly when I need to...
Why bother?
I guess in this case you seem to be doing it omre for fun, but I've read mnay times that eventually the DVORAK setup will be standard...
QWERTY is inefficient, and causes carpal tunnel and other typing strain problems. Plus, DVORAK is designed for speed, meaning you can type faster as well.
Great for people who type all day.
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I doubt it will ever be standard, people dislike changing habits. Also can go around saying Dvorak master race xD
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On April 23 2011 11:13 Crazyeyes wrote:
I dont actually see the point, though. I mean, I'd like to think that my QWERTY typing skills are quite good now. Been able to type without looking since I was like 14, can type pretty quickly when I need to...
Why bother?
I guess in this case you seem to be doing it omre for fun, but I've read mnay times that eventually the DVORAK setup will be standard...
QWERTY is designed to slow you down. It's an archaic layout that typewriters employed so you don't jam the keys by typing too fast. Since you can't really break your keyboard by typing too fast anymore, there really is no point of keeping QWERTY.
I've been looking to change to a more efficient layout, but then that would mean reassigning keys from games, and that's just damn annoying.
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You could actually look at the keyboard and cheat, if your keyboard has removable keys...
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Seeing as I already type 130 wpm on QWERTY, will I see an improvement on Dvorak? I tried switching about a year ago but it was too much work so I quit.
And also there's the issue of gaming.
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Uh, how am I gonna play Starcraft with that keyboard? Too much effort to learn for better efficiency? 
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On April 23 2011 11:37 The_LiNk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 11:13 Crazyeyes wrote:
I dont actually see the point, though. I mean, I'd like to think that my QWERTY typing skills are quite good now. Been able to type without looking since I was like 14, can type pretty quickly when I need to...
Why bother?
I guess in this case you seem to be doing it omre for fun, but I've read mnay times that eventually the DVORAK setup will be standard... QWERTY is designed to slow you down. It's an archaic layout that typewriters employed so you don't jam the keys by typing too fast. Since you can't really break your keyboard by typing too fast anymore, there really is no point of keeping QWERTY. I've been looking to change to a more efficient layout, but then that would mean reassigning keys from games, and that's just damn annoying.
Yeah, I knew that typewriter thing, and it makes sense.
Until you get used to it.
How is it that QWERTY causes carpal tunnel, but Dvorak doesn't? Does this make sense?
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On April 23 2011 11:54 Crazyeyes wrote:
How is it that QWERTY causes carpal tunnel, but Dvorak doesn't? Does this make sense?
The theory is that the Dvorak layout positions more commonly used keys in easier to reach places, which causes less strain. or something.
IDK if its true, but thats the marketing ploy.
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On April 23 2011 11:54 Crazyeyes wrote:
How is it that QWERTY causes carpal tunnel, but Dvorak doesn't? Does this make sense?
QWERTy is designed to make each finger move as far as possible to type common words and phrases. DVORAK is made to ensure minimal finger movement.
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In my opinion, Dvorak is completely useless unless your job is to retype something. Any decent typer can get 100 wpm+ with qwerty, which is more than enough. Sure, you may be able to type at 120 wpm with a dvorak layout, but can you think at 120 wpm? I type ~110 with qwerty, but when I'm typing out an essay or something I suspect it's somewhere closer to 50 wpm.
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It's not really that much faster. You would probably get faster if you spend the time it takes to learn it and practiced instead. However, I learned Dvorak about 2 years ago and it's my primary layout now. I do switch to qwerty for gaming purposes, and I can still type decently on it. I'm much more used to it now, and I find it a lot more comfortable.
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I might teach my kids Dvorak, but this old dog is done.
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Qwerty is designed to slow you down? really? I type around 100-110 with qwerty.....I don't see a point. I mean the standard is Qwerty EEEVERRYYWHERERERERERE
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On April 23 2011 11:37 The_LiNk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 23 2011 11:13 Crazyeyes wrote:
I dont actually see the point, though. I mean, I'd like to think that my QWERTY typing skills are quite good now. Been able to type without looking since I was like 14, can type pretty quickly when I need to...
Why bother?
I guess in this case you seem to be doing it omre for fun, but I've read mnay times that eventually the DVORAK setup will be standard... QWERTY is designed to slow you down. It's an archaic layout that typewriters employed so you don't jam the keys by typing too fast. Since you can't really break your keyboard by typing too fast anymore, there really is no point of keeping QWERTY. I've been looking to change to a more efficient layout, but then that would mean reassigning keys from games, and that's just damn annoying.
Well not exactly to slow you down, it was because it jammed when you typed a bunch of keys that were close together so they changed it to spread out commonly used letters, but that amounts to about the same thing.
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My only issue would be gaming (SC2 hotkeys) ...
I might try this out for fun though 
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It's fun to learn, but don't kid yourself into thinking it's actually useful.
I learned Dvorak about 6 years ago, but I refused to give up qwerty so my typing in both layouts isn't as fast as they could be otherwise. I use both layouts on a regular basis (work computer in Dvorak, home computer with the Sholes/qwerty layout), and although the Dvorak layout is slightly more comfortable/efficient, I'd say that it isn't noticeable enough to be worth the effort.
Also, might as well mention Colemak as an alternative layout.
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I use dvorak on my computer, and qwerty on any school computers I use. I am slightly faster on dvorak but the main benefit is definitely in comfort, it simply feels way better. As for gaming, some games support it natively (League of Legends just detects it and uses the ',.p as qwer), but for the others i have an easy hotkey set up to switch to qwerty.
I don't know if, starting now, I'd take the time to do it though. I did it one summer doing high school when I didn't have to type regularly, and now I have no such gap in my time where i can really do what's necessary to learn it.
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