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pRo9aMeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
595 Posts
September 08 2010 07:21 GMT
#181
very sad that good people die directly and solely because of people doing stupid things

RIP
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domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
September 08 2010 07:24 GMT
#182
I think it'll be better not to argue the little details, regardless of righteousness.

Please allow people to mourn for the tragic death of an innocent and respected person.

I hope the best for his surviving family.
bobhund
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden364 Posts
September 08 2010 07:53 GMT
#183
That edit really brought a tear to my eye.
Editor in chief at Rakaka.se
Half
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2554 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 08:11:24
September 08 2010 08:10 GMT
#184
idunno to the people who say he didn't intend to sacrifice himself, stop projecting. Just because you can't imagine yourself, when faced with an unprecedented danger, to immediately think about the person next to yourself over yourself, doesn't mean that that is representative of humanity.



And if that came off as really asshaty, I apologize, I'm not sure how I'd respond either, none of us do until it happens.
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DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 08:44:51
September 08 2010 08:38 GMT
#185
It's ironic, my friend was telling me how he was DLing Company of Heroes Online like 2 minutes after i read this post. I wonder if he worked on that game too.

Edit: As for the whole self sacrifice thing, I'm pretty sure it was just a reaction that anyone else would have (no one is going to not try to swerve away from an oncoming car) but from what people say of the guy I'm sure he would have sacrificed himself if he had the choice.

Radiohead[YG]
Profile Joined September 2006
Australia52 Posts
September 08 2010 08:48 GMT
#186
The first thing Erin Wood wants her baby to know is that Dad, Brian, died to save their lives.

“. . . In his final act he did the only thing that would save us,” said Wood, 31.

With an out-of-control Chevy Blazer bearing down on him, the 33-year old North Vancouver man braked and swerved his Subaru wagon so that he would take the force of the head-on collision, saving his wife of five years, pregnant with their first baby..


This just burnt a hole in my heart. Massive respect for Mr. Wood, and condolences for his survivers.
A pig in a cage on antibiotics
BillyHere
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia13 Posts
September 08 2010 12:28 GMT
#187
This shit makes me rage, as a passenger you should ALWAYS open your mouth when someone is being a dickhead on the road, tell the driver to smarten the fuck up or slow the fuck down it's not 'cool' but who gives a shit lives are at stake and the other passengers are probably thinking the same thing
Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them so much
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32084 Posts
September 08 2010 13:28 GMT
#188
On September 08 2010 14:51 No_Roo wrote:
Yeah...
I don't believe for a moment his intention when swerving was to sacrifice himself to save his family, I'm pretty sure he was attempting to avoid the collision outright as any intelligent person would try to do. Think about it, a car veers into your lane, your swerving options are either swerve away from it, (which would expose the drivers side) or swerve directly into it and almost certainly kill every one in the car.

I understand that people's intention are good however the fact is a man died pointlessly. That IS the tragedy here, and the way people try to rationalize death by branding the victim hyperbolically as a hero, despite what they might think, is incredibly disrespectful to the victim and the manner in which he died.

EDIT: by the way for every one's benefit, do not brake and swerve at the same time as the article seems to suggest he did.


Not only is it incredibly tasteless to even give a shit why he did that, your logic is completely retarded and doesn't even support your stupid ass conclusion

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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 14:27:55
September 08 2010 13:53 GMT
#189
On September 08 2010 22:28 Hawk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 14:51 No_Roo wrote:
Yeah...
I don't believe for a moment his intention when swerving was to sacrifice himself to save his family, I'm pretty sure he was attempting to avoid the collision outright as any intelligent person would try to do. Think about it, a car veers into your lane, your swerving options are either swerve away from it, (which would expose the drivers side) or swerve directly into it and almost certainly kill every one in the car.

I understand that people's intention are good however the fact is a man died pointlessly. That IS the tragedy here, and the way people try to rationalize death by branding the victim hyperbolically as a hero, despite what they might think, is incredibly disrespectful to the victim and the manner in which he died.

EDIT: by the way for every one's benefit, do not brake and swerve at the same time as the article seems to suggest he did.


Not only is it incredibly tasteless to even give a shit why he did that, your logic is completely retarded and doesn't even support your stupid ass conclusion

i understand that you are upset with his logic, but please keep it civil out of respect for their family.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 14:29:07
September 08 2010 14:27 GMT
#190
On September 08 2010 22:53 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 22:28 Hawk wrote:
On September 08 2010 14:51 No_Roo wrote:
Yeah...
I don't believe for a moment his intention when swerving was to sacrifice himself to save his family, I'm pretty sure he was attempting to avoid the collision outright as any intelligent person would try to do. Think about it, a car veers into your lane, your swerving options are either swerve away from it, (which would expose the drivers side) or swerve directly into it and almost certainly kill every one in the car.

I understand that people's intention are good however the fact is a man died pointlessly. That IS the tragedy here, and the way people try to rationalize death by branding the victim hyperbolically as a hero, despite what they might think, is incredibly disrespectful to the victim and the manner in which he died.

EDIT: by the way for every one's benefit, do not brake and swerve at the same time as the article seems to suggest he did.


Not only is it incredibly tasteless to even give a shit why he did that, your logic is completely retarded and doesn't even support your stupid ass conclusion

i agree with it being tasteless but you shouldn't berate someone for stating an opinion, and to be honest his logic makes perfect sense. Given the premise of the situation it wouldn't be far off to say the wife's statement may be emotionally compromised.

i really hope im not coming off as condescending or anything else as i feel really deeply sorry for his family and couldn't even begin to imagine their pain, but hawk, since you seem like the guy who likes it straight,
What exactly are you trying to accomplish with your post, seriously?
Showing everyone what a shitty poster you are?
You're replying to something that happened to bother you, without even caring at all about the OP or this family. I would like to think this thread on TL could be something respectable mora could link to their family, but people like you shit up this thread for no apparent reason other than your selfishness to post whatever u feel like. It sickens me.


I agree with all of this. Well said.

My thoughts go out to his family and friends. A tragic accident.

On September 07 2010 16:04 poasiodss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 15:42 GTR wrote:
legal system in the states disgusts me. something like this in australia would probably net more than twice the amount given in america.


It really depends on the state and the judge overseeing the trial.

Though vehicular manslaughter in Washington state can land you a life sentence and/or $50,000 fine, since Washington doesn't seem to have minimum sentences, they could really expect anything.

Personally, I'd rather see the driver and the passenger make restitution rather than rot in jail for being dumb and young.

Me too. This is exactly my reaction to a tragedy like this, especially when reading people's indignation and desire to see them punished severely. I'd rather see them attempt restitution to those left behind (including the family's of the 3 other people killed) than waste away uselessly in jail.
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 08 2010 14:29 GMT
#191
oh this always happens, i edit something out then i get quoted.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
September 08 2010 14:33 GMT
#192
On September 08 2010 23:29 HeavOnEarth wrote:
oh this always happens, i edit something out then i get quoted.

Haha! I Pm'ed you. Give me the word and your quote is gone
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HeavOnEarth
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States7087 Posts
September 08 2010 14:35 GMT
#193
oh it's fine i think my edit speaks for itself. The whole point of my post was to simply try to convince people that being derogatory in this thread is really quite unnecessary but i think its better if i just ask politely.
"come korea next time... FXO house... 10 korean, 10 korean"
Sanguinarius
Profile Joined January 2010
United States3427 Posts
September 08 2010 14:39 GMT
#194
Thats horrible, and so stupid.
Your strength is just an accident arising from the weakness of others -Heart of Darkness
SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 16:40:15
September 08 2010 16:32 GMT
#195
On September 07 2010 05:55 bmml wrote:
Heard about this this morning, its a great shame as CoH was/is great. Shame idiots will always be idiots... taking off a jacket while driving, unforgivable.


Seriously. They couldn't take thirty seconds and pull the fuck over? I either drive hot, remove the coat at a light, or pull over. Ridiculous.

On September 08 2010 23:27 Subversive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2010 22:53 HeavOnEarth wrote:
On September 08 2010 22:28 Hawk wrote:
On September 08 2010 14:51 No_Roo wrote:
Yeah...
I don't believe for a moment his intention when swerving was to sacrifice himself to save his family, I'm pretty sure he was attempting to avoid the collision outright as any intelligent person would try to do. Think about it, a car veers into your lane, your swerving options are either swerve away from it, (which would expose the drivers side) or swerve directly into it and almost certainly kill every one in the car.

I understand that people's intention are good however the fact is a man died pointlessly. That IS the tragedy here, and the way people try to rationalize death by branding the victim hyperbolically as a hero, despite what they might think, is incredibly disrespectful to the victim and the manner in which he died.

EDIT: by the way for every one's benefit, do not brake and swerve at the same time as the article seems to suggest he did.


Not only is it incredibly tasteless to even give a shit why he did that, your logic is completely retarded and doesn't even support your stupid ass conclusion

i agree with it being tasteless but you shouldn't berate someone for stating an opinion, and to be honest his logic makes perfect sense. Given the premise of the situation it wouldn't be far off to say the wife's statement may be emotionally compromised.

i really hope im not coming off as condescending or anything else as i feel really deeply sorry for his family and couldn't even begin to imagine their pain, but hawk, since you seem like the guy who likes it straight,
What exactly are you trying to accomplish with your post, seriously?
Showing everyone what a shitty poster you are?
You're replying to something that happened to bother you, without even caring at all about the OP or this family. I would like to think this thread on TL could be something respectable mora could link to their family, but people like you shit up this thread for no apparent reason other than your selfishness to post whatever u feel like. It sickens me.


I agree with all of this. Well said.

My thoughts go out to his family and friends. A tragic accident.

Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 16:04 poasiodss wrote:
On September 07 2010 15:42 GTR wrote:
legal system in the states disgusts me. something like this in australia would probably net more than twice the amount given in america.


It really depends on the state and the judge overseeing the trial.

Though vehicular manslaughter in Washington state can land you a life sentence and/or $50,000 fine, since Washington doesn't seem to have minimum sentences, they could really expect anything.

Personally, I'd rather see the driver and the passenger make restitution rather than rot in jail for being dumb and young.

Me too. This is exactly my reaction to a tragedy like this, especially when reading people's indignation and desire to see them punished severely. I'd rather see them attempt restitution to those left behind (including the family's of the 3 other people killed) than waste away uselessly in jail.


On one hand, I completely agree. On the other, no amount of restitution will ever bring those people back. They will never be able to make it up to the victim's unborn child. How could they possibly do so? Financially they may be able to cover it (unlikely), but they'd never be able to replace the hole that the child now has in their lives because they decided to drive like a couple of fucktards and killer his/her father. But, really, jail would serve NO purpose at all... blah, idk, all I know is that it's a really awful situation. It isn't often that something hits me emotionally, but this kind of stuff does.

Not that they'll ever read this, but RIP to Brian Wood and GL to his family, and the families that were affected.
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
September 08 2010 18:01 GMT
#196
This is a god damn shame. I hope those girls are given the maximum sentence on top of feeling the guilt of killing someone for the rest of their lives.
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
No_Roo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States905 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-08 20:06:53
September 08 2010 20:03 GMT
#197
Maybe there was some confusion with my post, it was not meant to be offensive in any way, just a commentary on what I felt was more respectful to the victim.

There are two suggested trains of thought.

(Objective thought)
Thought: "I want to avoid this accident"
Intended result: prevent any one from dying or being hurt
Course of Action: Turn steering wheel to the right and swerve

vs.
(Heroic thought)
Thought "I am going to position my car in a way to shield the impact to the rest of my family while increasing risk to myself"
Intended result: Prevent other people in the car from dying or being hurt
Course of Action: Turn steering wheel to the right and swerve

Without conceding that this limited context is 100% valid to the case at hand (we weren't there, we don't know) and only looking at those two options, The first one I am confident would be found to be the better choice.

The purpose of my post was that suggesting he followed the heroic thought process might actually be an insult. Heroics can be great, but Objectivity in a crisis is in my opinion far more worthy of respect.
(US) NoRoo.fighting
Garaman
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States556 Posts
September 08 2010 20:17 GMT
#198
what a stupid fucking bitch
who the fuck changes their sweater while driving?
the dumb bitch should never be allowed to drive again, EVER
Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-09 04:47:34
September 09 2010 04:38 GMT
#199
On September 08 2010 15:15 GGitsJack wrote:
I guess the respawn timer ran out. =(

Edit: I feel sad for the man himself but maybe its because i haven't played CoH before I'm not all up in tears. (The last part was pretty cheezy though and I's sure that wasn't of his intentions, unless his super smart game brain fast reaction time trigger made him calculate those risks in his head in those few moments.)


now this deserves a temp ban if i've ever seen one.

I still find it disgusting that ppl have no sympothy unless it directly affects them... "just another random person dead". He left behind a wife and a child. These are real people. Grow up.

EDIT: I started reading farther down about how jail time would not serve a purpose. While I agree, it doesn't serve a purpose but it is still necessary. You don't get a "your going to have to live with this forever" speech and get to go on your way. This person deserves jail time and then A SHIT TON of community service.
Mora
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada5235 Posts
September 09 2010 07:43 GMT
#200
sincere thanks to everyone who gave their condolences.

everything was a lot more personal than i expected it to be. Tuesday was particularly tough. Seeing some notes that i took from a Friday meeting with him; having our weekly-update Outlook meeting request; seeing a photo from his wedding day when i walked by his desk...

Grief is such a unique emotion. It feels selfish to feel any sort of loss when you think of the people who he was close to: friends, family, his wife, child. But the truth is is that he was an important part of my every-day. He was part of what made my job, my job. That i've thought "i can't wait to show you who i am in 10 years, so that i am deserving of all the faith you've always had in me".

He's not going to be there.

How moot it is to debate merits of the last moments of his life; whether reasoning was objective or heroic to save the lives of his family. Hold him in awe not because of those few moments, but because of who he chose to be in his every day of being who he was. That he was genuinely compassionate and caring about everything and everyone in his life.

I said before in this thread, and it's especially true in reflection: the world was a better place for his having been here. The world has been robbed of such a person. It's both unnecessary and sad.

So entirely tragic.
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