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Thread is about the various issues surrounding Japan in the aftermath of the recent earthquake. Don't bring the shit side of the internet to the thread, and post with the realization that this thread is very important, and very real, to your fellow members.

Do not post speculative and unconfirmed news you saw on TV or anywhere else. Generally the more dramatic it sounds the less likely it's true.
naim
Profile Joined February 2011
41 Posts
March 14 2011 22:10 GMT
#2381
On March 15 2011 07:09 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 07:01 Razith wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Partial defect found in No.2 reactor's container: Edano (06:58)

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/


now is that good or bad? depends if it is fixable right? ^^

at this stage nothing at any of these reactors is fixable :/
Railgan
Profile Joined August 2010
Switzerland1509 Posts
March 14 2011 22:17 GMT
#2382
On March 15 2011 07:09 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 07:01 Razith wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Partial defect found in No.2 reactor's container: Edano (06:58)

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/


now is that good or bad? depends if it is fixable right? ^^

if there is a defect its most likly baid
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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 14 2011 22:23 GMT
#2383
"there is a defect"
That's about as vague as you can get, NO ONE can draw a conclusion from that
bebe01
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)512 Posts
March 14 2011 22:28 GMT
#2384
lmao @ quoting infowars you damn fools
Razith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 22:33:12
March 14 2011 22:32 GMT
#2385
"2207: Japan's Chief Cabinet Secretary, Yukio Edano, has said a partial defect has been found inside the containment vessel of reactor 3 at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, the Kyodo news agency reports. He has also said the reactor is "not necessarily in a stable condition". Early on Tuesday morning, officials said pressure inside the container had dropped and sea water was being pumped in to cool the fuel rods."

"
2208: However, there has been no sharp rise in radiation levels at reactor 2, Mr Edano adds."


I believe they mean reactor 2 as you can see the followup statement references reactor 2. This is reported on BBC.
AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 22:45:35
March 14 2011 22:43 GMT
#2386
On March 14 2011 13:42 AntiLegend wrote:
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On March 14 2011 13:37 sqrt wrote:
On March 14 2011 13:35 AntiLegend wrote:
On March 14 2011 13:28 lexingtonsteel wrote:
Where is all this sea water going to anyway? I mean I would imaging its all radioactive water right? I can't imagine putting that water back into the sea, or letting it off as steam.


this is a very good question.


Most of it will retract with time, however due to shifts in the Japanese coast some would remain, most probably some cities would have to be rebuild on higher ground.


maybe my quote was a little bit too short, but the question is, what happens to the sea water which is being pumped into the reactor containments. at some point it will also get too hot and have to be replaced by new sea water, but by this time it should be highly radioactive.


follow up on this:

news agency dapd has asked NISA what happens to the sea water which has been pumped into the reactors, the answer is: the radiated water is just pumped back into the sea
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
March 14 2011 22:52 GMT
#2387
actually NYT is reporting that the seawater is being pumped into the reactor vessel, is then boiled into steam, and then they open vents to release the steam. then they put in more seawater, boil it, release it as steam. rinse and repeat.

the problem with reactor no. 2 is that NYT says there might be a leak, so they can't actually completely fill up the reactor vessel with seawater anymore.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/15/world/asia/15nuclear.html?_r=1&ref=global-home
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
Slago
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada726 Posts
March 14 2011 22:55 GMT
#2388
oh man there now predicting a 9.0 quake to hit where I live I'm so creeped out now that is so sad
I came here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of... ah forget it
AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
March 14 2011 22:59 GMT
#2389
On March 15 2011 07:55 Slago wrote:
oh man there now predicting a 9.0 quake to hit where I live I'm so creeped out now that is so sad


was any timeframe given?
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 14 2011 23:00 GMT
#2390
On March 15 2011 07:55 Slago wrote:
oh man there now predicting a 9.0 quake to hit where I live I'm so creeped out now that is so sad


Wait what where? I'm in Vancouver, which is on the ring of fire... so...
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 14 2011 23:01 GMT
#2391
Venting the steam from the water that cooled the molten core? That does NOT sound good
Maggeus
Profile Joined April 2010
France277 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 23:04:38
March 14 2011 23:02 GMT
#2392
On March 15 2011 08:01 hugman wrote:
Venting the steam from the water that cooled the molten core? That does NOT sound good


They've already been doing that since the beginning to avoid a vapor explosion. The steam is absolutely nothing as a threat compared to a real leak.

Btw, they announced the containment building from the 2nd reactor has a leak, but the radiation did not rise.
I can't understand how it could not rise, apart from the fact there's no meltdown in it. And even so, this seems strange.

NEWS : An explosion has been heard at n°2.
Razith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada431 Posts
March 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#2393
FLASH: Explosion heard at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi No.2 reactor: Jiji News Agency

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2

BREAKING NEWS: Blast heard at 6:10 a.m. at Fukushima's No.2 reactor: gov't (08:02)

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/
AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
March 14 2011 23:05 GMT
#2394
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv

"Breaking news: Blast heard at no.2 reactor"
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
March 14 2011 23:07 GMT
#2395
oh shit that sounds seriously not good.
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 23:09:36
March 14 2011 23:08 GMT
#2396
On March 15 2011 08:05 Razith wrote:
FLASH: Explosion heard at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi No.2 reactor: Jiji News Agency

http://live.reuters.com/Event/Japan_earthquake2

BREAKING NEWS: Blast heard at 6:10 a.m. at Fukushima's No.2 reactor: gov't (08:02)

http://english.kyodonews.jp/news/


NHK analyst says that there's a possibility that the containment vessel is compromised...
Maggeus
Profile Joined April 2010
France277 Posts
March 14 2011 23:09 GMT
#2397
On March 15 2011 08:07 HolydaKing wrote:
oh shit that sounds seriously not good.


If it's the same result as the reactor 1 and 3, we could say we evaded the worst...
But there's already a leak at 2 before the explosion (surely hydrogen explosion), so...
Razith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 23:11:00
March 14 2011 23:10 GMT
#2398
On March 15 2011 08:08 dump wrote:
NHK analyst says that there's a possibility that the containment vessel is compromised...


Reactor 1 and 3 both survived an explosion, however they stated reactor 2 containment vessel had a defect.. that is what worries me. Plus it was only 'heard' so lets wait and see.

Hopefully everything is still intact.
AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-14 23:12:55
March 14 2011 23:12 GMT
#2399
they just showed no2 on http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nhk-world-tv , looked intact, but i don't know if that was a live image
dump
Profile Joined August 2010
Japan514 Posts
March 14 2011 23:15 GMT
#2400
NHK analyst saying the worst case scenario could be happening.
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