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Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 08 2010 17:03 GMT
#521
Assange's bail is provided by an A-list crew, unfortunately he doesn't get bail:

http://newsfeed.time.com/2010/12/08/julian-assange-gets-love-from-celebrities-not-judge/
+ Show Spoiler +
The ongoing drama featuring Julian Assange just went A-list. Some of the latest characters: a model-turned-socialite, a British filmmaker, a documentarian and a rich American.
The Guardian reports that a group of “household names,” at least in British standards, pooled almost $283,000 for Assange's bail.

Jemina Khan, a philanthropist who once dated Hugh Grant, pledged about $32,000 for Assange's release alongside The Wind That Shakes the Barley director Ken Loach. They appeared at Westminster magistrates court yesterday.

“I think the work he has done has been a public service,” Loach said.

Both said they do not know Assange personally.

Journalist and documentarian John Pilger, who did know Assange, offered roughly $32,000 as well. “This is not justice,” he later said outside the courthouse. “This is outrageous.”

But one person who didn't even bother making a cameo appearance in the courtroom may be the most influential yet. Dubbed simply as “an unknown American,” this person reportedly offered around $125,000.

In the end, their collective star power wasn't quite enough, however. Judge Howard Riddle commended the group for their “concern for human rights” but refused to grant Assange bail.


Datacell takes action against Visa and Mastercard for withdrawing service from Wikileaks:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-11945875
+ Show Spoiler +
PayPal has said that its decision to stop users from using its service to make donations to Wikileaks was made after advice from the US government.

A senior official at the online payments firm said the State Department had told it that the activities of the website were illegal in the US.

PayPal suspended payments to Wikileaks last week, and has been followed by Visa Europe and Mastercard.

Amazon and Swiss bank PostFinance have also cut ties with Wikileaks.

PayPal's clarification came from the firm's vice-president Osama Bedier.

He said the company had carried out its actions after receiving a letter from the State Department, adding that it was a "straightforward" decision.

PayPal is owned by US online auction giant eBay.

Legal threat

On Tuesday, Mastercard said that it was suspending payments to Wikileaks "until the situation is resolved".

Datacell says Visa and Mastercard's decisions could harm its own business This was followed by Visa Europe on Wednesday, which said it would be carrying out an investigation into the whistle-blowing website.

Visa Europe said it wanted to determine whether the nature of Wikileaks' business "contravenes Visa operating rules".

Both companies are now facing the threat of legal action from the IT company that enables Wikileaks to accept credit and debit card donations.

Swiss-based Datacell said it would move immediately to try to force Visa Europe and Mastercard to resume allowing payments to the whistle-blowing website.

Datacell added that Visa Europe and Mastercard's actions could harm its own business.

A spokeswoman for Visa Europe said it would not be making any comment regarding Datacell at this time. Mastercard has also yet to make a statement.

Mastercard has, however, commented on claims that pro-Wikileaks internet hackers had brought down its website.

Mastercard said there was "no impact" on people's ability to use their cards for transactions.

Datacell's chief executive Andreas Fink urged Visa to "just simply do their business where they are good at - transferring money".

Datacell added that the suspension would last for an initial seven days, but this has yet to be confirmed by Visa Europe.

The founder of Wikileaks, Julian Assange, was arrested in London on Tuesday, connected to sexual assault allegations in Sweden.

He was refused bail, but has vowed to fight extradition.


To see people caring about justice, even in the face of the mighty US government, it almost brings a tear to my eye.
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
December 08 2010 17:08 GMT
#522
Hacking Visa and Mastercard isn't justice, that's retarded and the guilty people should be thrown in jail and the key should be thrown away (okay perhaps keep the key and let them out in 10 years time...)
Slix36
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom145 Posts
December 08 2010 17:35 GMT
#523
On December 09 2010 00:27 Hizzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 00:01 schimmetje wrote:
On December 08 2010 23:45 Hizzo wrote:
Can we keep away from what 4Chan / anon is or is not

I'm not going to argue with you


..

Is there any news on the trial? I did not read when it will begin, etc.


Bail was denied because they're supposedly afraid he'll run, whether or not he'll be extradited will be reviewed by the courts on the 14th. Cable leaks continue.


Misquote?

I wonder what the outcome of the trail will be; I hope it's a fair one - everything seems pretty bogus to me.

I'm not surprised about how all of these companies / corporations are just buckling to pressure instantly. Disappointing - US is making me sick right now.


the warrant of extradition isnt for a trial, it's just for questioning, and with all the facts it's unlikely it will even go to court without some government influence, it didn't last time.

and yes, it does seem pretty bogus, even one of the biggest pricks from fox news believes it's bogus, which i found quite suprising.
Never too late to stand your ground.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 08 2010 17:42 GMT
#524
On December 09 2010 02:08 Ghostcom wrote:
Hacking Visa and Mastercard isn't justice, that's retarded and the guilty people should be thrown in jail and the key should be thrown away (okay perhaps keep the key and let them out in 10 years time...)

All it does is justify that vista and mastercard does not wish to be associated with these kind of people.
Tony Campolo
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand364 Posts
December 08 2010 20:12 GMT
#525
A Roissy summary of the case:

+ Show Spoiler +
So let me see if I have this straight.

Four months ago, fame-whore Anna Ardin had a few telephone and internet conversations with WikiLeaks badboy Julian Assange, a man she had previously only known as a name in the news.

A few telephone calls with an alpha male she didn’t know from Adam is all it took for her vagina to vibrate like a tuning fork. She invited him to stay at her unattended (!) place in Stockholm. She would be away on business.

When he arrived in Stockholm, the radical libertarian Assange “held court” at a local pub with like-minded admirers. The vagina tingles reached critical mass.

Assange’s alphaness must have been so powerful it was telepathic, because Ardin picked up on the disturbance in the electromagnetic spectrum from far away and returned home a day earlier than she had planned. SETI could not locate an extraterrestrial signal so precisely.

Assange was still at her place when she returned. She decided he could continue to stay. Scientists are baffled.

Within mere hours of returning and meeting this man in the flesh for the first time in her life, Ardin and Assange had sex. She is not a total slut, though. She would like you to know that they had dinner beforehand.

During sex, the condom broke. Both confirm this.

The two lovebirds were happy and friendly the next morning, as can be discerned by the fact that Ardin threw a party for him that night.

At a seminar that day, woman #2, Sofia Wilen, felt a strong rush of tingles for Assange because she read about him in the papers.

Wilen set out to meet Assange, by stalking him introducing herself:

[Sofia] would later tell police that she had first seen Assange on television a few weeks before. She had found him ‘interesting, brave and admirable’. As a result, she began to follow the WikiLeaks saga, and when she discovered that he was due to visit Stockholm she contacted the Brotherhood Movement to volunteer to help out at the seminar. Although her offer was not taken up, she decided to attend the seminar anyway and took a large number of photos of Assange during his 90-minute talk.

Lesson: A woman will move heaven and earth to meet an alpha male. When a man does the same thing to meet a woman he likes, he is slapped with a restraining order.

Assange and Wilen went to lunch together with Assange’s friends.

They flirted.

The attraction was mutual. Scientists, still baffled, wonder how an ugly but infamous mofo like Assange could be considered attractive by a cute babe.

After lunch, Assange and Wilen went to see a movie. But Assange had to part early, to attend the party that Ardin was throwing for him that night.

After the party, the future rape accuser Anna Ardin Tweeted that she was “with the coolest people” and that she felt “amazing”.

There were other Tweets of this nature that suggest a state of mind very unlike what one would imagine a recent rape victim would possess.

A couple days later, Sofia meets Assange in Stockholm. She then pays for his train ticket to her home in another Swedish town. Scientists, now knee-deep in bafflement, wonder why a young woman would pay the way of an ugly and poor but infamous libertardian badboy claiming he can’t get money because the CIA tracks his credit card transactions. Sofia’s hamster is about to collapse from exhaustion.

Maxim #21: Betas pay, alphas split, super alphas profit.

Later that night, the two self-satisfied, egomaniacal “activists” make sweet rebellious love as the world burns down around them. Assange wore a condom at night, but raw dogged it in the morning.

Sofia Wilen would later claim that she had asked him to wear a condom in the morning, but he refused. She opened her legs anyway.

On Tuesday, the following day, Wilen and Assange had lunch. She paid for his train ticket again.

Assange forgets rule #1 of successful womanizers: Do NOT concurrently bed mutual acquaintances, particularly those who are proud to call themselves feminists. Wilen calls Ardin, and the two women conspire a false rape charge to exact revenge against the man who treated the purity of their love so cavalierly.

At the police station, the women are interviewed by a female police officer. Charges follow. No, not charges of “cruel and unusual fits of jealousy” but charges of rape and sexual molestation against Assange.

Assange, a figure of ambivalence at best, has as a result of his recent arrest in Britain, epicenter of self-loathing, self-annihilating Westerners, earned street cred with REAL liberty loving men.

What scores of powerful governments around the world have been unable to do, two spurned groupies and a female police officer, along with the backing of the feminist establishment, have been able to orchestrate unhindered.

******

I think that’s the story. What can we learn from this? Let me be blunt.

If Assange is convicted of rape,
then we are all rapists now.

Every man who’s ever had a condom break, or who had condomless sex with a woman who agreed to the sex despite her misgivings, or who has slept with more than one woman in a weekend, is now a rapist. By these standards, half the men in the world would be locked up on rape charges. This is the logical conclusion of feminist thought. I’m sure they secretly love the idea.

Feminists and feminist enablers (you know who you are, you pasty-skinned sunken-chest droopy cartoon muscled faggy-faced white knighters who wear T-shirts that say “this is what a feminist looks like”), here is word from the Committee of Helpful Reminders:

Sex with a woman willingly spreading for a man despite his refusal to wear a condom, and then feeling regret about her sluttiness the next day, is not rape. It is not even rape in emasculated Sweden. Similarly, getting pumped and dumped is not sexual molestation. Hope this helps.

Anna Ardin’s ego was bruised, and her sluttiness broadcast to all her friends. As a result, she set out to seek vengeance against the skirt-chasing man she fell in love with over a heady late summer weekend. She even had a website devoted to plans for exacting just such a revenge scenerio.

Earlier this year, [Anna] is reported to have posted a telling entry on her website, which she has since removed. But a copy has been retrieved and widely circulated on the internet.

Entitled ‘7 Steps to Legal Revenge’, it explains how women can use courts to get their own back on unfaithful lovers.

Step 7 says: ‘Go to it and keep your goal in sight. Make sure your victim suffers just as you did.’

In a normal, sane society with a firm grip on what constitutes fairness and justice, hypercunty feminism-soaked revenge fantasists would have to consign themselves to acting out their aggression in their fucked-up heads. The only people who would suffer from their delusions would be the hapless also-ran beta boyfriends competing with the lingering memories of badboy alpha cock like Assange’s piercing the grateful labia of these heartbroken shrikes.

But we in the West don’t live in a sane society. Not anymore. Rabid attack cunts like Ardin and Wilen can now see their revenge fantasies breathed into life, aided and abetted by the feminism-industrial complex, cultural PC-ism, an allied media, and women in positions of influence where their natural inclination toward favoring social cohesion and grrlpower at the expense of justice makes a mockery of the institutions they claim to represent.

By the way, is there anything more repulsive than a “Christian feminist”, as Anna Ardin calls herself? At least you can enjoy a piece of ass with regular secular feminists, which helps makes their inane little opinions tolerable. But a Christian feminist is the worst of both worlds — teeth-gnashingly insipid and prudish. Wow, sign me up! Anyhow, it’s been my observation that self-professed Christian feminists are some of the worst man-hating cunts alive, truly devoid of any sense of empathy or even a rudimentary grasp of fairness. Anna Ardin, in all her glorious hamsterized self-rationalizing hypocrisy, fits the mold perfectly. This is how the Daily Mail describes her job in life:

While a research assistant at a local university she had not only been the protegee of a militant feminist academic, but held the post of ‘campus sexual equity officer’. Fighting male discrimination in all forms, including sexual harassment, was her forte.

If there is something more pointless to do with one’s life, I can’t think of it. The obvious pointlessness explains some of the resentment that people like Ardin nurse against the outside world, and against men specifically. The humanities departments of academia throughout the West have turned into mills for churning out ignorant, man-loathing fascists who envy and hate the inherent freedom of male desire. They are pinkshirts on the prowl for “incorrect thinking”, who see rape in the frosting on a birthday cake. Imagine a high heel stomping on a nutsack, forever. Why do men put up with this shit? Probably because they think assuming a posture of prostration will get them laid. Nominal alphas may have supported feminism in the past as a quick and painless route to easy sex, but today they are in the gun sights as much as any beta. To win at this war, you need true insight into the female mind.

Sweden leads the way in this fembot festival of absurdity, but the other Western (white) nations are not far behind. China will catapult to superpower status this century, not least because they have their heads on straight and see modern feminism for the productivity and innovation sapping insanity it is.

I’ve written before that false rape accusers ought to be punished the same as actual rapists, with jail time. It is as evil as real rape. Their lies destroy lives. Tossing them in jail for years will send a valuable message to women everywhere that they will not escape the consequences of smearing a man who didn’t fulfill their romantic expectations.
While you were sleeping last night, 30,000 kids died of starvation or diseases related to malnutrition.
VelRa_G
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada304 Posts
December 08 2010 20:26 GMT
#526
The extent of the assault on free speech is alarming. As has been said, this is an event of historical emergency. I encourage TLers to consider wrenching their heads out of the opiate that is video gaming for awhile to inform themselves and reflect on the state of the world.
Nuda Veritas
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
December 08 2010 20:38 GMT
#527
"I'm for truth, no matter who tells it. I'm for justice, no matter who it is for or against. I'm a human being, first and foremost, and as such I'm for whoever and whatever benefits humanity as a whole."
— Malcolm X
Twitter: @KingKosi
Krigwin
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1130 Posts
December 08 2010 20:40 GMT
#528
On December 09 2010 05:12 Tony Campolo wrote:
A Roissy summary of the case:

+ Show Spoiler +
So let me see if I have this straight.

Four months ago, fame-whore Anna Ardin had a few telephone and internet conversations with WikiLeaks badboy Julian Assange, a man she had previously only known as a name in the news.

A few telephone calls with an alpha male she didn’t know from Adam is all it took for her vagina to vibrate like a tuning fork. She invited him to stay at her unattended (!) place in Stockholm. She would be away on business.

When he arrived in Stockholm, the radical libertarian Assange “held court” at a local pub with like-minded admirers. The vagina tingles reached critical mass.

Assange’s alphaness must have been so powerful it was telepathic, because Ardin picked up on the disturbance in the electromagnetic spectrum from far away and returned home a day earlier than she had planned. SETI could not locate an extraterrestrial signal so precisely.

Assange was still at her place when she returned. She decided he could continue to stay. Scientists are baffled.

Within mere hours of returning and meeting this man in the flesh for the first time in her life, Ardin and Assange had sex. She is not a total slut, though. She would like you to know that they had dinner beforehand.

During sex, the condom broke. Both confirm this.

The two lovebirds were happy and friendly the next morning, as can be discerned by the fact that Ardin threw a party for him that night.

At a seminar that day, woman #2, Sofia Wilen, felt a strong rush of tingles for Assange because she read about him in the papers.

Wilen set out to meet Assange, by stalking him introducing herself:

[Sofia] would later tell police that she had first seen Assange on television a few weeks before. She had found him ‘interesting, brave and admirable’. As a result, she began to follow the WikiLeaks saga, and when she discovered that he was due to visit Stockholm she contacted the Brotherhood Movement to volunteer to help out at the seminar. Although her offer was not taken up, she decided to attend the seminar anyway and took a large number of photos of Assange during his 90-minute talk.

Lesson: A woman will move heaven and earth to meet an alpha male. When a man does the same thing to meet a woman he likes, he is slapped with a restraining order.

Assange and Wilen went to lunch together with Assange’s friends.

They flirted.

The attraction was mutual. Scientists, still baffled, wonder how an ugly but infamous mofo like Assange could be considered attractive by a cute babe.

After lunch, Assange and Wilen went to see a movie. But Assange had to part early, to attend the party that Ardin was throwing for him that night.

After the party, the future rape accuser Anna Ardin Tweeted that she was “with the coolest people” and that she felt “amazing”.

There were other Tweets of this nature that suggest a state of mind very unlike what one would imagine a recent rape victim would possess.

A couple days later, Sofia meets Assange in Stockholm. She then pays for his train ticket to her home in another Swedish town. Scientists, now knee-deep in bafflement, wonder why a young woman would pay the way of an ugly and poor but infamous libertardian badboy claiming he can’t get money because the CIA tracks his credit card transactions. Sofia’s hamster is about to collapse from exhaustion.

Maxim #21: Betas pay, alphas split, super alphas profit.

Later that night, the two self-satisfied, egomaniacal “activists” make sweet rebellious love as the world burns down around them. Assange wore a condom at night, but raw dogged it in the morning.

Sofia Wilen would later claim that she had asked him to wear a condom in the morning, but he refused. She opened her legs anyway.

On Tuesday, the following day, Wilen and Assange had lunch. She paid for his train ticket again.

Assange forgets rule #1 of successful womanizers: Do NOT concurrently bed mutual acquaintances, particularly those who are proud to call themselves feminists. Wilen calls Ardin, and the two women conspire a false rape charge to exact revenge against the man who treated the purity of their love so cavalierly.

At the police station, the women are interviewed by a female police officer. Charges follow. No, not charges of “cruel and unusual fits of jealousy” but charges of rape and sexual molestation against Assange.

Assange, a figure of ambivalence at best, has as a result of his recent arrest in Britain, epicenter of self-loathing, self-annihilating Westerners, earned street cred with REAL liberty loving men.

What scores of powerful governments around the world have been unable to do, two spurned groupies and a female police officer, along with the backing of the feminist establishment, have been able to orchestrate unhindered.

******

I think that’s the story. What can we learn from this? Let me be blunt.

If Assange is convicted of rape,
then we are all rapists now.

Every man who’s ever had a condom break, or who had condomless sex with a woman who agreed to the sex despite her misgivings, or who has slept with more than one woman in a weekend, is now a rapist. By these standards, half the men in the world would be locked up on rape charges. This is the logical conclusion of feminist thought. I’m sure they secretly love the idea.

Feminists and feminist enablers (you know who you are, you pasty-skinned sunken-chest droopy cartoon muscled faggy-faced white knighters who wear T-shirts that say “this is what a feminist looks like”), here is word from the Committee of Helpful Reminders:

Sex with a woman willingly spreading for a man despite his refusal to wear a condom, and then feeling regret about her sluttiness the next day, is not rape. It is not even rape in emasculated Sweden. Similarly, getting pumped and dumped is not sexual molestation. Hope this helps.

Anna Ardin’s ego was bruised, and her sluttiness broadcast to all her friends. As a result, she set out to seek vengeance against the skirt-chasing man she fell in love with over a heady late summer weekend. She even had a website devoted to plans for exacting just such a revenge scenerio.

Earlier this year, [Anna] is reported to have posted a telling entry on her website, which she has since removed. But a copy has been retrieved and widely circulated on the internet.

Entitled ‘7 Steps to Legal Revenge’, it explains how women can use courts to get their own back on unfaithful lovers.

Step 7 says: ‘Go to it and keep your goal in sight. Make sure your victim suffers just as you did.’

In a normal, sane society with a firm grip on what constitutes fairness and justice, hypercunty feminism-soaked revenge fantasists would have to consign themselves to acting out their aggression in their fucked-up heads. The only people who would suffer from their delusions would be the hapless also-ran beta boyfriends competing with the lingering memories of badboy alpha cock like Assange’s piercing the grateful labia of these heartbroken shrikes.

But we in the West don’t live in a sane society. Not anymore. Rabid attack cunts like Ardin and Wilen can now see their revenge fantasies breathed into life, aided and abetted by the feminism-industrial complex, cultural PC-ism, an allied media, and women in positions of influence where their natural inclination toward favoring social cohesion and grrlpower at the expense of justice makes a mockery of the institutions they claim to represent.

By the way, is there anything more repulsive than a “Christian feminist”, as Anna Ardin calls herself? At least you can enjoy a piece of ass with regular secular feminists, which helps makes their inane little opinions tolerable. But a Christian feminist is the worst of both worlds — teeth-gnashingly insipid and prudish. Wow, sign me up! Anyhow, it’s been my observation that self-professed Christian feminists are some of the worst man-hating cunts alive, truly devoid of any sense of empathy or even a rudimentary grasp of fairness. Anna Ardin, in all her glorious hamsterized self-rationalizing hypocrisy, fits the mold perfectly. This is how the Daily Mail describes her job in life:

While a research assistant at a local university she had not only been the protegee of a militant feminist academic, but held the post of ‘campus sexual equity officer’. Fighting male discrimination in all forms, including sexual harassment, was her forte.

If there is something more pointless to do with one’s life, I can’t think of it. The obvious pointlessness explains some of the resentment that people like Ardin nurse against the outside world, and against men specifically. The humanities departments of academia throughout the West have turned into mills for churning out ignorant, man-loathing fascists who envy and hate the inherent freedom of male desire. They are pinkshirts on the prowl for “incorrect thinking”, who see rape in the frosting on a birthday cake. Imagine a high heel stomping on a nutsack, forever. Why do men put up with this shit? Probably because they think assuming a posture of prostration will get them laid. Nominal alphas may have supported feminism in the past as a quick and painless route to easy sex, but today they are in the gun sights as much as any beta. To win at this war, you need true insight into the female mind.

Sweden leads the way in this fembot festival of absurdity, but the other Western (white) nations are not far behind. China will catapult to superpower status this century, not least because they have their heads on straight and see modern feminism for the productivity and innovation sapping insanity it is.

I’ve written before that false rape accusers ought to be punished the same as actual rapists, with jail time. It is as evil as real rape. Their lies destroy lives. Tossing them in jail for years will send a valuable message to women everywhere that they will not escape the consequences of smearing a man who didn’t fulfill their romantic expectations.

That was hilarious, thanks.

This entire dog and pony show is a circus and an affront to legal systems everywhere.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
December 08 2010 20:41 GMT
#529
good riddance, the guys a creep, and people support him blindly.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 20:44:46
December 08 2010 20:42 GMT
#530
On December 09 2010 05:41 WniO wrote:
good riddance, the guys a creep, and people support him blindly.

sir if you had read the thread you would know it is you who is blind.

Another US sheep contributing nothing to this topic.
Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
December 08 2010 20:51 GMT
#531
Usually I support the flavor of the month thing that people on the internet freak out about, but I can't jump on this bandwagon. I support some of the things wikileaks has released, but a lot of their recent actions and media whoring is ridiculous.

And no, I am not a fucking sheep just because I don't agree with you. I have many beliefs that are not popular.
#1 Kwanro Fan
ev8
Profile Joined October 2010
United States112 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 20:53:47
December 08 2010 20:53 GMT
#532

Every man who’s ever had a condom break, or who had condomless sex with a woman who agreed to the sex despite her misgivings, or who has slept with more than one woman in a weekend, is now a rapist. By these standards, half the men in the world would be locked up on rape charges.


Defense's closing statement will consist of these ideas, reworded. Verdict will be not guilty.
"where are my uni- what are you - how are you doing? what are you doing?"
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 08 2010 21:00 GMT
#533
On December 09 2010 05:51 Bosu wrote:
Usually I support the flavor of the month thing that people on the internet freak out about, but I can't jump on this bandwagon. I support some of the things wikileaks has released, but a lot of their recent actions and media whoring is ridiculous.

And no, I am not a fucking sheep just because I don't agree with you. I have many beliefs that are not popular.


could you please elaborate on wikileaks media whoring?
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
December 08 2010 21:04 GMT
#534
Don't know about you guys in other countries but it seems that every British media outlet I am reading is skewering its reportage against Assange. Entire paragraphs are dedicated to destabilising his reputation and painting his lawyer as a conspiracy theory crackpot. Then further entire paragraphs are dedicated to consistently painting the accusers as poor, unfortunate victims of someone who was potentially trying to infect them with HIV; and edifying their defence lawyer as a moral pillar, a legal behemoth whose sheer involvement in the case immediately lends gravity and sanctity to his clients' side.

Almost every media outlet I have seen has so far either ignored anything about the CIA links that Ardin has or dismissed them off-hand as 'one of the wilder conspiracy theories'. It's really quite disgraceful that even the BBC are skewering their journalism.
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 21:12:33
December 08 2010 21:06 GMT
#535
On December 09 2010 05:51 Bosu wrote:
Usually I support the flavor of the month thing that people on the internet freak out about, but I can't jump on this bandwagon. I support some of the things wikileaks has released, but a lot of their recent actions and media whoring is ridiculous.

And no, I am not a fucking sheep just because I don't agree with you. I have many beliefs that are not popular.


Sure disagree but dont come here shit on the guy without reading the thread. like the dude i quoted did.

There hasn't been many rational arguments against wikileaks. I can't think of any rational ones no. You still haven't presented one.
NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
December 08 2010 21:10 GMT
#536
From what I know, even if he gets send back to Sweden and has to go court, I'm quite sure he will go free considering the Swedish law system. (We are really heavy on the ''rather send a guilty man free then an innocent man to prison.) And since the case (seems) to be very weak against him, I'm quite sure he will go free.

Unless someone really is pulling the strings and the Judges end up corrupted.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
December 08 2010 21:25 GMT
#537
On December 09 2010 05:42 Nizaris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 05:41 WniO wrote:
good riddance, the guys a creep, and people support him blindly.

sir if you had read the thread you would know it is you who is blind.

Another US sheep contributing nothing to this topic.

i know you think the real world works like v for vendetta, but how am i a sheep? is it because i have a different view on this guy than you? sorry then.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-08 21:49:10
December 08 2010 21:48 GMT
#538
On December 09 2010 06:25 WniO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 05:42 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 05:41 WniO wrote:
good riddance, the guys a creep, and people support him blindly.

sir if you had read the thread you would know it is you who is blind.

Another US sheep contributing nothing to this topic.

i know you think the real world works like v for vendetta, but how am i a sheep? is it because i have a different view on this guy than you? sorry then.


maybe, just maybe because you didn't gave any reasons, you termed the supporters blindy, even tho I have read alot of good reasons in this thread why wikileaks should be supported and you haven't given any reasons yourself why this isn't the case?
Danzepol
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States211 Posts
December 08 2010 21:59 GMT
#539
i knew something smelled a little funky the moment i heard about wikileaks.
in a fox with a box
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
December 08 2010 22:06 GMT
#540
On December 09 2010 06:25 WniO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2010 05:42 Nizaris wrote:
On December 09 2010 05:41 WniO wrote:
good riddance, the guys a creep, and people support him blindly.

sir if you had read the thread you would know it is you who is blind.

Another US sheep contributing nothing to this topic.

i know you think the real world works like v for vendetta, but how am i a sheep? is it because i have a different view on this guy than you? sorry then.


He is not a criminal. He is a defender of your civil and human rights.

good riddance? u want him to dissapear ? If anything happens to him i hope you realize how fucked up the system is. But you won't because you are a sheep.

a creep? does that mean you believe in the sex charges? or just throwing random stuff at the guy without any basis?
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