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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
May 03 2011 21:39 GMT
#281
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Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 21:41:30
May 03 2011 21:40 GMT
#282
Rokusha
Profile Joined January 2011
United States207 Posts
May 03 2011 21:42 GMT
#283
On May 04 2011 06:34 Rotodyne wrote:
I blame asians every time my exam grade is lower than the class average.


Me too and I'm Asian. To bad I'm just lazy and do not put in as much effort as other ethnic Asians
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
May 03 2011 21:46 GMT
#284
I was one of two non-asian people in my entire year at a local Singaporean school. Sure, there are a lot of sheltered, study-hard people, but there are a fair amount of people with more varied hobbies. It wasn't a very different culture at all.

Nor were the ones who tried to study all the time better at school or life.
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
May 03 2011 21:48 GMT
#285
My high school is 60% East Asian with 40% of the total school population being Chinese. Class averages for Math and Sciences are low 80s. English is around high 70s (ESL kids really pull down the average). Almost everyone goes to university; it's almost assumed you're going to university, not even college.

I'm the laziest of the Chinese students; I have zero work ethic, I only do assignments that are graded. Yet being so damn lazy, I still pull a 83 average; I'm usually the average or just above in my classes. I'm going to UofT next year.

So what's your excuse?
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 21:55:56
May 03 2011 21:50 GMT
#286
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

[image loading]

to answer a lot of posts in this thread its a combination of IQ (genetics, environment, etc.) and culture (work ethnic, discipline, honor, etc.). number's dont lie
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
NonConGuy
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
May 03 2011 21:52 GMT
#287
On May 04 2011 06:48 The_LiNk wrote:
I'm the laziest of the Chinese students; I have zero work ethic, I only do assignments that are graded. Yet being so damn lazy, I still pull a 83 average; I'm usually the average or just above in my classes. I'm going to UofT next year.

So what's your excuse?


You sound like me, lazy as hell and study probably 2 hours max per exam and do only assignments that are graded and attend class only when its mandatory/participation needed. My average ranges B+ to A+ range usually. People complain how they study for hours each day just to get a B, but I know how they study, facebook every 5 minutes.
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
May 03 2011 21:54 GMT
#288
On May 04 2011 06:48 The_LiNk wrote:
My high school is 60% East Asian with 40% of the total school population being Chinese. Class averages for Math and Sciences are low 80s. English is around high 70s (ESL kids really pull down the average). Almost everyone goes to university; it's almost assumed you're going to university, not even college.

I'm the laziest of the Chinese students; I have zero work ethic, I only do assignments that are graded. Yet being so damn lazy, I still pull a 83 average; I'm usually the average or just above in my classes. I'm going to UofT next year.

So what's your excuse?



You're in highschool kid. I pulled straight A's skipping classes to go smoke weed at my friends house almost everyday, hardly ever doing any work at all really. High school is a joke you can talk yourself through if you have the skills.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 22:00:36
May 03 2011 21:55 GMT
#289
On May 04 2011 06:50 Strivers wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

[image loading]

to answer a lot of posts in this thread its a combination of IQ and culture..number's don't lie

This study is crap it doesn't account for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_drain
part of the reason that 3rd world countries don't advance is because the unskilled labor is exploited while the skilled labor is exported.

People try to blame race but has shown that again and again when people are educated effectively with the same resources and opportunity that they will be similar intelligence regardless of their ethnic background.
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
The_LiNk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada863 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-03 21:57:10
May 03 2011 21:56 GMT
#290
On May 04 2011 06:54 N3rV[Green] wrote:
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On May 04 2011 06:48 The_LiNk wrote:
My high school is 60% East Asian with 40% of the total school population being Chinese. Class averages for Math and Sciences are low 80s. English is around high 70s (ESL kids really pull down the average). Almost everyone goes to university; it's almost assumed you're going to university, not even college.

I'm the laziest of the Chinese students; I have zero work ethic, I only do assignments that are graded. Yet being so damn lazy, I still pull a 83 average; I'm usually the average or just above in my classes. I'm going to UofT next year.


So what's your excuse?


You're in highschool kid. I pulled straight A's skipping classes to go smoke weed at my friends house almost everyday, hardly ever doing any work at all really. High school is a joke you can talk yourself through if you have the skills.


So there really is no excuse for these people complaining about being unable to go to university or to the good universities because they're (the university) "Asian" now is there?
JKira
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada1002 Posts
May 03 2011 21:57 GMT
#291
I go to Waterloo, and I remember reading this article when it first came out and laughing.

It's all very true.
Strivers
Profile Joined November 2010
United States358 Posts
May 03 2011 21:59 GMT
#292
On May 04 2011 06:55 Nothingtosay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 06:50 Strivers wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

[image loading]

to answer a lot of posts in this thread its a combination of IQ and culture..number's don't lie

This study is crap it doesn't account for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_drain#Africa
part of the reason that 3rd world countries don't advance is because the unskilled labor is exploited while the skilled labor is exported.


brain drain and labor exploitation isn't relevant to IQ
These little dudes really like the blue stuff..
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
May 03 2011 22:03 GMT
#293
This article doesn't recommend any solutions to anything. But then again it doesn't explicitly say that the disproportionate number of Asians and their presumably low levels of socializing are a real problem. In other words, the article's just a poor attempt at creating an issue out of nothing.
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
May 03 2011 22:03 GMT
#294
On May 04 2011 06:59 Strivers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 06:55 Nothingtosay wrote:
On May 04 2011 06:50 Strivers wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

[image loading]

to answer a lot of posts in this thread its a combination of IQ and culture..number's don't lie

This study is crap it doesn't account for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_drain#Africa
part of the reason that 3rd world countries don't advance is because the unskilled labor is exploited while the skilled labor is exported.


brain drain and labor exploitation isn't relevant to IQ

How can you say brain drain isn't relevant to IQ lol? The educated people are all leaving the third world and developing countries because they don't want to martyr their career so that others can prosper in the future when 1st world countries provide them with jobs. If all the educated people leave the IQ will drop.
How can you say labor exploitation isn't? Poor people can't afford to establish schools and educate their young or even themselves like the wealthy can. Poor nations will always have lower IQs.
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
N3rV[Green]
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1935 Posts
May 03 2011 22:04 GMT
#295
Honestly a vast majority of the population (which is mostly white here in the US) is unmotivated, and incapable of simple rational thought. They don't understand much of anything that isn't just spoon fed to them so going to any kind of higher education is bad for them because they have to "work hard" or not get hammered drunk nearly every weekend.

People are just so fucking stupid...and so fucking lazy....

Oh well.

To end, no school is too "Asian". The problem lies in the people that believe learning isn't as important as anything else on the planet.
Never fear the darkness, Bran. The strongest trees are rooted in the dark places of the earth. Darkness will be your cloak, your shield, your mother's milk. Darkness will make you strong.
Vinnesta
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Singapore285 Posts
May 03 2011 22:05 GMT
#296
On May 04 2011 06:46 Dfgj wrote:
I was one of two non-asian people in my entire year at a local Singaporean school. Sure, there are a lot of sheltered, study-hard people, but there are a fair amount of people with more varied hobbies. It wasn't a very different culture at all.

Nor were the ones who tried to study all the time better at school or life.


Agreed. It's not that asians have "no life" and study the whole day. We balance work and play such that they don't get in each others' ways, to live a well rounded life.

Also, if there are 20 other people eyeing your spot in university or class, you'd feel pretty pressured to do well too.
Same difference is not an oxymoron!
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
May 03 2011 22:06 GMT
#297
On May 04 2011 06:50 Strivers wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

[image loading]

to answer a lot of posts in this thread its a combination of IQ (genetics, environment, etc.) and culture (work ethnic, discipline, honor, etc.). number's dont lie


Worst BS i've seen in a while. How was the mean IQ of rural china measured in this study?
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7584 Posts
May 03 2011 22:09 GMT
#298
On May 04 2011 06:59 Strivers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2011 06:55 Nothingtosay wrote:
On May 04 2011 06:50 Strivers wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_Global_Inequality

[image loading]

to answer a lot of posts in this thread its a combination of IQ and culture..number's don't lie

This study is crap it doesn't account for http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_drain#Africa
part of the reason that 3rd world countries don't advance is because the unskilled labor is exploited while the skilled labor is exported.


brain drain and labor exploitation isn't relevant to IQ


Sounds to me like it could? I'm not sure either way but the systematic removal of skilled laborers from a country over time surely could effect the average "IQ" of an area couldn't it?

What would have happened to India if so many of their educated didn't leave but instead stayed?

Like, I said I'm not sure but I can't imagine that there is no possibility that they could relate.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2216 Posts
May 03 2011 22:10 GMT
#299
I think science and engineering students in general regardless of cultural background are more hard working that humanities/social sciences students simply because they need to be in order to get something out of their degree (medical school, graduate school, etc), whereas arts degrees are useless no matter what and the workload is much lighter. There are a disproportionate number of Asian people in engineering and the natural sciences, whereas the arts (English, Philosophy, etc) and social sciences are mostly made up of white people.
Nothingtosay
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States875 Posts
May 03 2011 22:13 GMT
#300
People need to realize that the far east didn't become the world most educated sector (arguable compared to Scandinavia) until the post world war two economic booms and the economic success gained in the latter half of the 20th century.
[QUOTE][B]On October 16 2011 13:00 Anihc wrote:[/B] No, you're the one who's wrong. Nothingtosay got it right.[/QUOTE]:3
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