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On December 08 2010 04:23 FrostOtter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:21 Nizaris wrote:On December 08 2010 04:19 FrostOtter wrote:On December 08 2010 04:14 Cpt.beefy wrote:On December 08 2010 04:07 FrostOtter wrote:On December 08 2010 04:04 Ceril wrote:
Assange is almost up there with the founding fathers for standing for what he belive will make a better world. Remember that thoose guys today would be classified terrorists/political dissidents by the US gov for their ideas clad for a modern day if they were to reincarnate in the US. You must know what you are taking about, since you live in America and all. Or can I start telling you how the Swedish people feel? His option is as valid as ANY DEMOCRATIC member of society. I love how your argument is as arrogant as WE invented free-speech because Im an american.... jesus man listen to yourself. This guy is under-arrest for using his FREE-SPEECH and you still don't wanna hear other people's opinion on it cos there not from the land of the free?! LOL! Can you please point to where I said that we invented free speech? Could you also point to where I said that other people's opinions don't matter? I believe what I said is not to tell us how we think, not don't tell us what you think of us. The guy is under arrest for rape, or surprise sex, or whatever. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, all you are doing is conjecturing. Why is the US seeking extradition in a Swedish Surprise Sex case. If that is the case, then I am guessing that they feel he has broken a US law in addition to whatever Swedish charges there are. Freedom of speech has limits-- everyone knows that. It might not be for me to say what those limits are, but they do exist. Just like how you cannot shout "fire" in a crowded theater or advocate the violent overthrow of the government. These are not laws unique to America.
Yes they are seeking extradition i posted a BBC link a couple post back.
Freedom of speech apparently includes classified documents.
Should read, i know you probably won't its been posted like 5 times in this topic,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._United_States
+ Show Spoiler +New York Times Co. v. United States, 403 U.S. 713 (1971), was a United States Supreme Court per curiam decision. The ruling made it possible for the New York Times and Washington Post newspapers to publish the then-classified Pentagon Papers without risk of government censure.
President Richard Nixon had claimed executive authority to force the Times to suspend publication of classified information in its possession. The question before the court was whether the constitutional freedom of the press under the First Amendment was subordinate to a claimed Executive need to maintain the secrecy of information. The Supreme Court ruled that First Amendment did protect the New York Times' right to print said materials.
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Finally that idiot turned himself in. The one decent thing he has done. Good riddance.
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On December 08 2010 04:24 Whiladan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:17 Uriel_SVK wrote:On December 08 2010 03:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:45 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:43 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:35 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:26 Bartuc wrote:On December 08 2010 03:25 Whiladan wrote:
Irrelevant, unnecessary, and hilariously wrong.
That's your opinion. For me, Assange has done far more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_DunhamShould we next debate the definition of heroism? I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes. Their's is not to reason why; their's is but to do and die. Until you have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend your friends or partners-in-arms or what have you, kindly go away and stop slandering those greater than yourself. Since you are still alive, I guess you have not done that as well  Seriously, under which rock have you come from? Kill 1000 people and you are a hero, kill 1 person and you are a murderer. Does that sound familiar? No, but I am not claiming that they are idiots either, am I? EDIT: BTW, I look forward to trading my blood for oil after Basic Training this spring. Brainwashed, ... dont get me wrong, but I am sorry for you. You think that going to a foreign country and kill people there means protecting your family and friends. It does not. It means just killing people who are defending their home, families and friends. You are not defending against enemy, you are attacking. + Show Spoiler +PS: Send photos of that weapons of mass destruction when you find them Don't get me wrong, but don't act like you understand the reason that I am joining the military. My family has been in the Army the Civil War. Not to mention free healthcare, free housing, free food, education, and a top secret clearance that sets you up for a successful career in the government? Nah, I probably just want to kill some Afghans. Side note, I've contributed to derailing this thread enough. Assange is not evil, nor is he a hero. Even though nothing has actually happened yet, I can't say I would be sympathetic if his acts came back to bite him in the ass.
So you are getting paid to kill ppl. I am so glad we have ppl like you on this planet.
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On December 08 2010 04:32 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:23 FrostOtter wrote:On December 08 2010 04:21 Nizaris wrote:On December 08 2010 04:19 FrostOtter wrote:On December 08 2010 04:14 Cpt.beefy wrote:On December 08 2010 04:07 FrostOtter wrote:On December 08 2010 04:04 Ceril wrote:
Assange is almost up there with the founding fathers for standing for what he belive will make a better world. Remember that thoose guys today would be classified terrorists/political dissidents by the US gov for their ideas clad for a modern day if they were to reincarnate in the US. You must know what you are taking about, since you live in America and all. Or can I start telling you how the Swedish people feel? His option is as valid as ANY DEMOCRATIC member of society. I love how your argument is as arrogant as WE invented free-speech because Im an american.... jesus man listen to yourself. This guy is under-arrest for using his FREE-SPEECH and you still don't wanna hear other people's opinion on it cos there not from the land of the free?! LOL! Can you please point to where I said that we invented free speech? Could you also point to where I said that other people's opinions don't matter? I believe what I said is not to tell us how we think, not don't tell us what you think of us. The guy is under arrest for rape, or surprise sex, or whatever. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, all you are doing is conjecturing. Why is the US seeking extradition in a Swedish Surprise Sex case. If that is the case, then I am guessing that they feel he has broken a US law in addition to whatever Swedish charges there are. Freedom of speech has limits-- everyone knows that. It might not be for me to say what those limits are, but they do exist. Just like how you cannot shout "fire" in a crowded theater or advocate the violent overthrow of the government. These are not laws unique to America. Yes they are seeking extradition i posted a BBC link a couple post back. Freedom of speech apparently includes classified documents. Should read, i know you probably won't its been posted like 5 times in this topic, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Times_Co._v._United_States+ Show Spoiler +New York Times Co. v. United States, 403 U.S. 713 (1971), was a United States Supreme Court per curiam decision. The ruling made it possible for the New York Times and Washington Post newspapers to publish the then-classified Pentagon Papers without risk of government censure.
President Richard Nixon had claimed executive authority to force the Times to suspend publication of classified information in its possession. The question before the court was whether the constitutional freedom of the press under the First Amendment was subordinate to a claimed Executive need to maintain the secrecy of information. The Supreme Court ruled that First Amendment did protect the New York Times' right to print said materials.
And if you had read further you would have found that the ruling in that case was predicated on that the NYT has not violated any of the three exceptions to free speech as outlined in Near v. Minnesota, part of which reads
"No one would question but that a government might prevent actual obstruction to its recruiting service or the publication of the sailing dates of transports or the number and location of troops."
Whether he has actually broken the law or not is up to the courts, but I can see why some would think he has.
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On December 08 2010 04:34 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:24 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 04:17 Uriel_SVK wrote:On December 08 2010 03:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:45 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:43 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:35 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:26 Bartuc wrote:On December 08 2010 03:25 Whiladan wrote:
Irrelevant, unnecessary, and hilariously wrong.
That's your opinion. For me, Assange has done far more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_DunhamShould we next debate the definition of heroism? I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes. Their's is not to reason why; their's is but to do and die. Until you have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend your friends or partners-in-arms or what have you, kindly go away and stop slandering those greater than yourself. Since you are still alive, I guess you have not done that as well Seriously, under which rock have you come from? Kill 1000 people and you are a hero, kill 1 person and you are a murderer. Does that sound familiar? No, but I am not claiming that they are idiots either, am I? EDIT: BTW, I look forward to trading my blood for oil after Basic Training this spring. Brainwashed, ... dont get me wrong, but I am sorry for you. You think that going to a foreign country and kill people there means protecting your family and friends. It does not. It means just killing people who are defending their home, families and friends. You are not defending against enemy, you are attacking. + Show Spoiler +PS: Send photos of that weapons of mass destruction when you find them Don't get me wrong, but don't act like you understand the reason that I am joining the military. My family has been in the Army the Civil War. Not to mention free healthcare, free housing, free food, education, and a top secret clearance that sets you up for a successful career in the government? Nah, I probably just want to kill some Afghans. Side note, I've contributed to derailing this thread enough. Assange is not evil, nor is he a hero. Even though nothing has actually happened yet, I can't say I would be sympathetic if his acts came back to bite him in the ass. So you are getting paid to kill ppl. I am so glad we have ppl like you on this planet.
Belgium has time and time again proven that it has no military.
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On December 08 2010 04:34 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:24 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 04:17 Uriel_SVK wrote:On December 08 2010 03:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:45 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:43 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:35 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:26 Bartuc wrote:On December 08 2010 03:25 Whiladan wrote:
Irrelevant, unnecessary, and hilariously wrong.
That's your opinion. For me, Assange has done far more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_DunhamShould we next debate the definition of heroism? I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes. Their's is not to reason why; their's is but to do and die. Until you have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend your friends or partners-in-arms or what have you, kindly go away and stop slandering those greater than yourself. Since you are still alive, I guess you have not done that as well Seriously, under which rock have you come from? Kill 1000 people and you are a hero, kill 1 person and you are a murderer. Does that sound familiar? No, but I am not claiming that they are idiots either, am I? EDIT: BTW, I look forward to trading my blood for oil after Basic Training this spring. Brainwashed, ... dont get me wrong, but I am sorry for you. You think that going to a foreign country and kill people there means protecting your family and friends. It does not. It means just killing people who are defending their home, families and friends. You are not defending against enemy, you are attacking. + Show Spoiler +PS: Send photos of that weapons of mass destruction when you find them Don't get me wrong, but don't act like you understand the reason that I am joining the military. My family has been in the Army the Civil War. Not to mention free healthcare, free housing, free food, education, and a top secret clearance that sets you up for a successful career in the government? Nah, I probably just want to kill some Afghans. Side note, I've contributed to derailing this thread enough. Assange is not evil, nor is he a hero. Even though nothing has actually happened yet, I can't say I would be sympathetic if his acts came back to bite him in the ass. So you are getting paid to kill ppl. I am so glad we have ppl like you on this planet.
He's only paid to kill people if he's actually going to join a combat unit. He could be getting paid to help other people kill people (or help other people stay alive depending on your point of view). Don't forget that combat medics are in the military too.
/Still think joining an institution where you are a pawn is pretty stupid but not all pawns get to kill people, sometime they just set up the board to let the other pieces do work (or get sacraficed).
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On December 08 2010 04:34 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:24 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 04:17 Uriel_SVK wrote:On December 08 2010 03:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:45 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:43 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:35 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:26 Bartuc wrote:On December 08 2010 03:25 Whiladan wrote:
Irrelevant, unnecessary, and hilariously wrong.
That's your opinion. For me, Assange has done far more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_DunhamShould we next debate the definition of heroism? I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes. Their's is not to reason why; their's is but to do and die. Until you have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend your friends or partners-in-arms or what have you, kindly go away and stop slandering those greater than yourself. Since you are still alive, I guess you have not done that as well Seriously, under which rock have you come from? Kill 1000 people and you are a hero, kill 1 person and you are a murderer. Does that sound familiar? No, but I am not claiming that they are idiots either, am I? EDIT: BTW, I look forward to trading my blood for oil after Basic Training this spring. Brainwashed, ... dont get me wrong, but I am sorry for you. You think that going to a foreign country and kill people there means protecting your family and friends. It does not. It means just killing people who are defending their home, families and friends. You are not defending against enemy, you are attacking. + Show Spoiler +PS: Send photos of that weapons of mass destruction when you find them Don't get me wrong, but don't act like you understand the reason that I am joining the military. My family has been in the Army the Civil War. Not to mention free healthcare, free housing, free food, education, and a top secret clearance that sets you up for a successful career in the government? Nah, I probably just want to kill some Afghans. Side note, I've contributed to derailing this thread enough. Assange is not evil, nor is he a hero. Even though nothing has actually happened yet, I can't say I would be sympathetic if his acts came back to bite him in the ass. So you are getting paid to kill ppl. I am so glad we have ppl like you on this planet.
Don't worry, Belgium has no natural resources.
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On December 08 2010 04:41 ZeaL. wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:34 Nizaris wrote:On December 08 2010 04:24 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 04:17 Uriel_SVK wrote:On December 08 2010 03:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:45 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:43 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:35 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:26 Bartuc wrote:
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That's your opinion. For me, Assange has done far more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_DunhamShould we next debate the definition of heroism? I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes. Their's is not to reason why; their's is but to do and die. Until you have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend your friends or partners-in-arms or what have you, kindly go away and stop slandering those greater than yourself. Since you are still alive, I guess you have not done that as well Seriously, under which rock have you come from? Kill 1000 people and you are a hero, kill 1 person and you are a murderer. Does that sound familiar? No, but I am not claiming that they are idiots either, am I? EDIT: BTW, I look forward to trading my blood for oil after Basic Training this spring. Brainwashed, ... dont get me wrong, but I am sorry for you. You think that going to a foreign country and kill people there means protecting your family and friends. It does not. It means just killing people who are defending their home, families and friends. You are not defending against enemy, you are attacking. + Show Spoiler +PS: Send photos of that weapons of mass destruction when you find them Don't get me wrong, but don't act like you understand the reason that I am joining the military. My family has been in the Army the Civil War. Not to mention free healthcare, free housing, free food, education, and a top secret clearance that sets you up for a successful career in the government? Nah, I probably just want to kill some Afghans. Side note, I've contributed to derailing this thread enough. Assange is not evil, nor is he a hero. Even though nothing has actually happened yet, I can't say I would be sympathetic if his acts came back to bite him in the ass. So you are getting paid to kill ppl. I am so glad we have ppl like you on this planet. He's only paid to kill people if he's actually going to join a combat unit. He could be getting paid to help other people kill people (or help other people stay alive depending on your point of view). Don't forget that combat medics are in the military too. /Still think joining an institution where you are a pawn is pretty stupid but not all pawns get to kill people, sometime they just set up the board to let the other pieces do work (or get sacraficed).
Let's also remember that the military is, ostensibly, for the purpose of protecting our country and our allies. Whether or not it is used that way is a flaw in our politicians, not our soldiers.
Also, could you maybe tell me what organizations one can join where one does not start out as a pawn?
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So whats up with guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech?
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On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 03:35 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:26 Bartuc wrote:On December 08 2010 03:25 Whiladan wrote:
Irrelevant, unnecessary, and hilariously wrong.
That's your opinion. For me, Assange has done far more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_DunhamShould we next debate the definition of heroism? I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes.
Regardless of the political reasons for the War, Jason Dunham probably had more courage and heroism in a grain of salt off of his cammies then your entire disgusting armchair general self.
Must be nice to talk shit about people that sacrificed themselves to save their friends
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On December 08 2010 04:48 Phantasy wrote:
So whats up with guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech?
This is a web-forum, not the U.S.A.
Point being, they are different animals and follow a different set of rules and expectations. Freedom of speech is not a right on a privately-owned web-forum..
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On December 08 2010 00:53 Whiladan wrote:
Australian man hands himself into British police over warrant for arrest put out in Sweden.
Fucking Americans.
^ This man speaks the truth, lets not argue with conspiracies, like the U.S. has some foothold over sweden and made them put out a warrant? No, just use the facts we know so far.
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On December 08 2010 04:39 FrostOtter wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:34 Nizaris wrote:On December 08 2010 04:24 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 04:17 Uriel_SVK wrote:On December 08 2010 03:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:45 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:43 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:35 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:26 Bartuc wrote:
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That's your opinion. For me, Assange has done far more. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_DunhamShould we next debate the definition of heroism? I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes. Their's is not to reason why; their's is but to do and die. Until you have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend your friends or partners-in-arms or what have you, kindly go away and stop slandering those greater than yourself. Since you are still alive, I guess you have not done that as well Seriously, under which rock have you come from? Kill 1000 people and you are a hero, kill 1 person and you are a murderer. Does that sound familiar? No, but I am not claiming that they are idiots either, am I? EDIT: BTW, I look forward to trading my blood for oil after Basic Training this spring. Brainwashed, ... dont get me wrong, but I am sorry for you. You think that going to a foreign country and kill people there means protecting your family and friends. It does not. It means just killing people who are defending their home, families and friends. You are not defending against enemy, you are attacking. + Show Spoiler +PS: Send photos of that weapons of mass destruction when you find them Don't get me wrong, but don't act like you understand the reason that I am joining the military. My family has been in the Army the Civil War. Not to mention free healthcare, free housing, free food, education, and a top secret clearance that sets you up for a successful career in the government? Nah, I probably just want to kill some Afghans. Side note, I've contributed to derailing this thread enough. Assange is not evil, nor is he a hero. Even though nothing has actually happened yet, I can't say I would be sympathetic if his acts came back to bite him in the ass. So you are getting paid to kill ppl. I am so glad we have ppl like you on this planet. Belgium has time and time again proven that it has no military.
And how is that a bad thing exactly? I dont see yours solving any problems you have quite the contrary.
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On December 08 2010 04:52 Shindrah wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 00:53 Whiladan wrote:
Australian man hands himself into British police over warrant for arrest put out in Sweden.
Fucking Americans. ^ This man speaks the truth, lets not argue with conspiracies, like the U.S. has some foothold over sweden and made them put out a warrant? No, just use the facts we know so far.
Especially since, in my understanding of Swedish culture, Sweden seems to be one of the last countries in Europe to suspect of being a pawn of the United States (all the trouble with copyright, for instance).
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On December 08 2010 04:50 Whiladan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:48 Phantasy wrote:
So whats up with guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech? This is a web-forum, not the U.S.A. Point being, they are different animals and follow a different set of rules and expectations. Freedom of speech is not a right on a privately-owned web-forum..
My apologies. I thought there was continuity in ethics and expectations. I guess you can say that I don't care what you say since your online and posting documents online, but then say its okay if I'm standing next to you in Britain. You win, bro.
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On December 08 2010 04:52 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:39 FrostOtter wrote:On December 08 2010 04:34 Nizaris wrote:On December 08 2010 04:24 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 04:17 Uriel_SVK wrote:On December 08 2010 03:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:45 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:43 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes. Their's is not to reason why; their's is but to do and die. Until you have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend your friends or partners-in-arms or what have you, kindly go away and stop slandering those greater than yourself. Since you are still alive, I guess you have not done that as well Seriously, under which rock have you come from? Kill 1000 people and you are a hero, kill 1 person and you are a murderer. Does that sound familiar? No, but I am not claiming that they are idiots either, am I? EDIT: BTW, I look forward to trading my blood for oil after Basic Training this spring. Brainwashed, ... dont get me wrong, but I am sorry for you. You think that going to a foreign country and kill people there means protecting your family and friends. It does not. It means just killing people who are defending their home, families and friends. You are not defending against enemy, you are attacking. + Show Spoiler +PS: Send photos of that weapons of mass destruction when you find them Don't get me wrong, but don't act like you understand the reason that I am joining the military. My family has been in the Army the Civil War. Not to mention free healthcare, free housing, free food, education, and a top secret clearance that sets you up for a successful career in the government? Nah, I probably just want to kill some Afghans. Side note, I've contributed to derailing this thread enough. Assange is not evil, nor is he a hero. Even though nothing has actually happened yet, I can't say I would be sympathetic if his acts came back to bite him in the ass. So you are getting paid to kill ppl. I am so glad we have ppl like you on this planet. Belgium has time and time again proven that it has no military. And how is that a bad thing exactly? I dont see yours solving any problems you have quite the contrary.
Because I would rather have a decent military that I know is capable of protecting my country if necessary, and when appropriate take action against politicians who would misuse that military, than be completely helpless against any aggressive foreign powers.
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Sexual criminals are nowadays sought by Interpol. Right.
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On December 08 2010 04:52 Nizaris wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:39 FrostOtter wrote:On December 08 2010 04:34 Nizaris wrote:On December 08 2010 04:24 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 04:17 Uriel_SVK wrote:On December 08 2010 03:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:45 -Archangel- wrote:On December 08 2010 03:43 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 03:40 -Archangel- wrote:I know my next statement is going to make you mad but it needs to be said for people like you. Since USA had no business to even be in Iraq, every USA soldier that died there is not a hero but an idiot for letting his government send him there. You can only be a hero if you do something like that in a defensive war. I am sure none of the German soldiers in WWII are called heroes. Their's is not to reason why; their's is but to do and die. Until you have given the ultimate sacrifice to defend your friends or partners-in-arms or what have you, kindly go away and stop slandering those greater than yourself. Since you are still alive, I guess you have not done that as well Seriously, under which rock have you come from? Kill 1000 people and you are a hero, kill 1 person and you are a murderer. Does that sound familiar? No, but I am not claiming that they are idiots either, am I? EDIT: BTW, I look forward to trading my blood for oil after Basic Training this spring. Brainwashed, ... dont get me wrong, but I am sorry for you. You think that going to a foreign country and kill people there means protecting your family and friends. It does not. It means just killing people who are defending their home, families and friends. You are not defending against enemy, you are attacking. + Show Spoiler +PS: Send photos of that weapons of mass destruction when you find them Don't get me wrong, but don't act like you understand the reason that I am joining the military. My family has been in the Army the Civil War. Not to mention free healthcare, free housing, free food, education, and a top secret clearance that sets you up for a successful career in the government? Nah, I probably just want to kill some Afghans. Side note, I've contributed to derailing this thread enough. Assange is not evil, nor is he a hero. Even though nothing has actually happened yet, I can't say I would be sympathetic if his acts came back to bite him in the ass. So you are getting paid to kill ppl. I am so glad we have ppl like you on this planet. Belgium has time and time again proven that it has no military. And how is that a bad thing exactly? I dont see yours solving any problems you have quite the contrary.
I guess they don't teach you guys about WW1 and 2 huh?
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On December 08 2010 04:54 Phantasy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2010 04:50 Whiladan wrote:On December 08 2010 04:48 Phantasy wrote:
So whats up with guys who get banned on tl.net forums and no one stands up for their freedom of speech? This is a web-forum, not the U.S.A. Point being, they are different animals and follow a different set of rules and expectations. Freedom of speech is not a right on a privately-owned web-forum.. My apologies. I thought there was continuity in ethics and expectations. I guess you can say that I don't care what you say since your online and posting documents online, but then say its okay if I'm standing next to you in Britain. You win, bro.
No, I don't care what you say if you're on a forum or if you're standing right next to me. Freedom of speech is not the right to say what you want without criticism or that everyone must listen to you and take you seriously regardless of their own opinions.
I'm not trying to personally attack you, just helping you understand the difference between the real world and a privately owned website.
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RiotSpectre wrote:
Funny how these "incidents" of sexual crimes came up after all of the leaks hit the net. This is just revenge on the man who embarassed the government. And there's no better way to discredit a man than to make him out to be a sexual predator.
No they didn't, stop acting stupid. As a matter of fact, this happened, atleast 3 months ago, when he was on a business trip in Sweden.
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