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On June 27 2004 10:32 eigenSpace wrote: first, Sokrates  second, a little loop hole in your logic: fanatics -> no discussion fanatics -> predjudice "lies of ..." -> predjudice but predjudice /-> fanatics therefore, "lies of ..." /-> no discussion unless predjudice -> fanatics just kidding. 
yeah, i forgot to connect those arguments right, i know,
but going to get another cold beer was more important contributing to another senseless, because not existing, discussion 
and now i am just too lazy (even to go back up two lines in this text and fill in the missing word, although writing this is even more energy-costing), but i will get another beer...
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On June 27 2004 10:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
no really excal, that post crossed the "I'm a fucking idiot for posting this" line.
I see no point in responding to anything you say again, and I will try to never get provoked by anything you post so I can actually keep that promise.
a useful quote to keep in mind.
"Half the world is composed of idiots, the other half of people clever enough to take indecent advantage of them."
--Walter Kerr
Shall we be a little fairer and say that he is not without his contributions? 
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Austin10833 Posts
If that's the best rebuttle of F911 you could Google, you might want to consider abandoning this topic asap.
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bush is a bad president you guys know it i know it everybody in fucking iraq knows it. plz dont dont hate moore for telling you the truth bush is a fucking lazy ass president i hope he gets beheaded by laden
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On June 27 2004 11:12 MarChxLordaerOn wrote:
bush is a bad president you guys know it i know it everybody in fucking iraq knows it. plz dont dont hate moore for telling you the truth bush is a fucking lazy ass president i hope he gets beheaded by laden
I hope you get shot by the secret service
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On June 27 2004 02:30 XG3 wrote:
3. Flying Bin Laden's family out. Moore shows us the logs of all the saudis flown out...on 9/13 which is two days after 9/11.
Okay, I have not seen the movie so perhaps someone can explain to me why this is such a big deal. I have read the family was questioned first (http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/ I think). So I'm guessing Moore is making the point that Bush's family ties to the Saudis are what makes him fly them out, but isn't that the moral thing to do anyway? I mean, if they are guilty somehow wouldn't it be better that they are out of the country to avoid spying/whatever? And if they aren't guilty isn't it better that they are flown out for their own protection against people retaliating?
Someone explain please!
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Micheal Moore just uses one sided arguments. So like others are saying it should not be called a documentary because it tricks many uninformed to think that it is accurate. However, if you can get past that he has some valid points, biased albeit. I saw Bowling for Col. and I thought that he was so fake. He just tries to be the great 'conterversial' person so he is more reconized. And thus make money for himself, and it works.
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Michael Moore is full of shit, and for every bit of excrement he feeds to others he produces two more!
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Don't just blatanty bash him. Post why hes an idiot. Insulting him just encourgaes the Moore followers
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i think whoever wrote that first post is more full of shit than michael moore. it must be nice to generalize about why his sources are dismissable without refuting any of the real points of the film or pointing out many of the (i'm sure) misleading selection/omissions. even then, to do that is only to try to distract from what michael moore is actually trying to convince people of. why can't you discuss why he is actually wrong instead of pointing out that he used clips, sources, and statistics in a misleading way? it's one thing to say "liberal this and liberal that" and dismiss everyone who isnt a part of your vast delusional fox news conspiracy. come to think of it, i'm making a reasonable point right now, which is pointless because we all know reasonable arguments are liberal and cannot be trusted :/
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Austin10833 Posts
Michael Moore is on 60 Minutes right now.
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i wish i could find my remote, i gotta tune in for my regular LIBERAL CONSPIRACY TRAINING
MICHAEL MOORE IS SUCH A FAKE HE IS RICH OFF HIS MOVIES TELLING HIS LIES HE DOESNT BELIEVE IN! I BET HE VOTES FOR BUSH HE IS JUST ANOTHER RICH GUY LYING TO MAKE MONEY WHAT AN ASS
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On June 27 2004 10:25 Liquid`Drone wrote:
no really excal, that post crossed the "I'm a fucking idiot for posting this" line.
I see no point in responding to anything you say again, and I will try to never get provoked by anything you post so I can actually keep that promise.
So what you're saying is, by that one statement, that discredits the entire argument. Heh. More like you couldn't think of any instance where she was wrong so you just decided to ignore her points on an unrelated comment. Typical.
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On June 27 2004 10:38 TeCh)PsylO wrote: Show nested quote +own opinion:
the only thing wanted by the thread-creator is provocation and implementation of his own propaganda, nothing else. You are a smart cookie  It has been a fairly good amount of time now since we have been having this little "debates" . Excal has always been a fanatic, but over time he has pushed himself farther and farther into his hostile conservative corner. Excal has made no consessions and really doesn't seemed to have gained any insight into the issues we have discussed. I think it is clear that Excal's motives are not to discuss(you don't tell people you are discussing with they should be locked up for sedition) .
I know you don't believe in the Sedition Act and consider all dissent to be legitimate. However what Michael Moore is doing, marketing to the Syrians and Lebanese and not refusing help from Hezbollah, is clearly sedition since the movie is propaganda which empowers our enemies by sympathizing with them and attacking the administration all at the same time. Maybe you forget or ignore that this is a time of war and so the Sedition Act is in effect. I actually am here to discuss but all I'm ever met with is flames and non sequiturs, and never any real debate because people just flame or ignore what they don't want to hear. That's what's really sad.
I'd like to think that you are the only one worth debating Psylo, but it seems from this latest post that you are joining the "ignore me" crowd since you're not bringing any counterarguments to the table. Pointing out my perceived character flaws doesn't make the statements in the initial post untrue.
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no excal what hes saying is that hes completely given up on you, that your pattern of represented thought has convinced him that you are a COMPLETE WASTE TO TRY TO COMMUNICATE ANYTHING TO WHATSOEVER.
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Micheal Moore's propaganda?
The US Government has the worlds largest HR (Human Relations) budget.
Micheal Moore makes documentaries
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Russian Federation4447 Posts
I kinda given up too, ever since that retarded media rant post, saying totally absurd things like I am racist. Anybody who believes I was racist for saying what I did is totally hopeless. That is one of the many reasons why most of us have given up.
I think my mentality represents many people right now. Most of us have lost the energy to keep trying.
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i'm sure he'll interpret it as victory.. :/ we fail to answer his.. ever changing the subject accusations of fitting into his.. vERY broad "liberal" stereotypes. world out to get you huh?
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