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On February 02 2011 10:19 Venus.exe wrote:
Doesn't the worker have common sense? What would you do if you were ordered to slaughter 100 sled dogs? I wouldn't have done it. No money can buy me like that.
Now this is another topic all together.
As a father, if I had no backup plan, no opportunity and my choice was either make my paycheck and feed my son and keep him in a warm home or have him go hungry and sleep on a frozen street I would have killed the dogs also, hopefully, in a more humane manner but the fact is I know in my heart that I would do it for him.
I doubt I will ever have a choice like that before me but I know far beyond theory what I would do.
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Damn. First they don't let us off school to watch the games, then they back out on the promise saying the athlete's village for homeless, and how they slaughtered the dogs. How cruel.
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I'm extremely impressed by the general naivety in this thread. Killing is killing. The manner in which it's done usually only effects the person doing it, and it's the intentions behind the killing that matter to us morally.
Slaughter a million cows a year for food? We don't care how it's done, I mean, we need to eat, right? We kill them brutally every damn day, chickens too. seals, rabbits ton's of animals for tons of different reasons. We don't care how it gets done.
Slaughter a single cow for pleasure... You're a psychopath.
The dogs would be dead either way. The method doesn't really matter, the intentions behind them do.
Even the word "euthanization" tries to obfuscate the issue, like we aren't actually killing the dogs. Isn't this method for their death better than the slow torture of starvation?
We try to find the most humane way to kill things because it effects US. Not because we care about the poor little doggies. Some of you people frankly need to grow up. Animals are being brutally killed all around us. So are humans.
You can pretend to be ignorant and believe it's not happening. But that doesn't allow for you to amplify specific instances like this, and isolate them and treat them like some tragedy, because that only makes you lose sight of what really going on around you.
By all rights this seems more like a tragic accident of communication more than anything else. People looking to blame someone for the deaths of these dogs are really only trying to cope with their own naive revulsions of these events that are, quite honestly, happening all the time.
Edit: I really hate being the last post in a thread page. Hope this isn't too frowned on
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Holy shit wow. I really hope that the guy is telling the truth and truly didnt want to do that. Reading the part about the dog he "thought was dead" trying to climb out of the mass grave turned this story from another "oh thats bad" to actually making me physically sick and very upset that actually happened.
As far SPCA, I dont really care for them. Obviously I dont think what happened was right, but SPCA can be over the top with the type of words they use to "spice it up". This story didnt need any of that.
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This is like one of the saddest things i have ever read, and i dont care too much about animals. Such unnecessary cruelty though towards anything that has served you well for a long time is something that perhaps only humans are capable of. The psychology behind such things is really quite interesting but it is a topic for another thread.
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On February 01 2011 11:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If this was in Florida, they would be sentenced for first degree murder. Florida's laws against killing a dog is considered as to killing a human. Fuck these guys, I get so angry when I read stories like these. That law makes me sick to my stomach; disgusting.
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Seriously..
Not only could these dogs likely have been given away,
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Writing more might get me a permaban :S
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Yeah I remember reading that he was "forced" to do it. That's complete bullshit. He could have easily said, "No I quit." Couldn't force him to do it unless he really wanted to go through with it...
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On February 02 2011 10:53 TL_Awesome wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2011 11:07 ShoCkeyy wrote:
If this was in Florida, they would be sentenced for first degree murder. Florida's laws against killing a dog is considered as to killing a human. Fuck these guys, I get so angry when I read stories like these. That law makes me sick to my stomach; disgusting.
Seriously,same here. Talk about a massive hypocrisy. Likening the murder of a human to a dog, when we literally euthanize thousands a year, Is akin to saying we should be able to take all our poor and homeless and kill them off, so long as we do it "humanely".
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Dog sledding companies have been finding loving homes for their dogs for decades, there were other options beyond killing them.
The dogs were killed because the business couldn't be bothered to find them homes, and THAT's something that I have a problem with. Killing 100 dogs because you're lazy is infinitely worse than killing 1 000 000 pigs because of a rampant disease in my opinion.
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Sure, that is worse. But you don't know the full reasoning. IT's not been made clear what really happened since the first post. And I'm sure the only people who really know who's at fault is those involved. So trying to blame anyone is sort of silly. It's a coinflip. One that will be decided in a court, usually by people more well versed in law than us.
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On February 01 2011 10:58 ReaverDrop! wrote:
They're just animals, they are the property of the man who owns them, what he does to them is nobodies business as far as I'm concerned.
You realize humans are animals, too?
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On February 02 2011 10:10 slothtron wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 05:50 Tony Campolo wrote:On February 02 2011 04:52 slothtron wrote:
Are you kidding me? Likening this to animals slaughtered for food? The dogs were brutally killed and thrown in a mass grave, how can you even make that comparison? The intelligence level in this thread is astounding. You're pretty ignorant aren't you? Have you ever visited a slaughterhouse? Or a sow stall? Or a battery farm? Ignorant of what? I'm not saying slaughterhouses aren't brutal as fuck (which really isn't ok either), I'm saying those animals are killed for us to eat. To me that is completely different than dumping a bunch of dogs in a ditch. I know 100 dogs is a drop in the bucket brutality-wise, but for me killing something for no purpose is a lot different than killing something for food. I figured more people would make that connection, guess not.
Yes, you are ignorant. It is perfectly viable to live on a vegan diet. The fact of the matter is that we don't NEED to eat those animals. We just WANT to. Likewise there was no need to kill those dogs - the owners simply wanted to. If you truly claim to give a shit about how these dogs were killed, then it makes no difference whether an animal is murdered for food or economic purposes - they are unnecessarily murdered nevertheless. Most people are just too lazy to switch to vegan diets.
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On February 02 2011 11:27 Tony Campolo wrote:
Most people are just too lazy poor to switch to vegan diets.
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On February 02 2011 11:30 Almin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 11:27 Tony Campolo wrote:
Most people are just too lazy poor to switch to vegan diets.
Not true. To put it simply - replace meat with various beans/nuts. They're around the same price and offer the same nutrients.
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On February 02 2011 11:38 Tony Campolo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 11:30 Almin wrote:On February 02 2011 11:27 Tony Campolo wrote:
Most people are just too lazy poor to switch to vegan diets. Not true. To put it simply - replace meat with various beans/nuts. They're around the same price and offer the same nutrients.
What will happen to the animals that will overbreed with no natural predators since humans have eliminated them everywhere, kill them? Oh wait....back where we started.
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On February 02 2011 11:38 Tony Campolo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2011 11:30 Almin wrote:On February 02 2011 11:27 Tony Campolo wrote:
Most people are just too lazy poor to switch to vegan diets. Not true. To put it simply - replace meat with various beans/nuts. They're around the same price and offer the same nutrients.
Yeah, the affordability argument is total bullshit. Most people I confront about it just don't want to give up the taste, which, of course, is no excuse, so they'll oftentimes suppress their guilt with statements they aren't really committed to, such as, "animals don't have feelings," or, "who cares if they suffer or not?" I think most people are sympathetic towards animals, but they're just too uncomfortable going vegan. It's not that hard, guys!
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What a waste. They could of at least gave me some of the dogs so I could of eaten them and used the fur to make a nice coat.
mmmmm barbecued dog legs and ribs........ *mouth waters*
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