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I think the Julian is back at the Times votelist.
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can i get the link to wikileaks? the main doesnt work!
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On December 08 2010 09:27 Drowsy wrote:
They needed to get him and excoriate him somehow, so they chose the one crime besides terrorism where you don't need jack shit for proof to detain somebody. A complete travesty, I hope he's freed soon.
Exactly what i thought.
This situation is escalating rather quickly.
edit: Wikileaks is down for me too.
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Omg what a bunch of bullcrap. Is this for real? I mean c'mon, do they really think anyone will buy that pile of ....? Even people with a half of brain can smell this one out from a mile away.
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Why do they bother showing pictures of the girls if they blur them out!?
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He's on the Time poll for me, I don't know what that was about. Did they take him down for just a few hours or something?
Also, at the DynCorp thing. I think that might be the most messed up thing I have ever heard out of Afghanistan/Iraq, even worse than all the Blackwater stuff. That is incredibly messed up.
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WE shall just have to see where this leads. I wont jump to so it is some kind of conspiracy, if it was Wikileaks it self I am sure would be the first place you would hear about it.
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On December 08 2010 09:41 Krigwin wrote:
He's on the Time poll for me, I don't know what that was about. Did they take him down for just a few hours or something?
Also, at the DynCorp thing. I think that might be the most messed up thing I have ever heard out of Afghanistan/Iraq, even worse than all the Blackwater stuff. That is incredibly messed up.
That is just a bunch of mass twitted crap. He isn't on the giant 100 list and I don't believe he was, he is still number 1 for times person of the year, if you look under the 'times 2010 mvp blah blah"
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On December 08 2010 09:40 DoubleReed wrote:
Why do they bother showing pictures of the girls if they blur them out!?
dramatic effect. fooling stupid people.
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Interesting move by Assange in this increasingly epic game of cat and mouse. Unless Western governments have got another card up their sleeve, this may be checkmate for them! Interested to see what else Assange has got planned.
Although this is interesting: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/12/wikileaks-reels/
It seems like targeting Wikileaks' finances and organizational structure was the right move. I wonder what'll happen next =\
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On December 08 2010 05:01 Half wrote:Honestly you people shouldn't hate on U.S. soldiers, no matter how much you disagree with the war. Its really disgusting. I basically hail the Assange as a hero, and while I often condemn the actions of the U.S. government, would never do so of soldiers (who are not actively committing war crimes of course) Realize that the actions of these soldiers are critical to sustaining your way of life. Its the inevitability of late capitalism. How do you think the average American citizen consumes roughly 3x as much resources as those in other developed nations, and 50x as much as those in 3rd world nations? Late capitalism is dependent on a strong military industrial complex in order to protect foreign "investments" of American capitalists. You and your politicians reap the economic benefits payed for in blood. The blood of Iraqis, and your own soldiers, most whom came from a lower socio-economic background. Condemning these soldiers is literally the ultimate disgrace. Sure, the military industrial complex is an abomination in this country, but the foot soldiers are no less its victims then the iraqis who have died. So yeah, U.S. politicians and generals are scum. But the flesh and blood who die defending your interests are not. Show nested quote +
OH.. cool, thanks for the explanation. So whats up with the guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech? (no trolls allowed Whiladan)
TL is a private forum incurring no negative externalities outside of itself.
Hate the war not the soliders.
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On December 08 2010 10:08 us.insurgency wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 05:01 Half wrote:Honestly you people shouldn't hate on U.S. soldiers, no matter how much you disagree with the war. Its really disgusting. I basically hail the Assange as a hero, and while I often condemn the actions of the U.S. government, would never do so of soldiers (who are not actively committing war crimes of course) Realize that the actions of these soldiers are critical to sustaining your way of life. Its the inevitability of late capitalism. How do you think the average American citizen consumes roughly 3x as much resources as those in other developed nations, and 50x as much as those in 3rd world nations? Late capitalism is dependent on a strong military industrial complex in order to protect foreign "investments" of American capitalists. You and your politicians reap the economic benefits payed for in blood. The blood of Iraqis, and your own soldiers, most whom came from a lower socio-economic background. Condemning these soldiers is literally the ultimate disgrace. Sure, the military industrial complex is an abomination in this country, but the foot soldiers are no less its victims then the iraqis who have died. So yeah, U.S. politicians and generals are scum. But the flesh and blood who die defending your interests are not.
OH.. cool, thanks for the explanation. So whats up with the guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech? (no trolls allowed Whiladan)
TL is a private forum incurring no negative externalities outside of itself. Hate the war not the soliders.
like hate the KKK not its members?
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There are over 1k wiki mirrors now!
..... The fire has spread. Jullian's arrest has sparked the fire he hoped it would!
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On December 08 2010 10:17 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 10:08 us.insurgency wrote:On December 08 2010 05:01 Half wrote:Honestly you people shouldn't hate on U.S. soldiers, no matter how much you disagree with the war. Its really disgusting. I basically hail the Assange as a hero, and while I often condemn the actions of the U.S. government, would never do so of soldiers (who are not actively committing war crimes of course) Realize that the actions of these soldiers are critical to sustaining your way of life. Its the inevitability of late capitalism. How do you think the average American citizen consumes roughly 3x as much resources as those in other developed nations, and 50x as much as those in 3rd world nations? Late capitalism is dependent on a strong military industrial complex in order to protect foreign "investments" of American capitalists. You and your politicians reap the economic benefits payed for in blood. The blood of Iraqis, and your own soldiers, most whom came from a lower socio-economic background. Condemning these soldiers is literally the ultimate disgrace. Sure, the military industrial complex is an abomination in this country, but the foot soldiers are no less its victims then the iraqis who have died. So yeah, U.S. politicians and generals are scum. But the flesh and blood who die defending your interests are not.
OH.. cool, thanks for the explanation. So whats up with the guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech? (no trolls allowed Whiladan)
TL is a private forum incurring no negative externalities outside of itself. Hate the war not the soliders. like hate the KKK not its members?
That's really not the same thing...
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On December 08 2010 10:24 Goobus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 10:17 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On December 08 2010 10:08 us.insurgency wrote:On December 08 2010 05:01 Half wrote:Honestly you people shouldn't hate on U.S. soldiers, no matter how much you disagree with the war. Its really disgusting. I basically hail the Assange as a hero, and while I often condemn the actions of the U.S. government, would never do so of soldiers (who are not actively committing war crimes of course) Realize that the actions of these soldiers are critical to sustaining your way of life. Its the inevitability of late capitalism. How do you think the average American citizen consumes roughly 3x as much resources as those in other developed nations, and 50x as much as those in 3rd world nations? Late capitalism is dependent on a strong military industrial complex in order to protect foreign "investments" of American capitalists. You and your politicians reap the economic benefits payed for in blood. The blood of Iraqis, and your own soldiers, most whom came from a lower socio-economic background. Condemning these soldiers is literally the ultimate disgrace. Sure, the military industrial complex is an abomination in this country, but the foot soldiers are no less its victims then the iraqis who have died. So yeah, U.S. politicians and generals are scum. But the flesh and blood who die defending your interests are not.
OH.. cool, thanks for the explanation. So whats up with the guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech? (no trolls allowed Whiladan)
TL is a private forum incurring no negative externalities outside of itself. Hate the war not the soliders. like hate the KKK not its members? That's really not the same thing...
can you elaborate on that? for me its the exact same thing.
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On December 08 2010 10:24 Goobus wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 10:17 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On December 08 2010 10:08 us.insurgency wrote:On December 08 2010 05:01 Half wrote:Honestly you people shouldn't hate on U.S. soldiers, no matter how much you disagree with the war. Its really disgusting. I basically hail the Assange as a hero, and while I often condemn the actions of the U.S. government, would never do so of soldiers (who are not actively committing war crimes of course) Realize that the actions of these soldiers are critical to sustaining your way of life. Its the inevitability of late capitalism. How do you think the average American citizen consumes roughly 3x as much resources as those in other developed nations, and 50x as much as those in 3rd world nations? Late capitalism is dependent on a strong military industrial complex in order to protect foreign "investments" of American capitalists. You and your politicians reap the economic benefits payed for in blood. The blood of Iraqis, and your own soldiers, most whom came from a lower socio-economic background. Condemning these soldiers is literally the ultimate disgrace. Sure, the military industrial complex is an abomination in this country, but the foot soldiers are no less its victims then the iraqis who have died. So yeah, U.S. politicians and generals are scum. But the flesh and blood who die defending your interests are not.
OH.. cool, thanks for the explanation. So whats up with the guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech? (no trolls allowed Whiladan)
TL is a private forum incurring no negative externalities outside of itself. Hate the war not the soliders. like hate the KKK not its members? That's really not the same thing...
Not in the case of the us military in iraq or afghan. but in the case of the nazi-german military it was.
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Assange is an attention-seeking egomaniac who doesn't trust his own organization enough to give them operating plans in the case of his absence. It's a small wonder he has no respect for classified information obviously meant to be private. I'm all for transparency and openness, do the cables do anything to corrupt governments? China has banned half of the internet to its civilians; North Korea doesn't even have internet. And threatening to release information if captured? That's not honest behavior; that's something the mafia takes pride in.
Assange has become that which he supposedly fights against; he's a one-man dictatorship, he controls his organization's information for their own protection (since he knows best, of course) and he's as much a terrorist as Kim Jong-il rattling his saber then threatening to nuke Seoul if attacked.
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On December 08 2010 10:30 AttackZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 10:24 Goobus wrote:On December 08 2010 10:17 WhuazGoodJaggah wrote:On December 08 2010 10:08 us.insurgency wrote:On December 08 2010 05:01 Half wrote:Honestly you people shouldn't hate on U.S. soldiers, no matter how much you disagree with the war. Its really disgusting. I basically hail the Assange as a hero, and while I often condemn the actions of the U.S. government, would never do so of soldiers (who are not actively committing war crimes of course) Realize that the actions of these soldiers are critical to sustaining your way of life. Its the inevitability of late capitalism. How do you think the average American citizen consumes roughly 3x as much resources as those in other developed nations, and 50x as much as those in 3rd world nations? Late capitalism is dependent on a strong military industrial complex in order to protect foreign "investments" of American capitalists. You and your politicians reap the economic benefits payed for in blood. The blood of Iraqis, and your own soldiers, most whom came from a lower socio-economic background. Condemning these soldiers is literally the ultimate disgrace. Sure, the military industrial complex is an abomination in this country, but the foot soldiers are no less its victims then the iraqis who have died. So yeah, U.S. politicians and generals are scum. But the flesh and blood who die defending your interests are not.
OH.. cool, thanks for the explanation. So whats up with the guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech? (no trolls allowed Whiladan)
TL is a private forum incurring no negative externalities outside of itself. Hate the war not the soliders. like hate the KKK not its members? That's really not the same thing... Not in the case of the us military in iraq or afghan. but in the case of the nazi-german military it was.
because KKK = evil and Nazis = evil and US Military =/= evil?
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