EPTFeds cracking down on online poker..? - Page 11
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GummyZerg
United States277 Posts
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AKspartan
United States126 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:33 Ympulse wrote: I loled at how many people actually think gambling is a sustainable income source. Also, this isn't the first time online gambling has been shut down due to money laundering. You'd think people would learn from their history. You're also clueless. Really people, when you don't know what you're talking about, please don't post. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:23 AKspartan wrote: No, the two issues have nothing to do with one another, but nice attempt at a goalpost shift. Do you concede to my original point that the sites did nothing immoral, and that any attempt to prosecute them is unjust, or are you going to continue trying to view the world through your broken moral lens? Even if the money laundering was not immoral, hell even if this whole case is immoral, even if they get convincted on immoral laws. They will be convicted, and people WILL lose money over it, argueing about the morality of this is irrellevant to the case as far as I can see. They broke the law, then they need to suffer the consequences, even if it is infact a stupid law. I also think that apart from money laundering they did nothing immoral. | ||
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SonuvBob
Aiur21552 Posts
I think US players are only completely screwed if the sites don't have enough left over after the $3 billion lawsuit. I can't find much info on that, but it's probably split between the 4 sites, and they're all rich as fuck, so I don't think that's a problem. So your money will likely still be there, but actually getting it may be next to impossible (and you might not even be able to play with it either) But that's just short term. Long term, no more American players I guess? Can't find any useful info on 2p2 since the site's getting hammered right now. =/ Currently Active Users: 12243 (4076 members and 8167 guests) View Who's Online Most users ever online was 12,244, Today at 04:20 PM. | ||
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Grettin
42414 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:35 AKspartan wrote: 2p2's server is totally overloaded. The poker news forum has an insane number of people viewing it right now. Yep, the site is down all the time. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:33 Ympulse wrote: I loled at how many people actually think gambling is a sustainable income source. Also, this isn't the first time online gambling has been shut down due to money laundering. You'd think people would learn from their history. It is a sustainable income source, however this was going to come eventually as long as UIGEA was (or is) in law. | ||
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sekritzzz
1515 Posts
Maybe that will change the govt opinion to reverse this move lol | ||
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Bashrai
Canada119 Posts
 . Well I'm still healty (alwais see the positive ...). Kind of depressing. Good luck to all of you who lost important money. | ||
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Warlike Prince
371 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:06 AKspartan wrote: You're clueless. The government monopolization of money and the transformation of money from a commodity money to fiat money is one of the greatest problems facing the world today. Just wait until a few years from now when all the debt monetization that has been happening to finance our outrageous deficit spending rears its ugly head in the form of massive devaluation of the dollar. so you call someoene clueless but you dont know that the government has not printed the money in almost 100 years. The Federal Reserve is a private bank and is about as "Federal" as Federal Express. Here is a clip of Allen Greenspan, former head of the Fed saying there is no relation between the governent and the fed. Its not a secret, it never has been. You're clueless more on topic here is the best article Ive found about the guy who helped bust them http://www.couriermail.com.au/ipad/web-kings-life-on-the-line/story-fn6ck45n-1226039907165 | ||
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Shocae
United States141 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9110 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:39 sekritzzz wrote: When is the next unemployment report coming in? Mr. Obama, be prepared for a 20% unemployment rate this time of year. Maybe that will change the govt opinion to reverse this move lol What are you talking about? Though this sucks it will have zero effect on the average person whatsoever. | ||
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relyt
United States1073 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:39 sekritzzz wrote: When is the next unemployment report coming in? Mr. Obama, be prepared for a 20% unemployment rate this time of year. Maybe that will change the govt opinion to reverse this move lol Lol i was thinking the same thing. Some of my poker friends have never worked a "real" job before, i dont know what they will do now. I guess moving to Canada isn't a bad option eh? | ||
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Figgy
Canada1788 Posts
It's seriously like all your friends telling you to give money to "this guy" because he'll get you money in return if you "do a couple things for him", you can't be sure you can trust what he is doing is legit unless you do your research. It's always been my opinion that people who are putting tens of thousands of dollars into online gambling are taking a massive risk, not from the gambling, but from what is going on behind the scenes that you can't see to begin with. I'm very surprised that there are a lot of people out there who didn't see this coming, you need to do some research before you trust websites like these. | ||
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relyt
United States1073 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:42 Jonoman92 wrote: What are you talking about? Though this sucks it will have zero effect on the average person whatsoever. I think he was joking about the 20%. | ||
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thebigdonkey
United States354 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:42 Shocae wrote: No!!! I wonder what all the professionals are going to do now. Live games may get really tough. The pro scene, as it is today, will collapse. The televised tours and events will disappear because the major sponsors were online poker sites. Why advertise in a country you can't do business in at all? | ||
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ROOTFayth
Canada3351 Posts
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
It's funny to hear people chime in with random comments about what we should/shouldn't be doing when they are utterly clueless as to anything regarding online poker. | ||
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AKspartan
United States126 Posts
On April 16 2011 05:36 Kipsate wrote: Even if the money laundering was not immoral, hell even if this whole case is immoral, even if they get convincted on immoral laws. They will be convicted, and people WILL lose money over it, argueing about the morality of this is irrellevant to the case as far as I can see. They broke the law, then they need to suffer the consequences, even if it is infact a stupid law. I also think that apart from money laundering they did nothing immoral. Nothing discussed here on the forums will affect the outcome of the case. So? We don't discuss it? No. This is a discussion forum. I'm disgusted by the immorality of it - the poker sites have done nothing inherently wrong - so that's what I post about. And your logic doesn't make sense. Regardless of whether or not the law is moral, people should be punished to the fullest extent of the law? Do you understand how many terrible scenarios I could construct where people are brutally murdered or tortured or imprisoned for life for silly offenses to nonsensical laws? Do you realize how many of the brutalities and injustices of history were legally condoned by the despots that carried them out? Don't rely on government to teach you right from wrong. Legality is largely arbitrary. | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
i wonder what will happen to SCOOP never are they going to allow massive overlays :D | ||
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SpiffD
Denmark1264 Posts
 If online gambling is illegal in the US, wasn't this bound to happen? Even if the companies are located elsewhere you have to live up to the laws of the country in which you reside, no? | ||
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