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SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
December 20 2010 09:03 GMT
#261
To many people in this thread coming up with "what if's" that are so far above any of our echelons they sound absurd.

To the wikipedia warriors that say our military is "stretched to thin" I would like to direct you to USMC Forces Pacific: 2 MEF's locked and loaded ready to go gentleman.

Take a step back and relax, all these doomsday scenarios people are coming up with are almost laughable.
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
December 20 2010 09:10 GMT
#262
China isnt going to be helping North Korea at all. read the war logs, they want Korea to be re-united under south korea
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
December 20 2010 09:11 GMT
#263
Actually, many analysts are saying all these shows of power from the North and attacks on the South may be political maneuvering within North Korea's domestic politics in order to gain experience and obtain "victories" for the resume of the new heir and 4-star general, Kim Jung-un.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
December 20 2010 09:20 GMT
#264
SEOUL, Dec. 20 (Yonhap) -- North Korea called on its people on Monday to unite in a campaign "to oppose war and uphold peace" as tension soars along the western sea border ahead of South Korea's planned artillery drills.

http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2010/12/20/85/0200000000AEN20101220004500315F.HTML
Yes im
us.insurgency
Profile Joined March 2010
United States330 Posts
December 20 2010 09:21 GMT
#265
On December 20 2010 17:00 overt wrote:
It's more or less if China gets involved. If China gets involved a draft will occur. If North Korea holds on longer than people are acting in this thread, a draft could occur especially if we keep operations normal in Iraq/Afghanistan.

People seem to think we'd just steamroll through North Korea. Their infrastructure likely couldn't maintain a long drawn out war, but having nukes, the world's fourth largest army, and more tanks and naval vessels than South Korea means that a war wouldn't be over "in two weeks."

It'd be laughably one-sided, but if North Korea goes nuclear or just happens to surprise people, the war could go on much longer than people are acting like it will.

First of all if the war goes nuclear then it would be over fast. The UN would step in and I bet there would be nuclear retaliation. The US could devastate North Korea in a nuclear fight.

China already said they are not backing North Korea. They think they should disarm their nuclear weapons.

The reason why war is so costly (especially for the US) is because they use technology to save lives. They do not need as much man power like they did in WWII A fear about a draft is very selfish.
ImFromPortugal
Profile Joined April 2010
Portugal1368 Posts
December 20 2010 09:25 GMT
#266
On December 20 2010 18:21 us.insurgency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 17:00 overt wrote:
It's more or less if China gets involved. If China gets involved a draft will occur. If North Korea holds on longer than people are acting in this thread, a draft could occur especially if we keep operations normal in Iraq/Afghanistan.

People seem to think we'd just steamroll through North Korea. Their infrastructure likely couldn't maintain a long drawn out war, but having nukes, the world's fourth largest army, and more tanks and naval vessels than South Korea means that a war wouldn't be over "in two weeks."

It'd be laughably one-sided, but if North Korea goes nuclear or just happens to surprise people, the war could go on much longer than people are acting like it will.

First of all if the war goes nuclear then it would be over fast. The UN would step in and I bet there would be nuclear retaliation. The US could devastate North Korea in a nuclear fight.

China already said they are not backing North Korea. They think they should disarm their nuclear weapons.

The reason why war is so costly (especially for the US) is because they use technology to save lives. They do not need as much man power like they did in WWII A fear about a draft is very selfish.


i dont think russia or china would like the idea of nuclear radiation coming to their countries
Yes im
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
December 20 2010 09:36 GMT
#267
On December 20 2010 18:25 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 18:21 us.insurgency wrote:
On December 20 2010 17:00 overt wrote:
It's more or less if China gets involved. If China gets involved a draft will occur. If North Korea holds on longer than people are acting in this thread, a draft could occur especially if we keep operations normal in Iraq/Afghanistan.

People seem to think we'd just steamroll through North Korea. Their infrastructure likely couldn't maintain a long drawn out war, but having nukes, the world's fourth largest army, and more tanks and naval vessels than South Korea means that a war wouldn't be over "in two weeks."

It'd be laughably one-sided, but if North Korea goes nuclear or just happens to surprise people, the war could go on much longer than people are acting like it will.

First of all if the war goes nuclear then it would be over fast. The UN would step in and I bet there would be nuclear retaliation. The US could devastate North Korea in a nuclear fight.

China already said they are not backing North Korea. They think they should disarm their nuclear weapons.

The reason why war is so costly (especially for the US) is because they use technology to save lives. They do not need as much man power like they did in WWII A fear about a draft is very selfish.


i dont think russia or china would like the idea of nuclear radiation coming to their countries

The US would prob just use tactical nukes to destroy militiary/strategic targets,not ICBMs.
us.insurgency
Profile Joined March 2010
United States330 Posts
December 20 2010 09:38 GMT
#268
On December 20 2010 18:25 ImFromPortugal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 18:21 us.insurgency wrote:
On December 20 2010 17:00 overt wrote:
It's more or less if China gets involved. If China gets involved a draft will occur. If North Korea holds on longer than people are acting in this thread, a draft could occur especially if we keep operations normal in Iraq/Afghanistan.

People seem to think we'd just steamroll through North Korea. Their infrastructure likely couldn't maintain a long drawn out war, but having nukes, the world's fourth largest army, and more tanks and naval vessels than South Korea means that a war wouldn't be over "in two weeks."

It'd be laughably one-sided, but if North Korea goes nuclear or just happens to surprise people, the war could go on much longer than people are acting like it will.

First of all if the war goes nuclear then it would be over fast. The UN would step in and I bet there would be nuclear retaliation. The US could devastate North Korea in a nuclear fight.

China already said they are not backing North Korea. They think they should disarm their nuclear weapons.

The reason why war is so costly (especially for the US) is because they use technology to save lives. They do not need as much man power like they did in WWII A fear about a draft is very selfish.


i dont think russia or china would like the idea of nuclear radiation coming to their countries

True. Would South Korea/US let a nuclear bomb going off without a retaliation of their own?
whaty0uwant
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand346 Posts
December 20 2010 09:40 GMT
#269
North Korea have stated on many different occasions that if war was to erupt, then they will fire hundreds of missiles straight into Seoul.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
December 20 2010 09:43 GMT
#270
On December 20 2010 18:38 us.insurgency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 18:25 ImFromPortugal wrote:
On December 20 2010 18:21 us.insurgency wrote:
On December 20 2010 17:00 overt wrote:
It's more or less if China gets involved. If China gets involved a draft will occur. If North Korea holds on longer than people are acting in this thread, a draft could occur especially if we keep operations normal in Iraq/Afghanistan.

People seem to think we'd just steamroll through North Korea. Their infrastructure likely couldn't maintain a long drawn out war, but having nukes, the world's fourth largest army, and more tanks and naval vessels than South Korea means that a war wouldn't be over "in two weeks."

It'd be laughably one-sided, but if North Korea goes nuclear or just happens to surprise people, the war could go on much longer than people are acting like it will.

First of all if the war goes nuclear then it would be over fast. The UN would step in and I bet there would be nuclear retaliation. The US could devastate North Korea in a nuclear fight.

China already said they are not backing North Korea. They think they should disarm their nuclear weapons.

The reason why war is so costly (especially for the US) is because they use technology to save lives. They do not need as much man power like they did in WWII A fear about a draft is very selfish.


i dont think russia or china would like the idea of nuclear radiation coming to their countries

True. Would South Korea/US let a nuclear bomb going off without a retaliation of their own?


Even if SK get nuked by NK, I wouldn't bet US uses nuke against NK.
After all, SK wouldn't want an unified penninsula in which half of it is a nuclear wasteland.
They don't need nuke to make NK regime collapse.
Just bomb military bases, stock piles of missiles and artilleries, and bomb Pyongyang and send the citizens into a chaotic frenzy and it's gg.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
xBillehx
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 10:02:29
December 20 2010 09:59 GMT
#271
#DPRK (via KCNA) retreats from retaliation threat, now says #ROK drill not worth a reaction. #Korea
http://twitter.com/#!/W7VOA

FLASH: North Korea army says "it is not worth reacting to provocation" from South Korea's exercise - KCNA
http://twitter.com/#!/Reuters

Looks like they chose to lose face and backed down.
Taengoo ♥
Teivospylol
Profile Joined September 2010
Djibouti47 Posts
December 20 2010 10:00 GMT
#272
On December 20 2010 18:21 us.insurgency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 17:00 overt wrote:
It's more or less if China gets involved. If China gets involved a draft will occur. If North Korea holds on longer than people are acting in this thread, a draft could occur especially if we keep operations normal in Iraq/Afghanistan.

People seem to think we'd just steamroll through North Korea. Their infrastructure likely couldn't maintain a long drawn out war, but having nukes, the world's fourth largest army, and more tanks and naval vessels than South Korea means that a war wouldn't be over "in two weeks."

It'd be laughably one-sided, but if North Korea goes nuclear or just happens to surprise people, the war could go on much longer than people are acting like it will.

First of all if the war goes nuclear then it would be over fast. The UN would step in and I bet there would be nuclear retaliation. The US could devastate North Korea in a nuclear fight.



Are you 12?
Ji
Chaosvuistje
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands2581 Posts
December 20 2010 10:04 GMT
#273
North korea is taking sensible decisions?
Looks like they got even more crazier now. Like when did that ever happen?

Good thing nothing came out of it though.
sksyen
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States359 Posts
December 20 2010 10:08 GMT
#274
Good.
InflowYen.681 || /dance
urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
December 20 2010 10:08 GMT
#275
On December 20 2010 18:36 thoradycus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2010 18:25 ImFromPortugal wrote:
On December 20 2010 18:21 us.insurgency wrote:
On December 20 2010 17:00 overt wrote:
It's more or less if China gets involved. If China gets involved a draft will occur. If North Korea holds on longer than people are acting in this thread, a draft could occur especially if we keep operations normal in Iraq/Afghanistan.

People seem to think we'd just steamroll through North Korea. Their infrastructure likely couldn't maintain a long drawn out war, but having nukes, the world's fourth largest army, and more tanks and naval vessels than South Korea means that a war wouldn't be over "in two weeks."

It'd be laughably one-sided, but if North Korea goes nuclear or just happens to surprise people, the war could go on much longer than people are acting like it will.

First of all if the war goes nuclear then it would be over fast. The UN would step in and I bet there would be nuclear retaliation. The US could devastate North Korea in a nuclear fight.

China already said they are not backing North Korea. They think they should disarm their nuclear weapons.

The reason why war is so costly (especially for the US) is because they use technology to save lives. They do not need as much man power like they did in WWII A fear about a draft is very selfish.


i dont think russia or china would like the idea of nuclear radiation coming to their countries

The US would prob just use tactical nukes to destroy militiary/strategic targets,not ICBMs.


To be clear, the size of the explosion and resulting fallout depends on the number of warheads, not the delivery system. Tactical nukes are relatively short-ranged missiles fired from a carrier of some sort, such as a submarine. ICBM stands for intercontinental ballistic missile, which means it can be launched from one continent and strike in another.

In any case, a nuclear strike is highly unlikely from any organization that can be singled out and targeted for retaliation in any form (such as a nation). Using a nuke might help you defeat an enemy, but what it will do for sure is assure your own destruction either at your own hands or those around you. I won't be worried about it, personally.
Who dat ninja?
ShloobeR
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Korea (South)3819 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-20 10:14:33
December 20 2010 10:12 GMT
#276
This thread is hilarious

a bunch of people stating that there will be war. a bunch of people weighing in their opinions with absolutely 0 geo-political information about the area other than 'north korea bad'. And then fearmongering spreading like a disease.

Who here really thought that North Korea would decide that now would be a fantastic time to launch missiles into Seoul and enter a war they cannot win
: o )
inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
December 20 2010 10:25 GMT
#277
On December 20 2010 19:12 ShloobeR wrote:
This thread is hilarious

a bunch of people stating that there will be war. a bunch of people weighing in their opinions with absolutely 0 geo-political information about the area other than 'north korea bad'. And then fearmongering spreading like a disease.

Who here really thought that North Korea would decide that now would be a fantastic time to launch missiles into Seoul and enter a war they cannot win


I thought there was about as good a chance of that happening as them launching missiles at an island and killing 4 people.

Not likely but possible.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
December 20 2010 11:04 GMT
#278
Well, according to South Korean news, NK just said they didn't feel like responding to this drill or something of that sort.
More like they can't dare, but they're creative people so whatever.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Loanshark
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
China3094 Posts
December 20 2010 11:13 GMT
#279
On December 20 2010 19:12 ShloobeR wrote:
This thread is hilarious

a bunch of people stating that there will be war. a bunch of people weighing in their opinions with absolutely 0 geo-political information about the area other than 'north korea bad'. And then fearmongering spreading like a disease.

Who here really thought that North Korea would decide that now would be a fantastic time to launch missiles into Seoul and enter a war they cannot win


I get a feeling that you could say something like this for most news threads created in General.
No dough, no go. And no mercy.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
December 20 2010 11:13 GMT
#280
On December 20 2010 19:12 ShloobeR wrote:
This thread is hilarious

a bunch of people stating that there will be war. a bunch of people weighing in their opinions with absolutely 0 geo-political information about the area other than 'north korea bad'. And then fearmongering spreading like a disease.

Who here really thought that North Korea would decide that now would be a fantastic time to launch missiles into Seoul and enter a war they cannot win


Pretty much this. North Korean leaders might be running a failed state, but they'd rather be running a failed state than be dead. None of them are actually crazy, but the appearance of being crazy is how they get what they need from the international community. Pretending to be a rabid dog that's ready to strike keeps people at the negotiating tables instead of laughing and walking away when they actually need something.
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