• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:07
CEST 03:07
KST 10:07
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China1Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL63Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?13FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event22Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16
StarCraft 2
General
Program: SC2 / XSplit / OBS Scene Switcher The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form? PiG Sty Festival #5: Playoffs Preview + Groups Recap
Tourneys
RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays Korean Starcraft League Week 77
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 481 Fear and Lava Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma
Brood War
General
Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL SC uni coach streams logging into betting site Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion Practice Partners (Official)
Tourneys
[BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China CSL Xiamen International Invitational The Casual Games of the Week Thread [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Summer Games Done Quick 2025! Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 635 users

The Big Programming Thread - Page 155

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 153 154 155 156 157 1031 Next
Thread Rules
1. This is not a "do my homework for me" thread. If you have specific questions, ask, but don't post an assignment or homework problem and expect an exact solution.
2. No recruiting for your cockamamie projects (you won't replace facebook with 3 dudes you found on the internet and $20)
3. If you can't articulate why a language is bad, don't start slinging shit about it. Just remember that nothing is worse than making CSS IE6 compatible.
4. Use [code] tags to format code blocks.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 08 2012 15:10 GMT
#3081
On August 08 2012 21:17 tofucake wrote:
w2schools is awful
don't use it


What would you recommend for learning Javascript and jQuery? I already have a basic understanding of HTML and CSS - enough to make basic homepages from scratch.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Gnosis
Profile Joined December 2008
Scotland912 Posts
August 08 2012 15:13 GMT
#3082
On August 09 2012 00:10 EscPlan9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:17 tofucake wrote:
w2schools is awful
don't use it


What would you recommend for learning Javascript and jQuery? I already have a basic understanding of HTML and CSS - enough to make basic homepages from scratch.


Code year is a decent enough introduction: http://codeyear.com/

Of course, one can always read through the tomes that are O'Reilly books / manuals.
"Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto." – Peter Kreeft
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19031 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 15:18:16
August 08 2012 15:18 GMT
#3083
On August 09 2012 00:10 EscPlan9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:17 tofucake wrote:
w2schools is awful
don't use it


What would you recommend for learning Javascript and jQuery? I already have a basic understanding of HTML and CSS - enough to make basic homepages from scratch.

jQuery specifically, use jquery.com
JavaScript, very basically, http://www.cs.brown.edu/courses/bridge/1998/res/javascript/javascript-tutorial.html

StackOverflow is awesome for questions
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 16:26:05
August 08 2012 16:24 GMT
#3084
On August 08 2012 13:35 weishime wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 11:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Anybody know anything about parallax scrolling and setting heights to certain "pages"?


If you mean web, yeah. There are a few libraries for that. A nice one is Stellar.js.


Yea, I know about those, but I wrote out a custom parallax scrolling script, only thing is, now I'm stuck. I need some help on a height issue, or more like a scrolling issue. Since parallax scrolling is all in one page with multiple "pages" (Divs), I'm trying to figure out how to set a height to one of the divs. I tried doing an overflow-y: scroll; with height at 100% (Only way it would scroll, tried sitting a height like 500px, but that doesn't work) and it scrolls, but it doesn't scroll the whole way because my container is set to a different height.

Also a cool place to learn is CodeAcademy. Very interactive learning for those starting.
Life?
nakam
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden245 Posts
August 08 2012 16:41 GMT
#3085
On August 09 2012 00:18 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 00:10 EscPlan9 wrote:
On August 08 2012 21:17 tofucake wrote:
w2schools is awful
don't use it


What would you recommend for learning Javascript and jQuery? I already have a basic understanding of HTML and CSS - enough to make basic homepages from scratch.

jQuery specifically, use jquery.com
JavaScript, very basically, http://www.cs.brown.edu/courses/bridge/1998/res/javascript/javascript-tutorial.html

StackOverflow is awesome for questions

Start with JavaScript and then just read the jQuery documentation. jQuery is not that hard if you know some JS and their documentation is among the best.
TL Local Timezone Script - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=277156
supereddie
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands151 Posts
August 08 2012 17:08 GMT
#3086
On August 06 2012 17:01 Craton wrote:
Another question using the same database from before.

In one of my views I'd like to have a column denoting "streaks," where a streak is defined consecutive wins or losses. What I'd like to do is basically take my list if games, sort it by MHID descending, and then have some kind of SQL that will say there have been X many of this result in a row.

MHID are entered in such a way that a higher number denotes a more recent game, but may not be consecutive.

My thought was that I could achieve this by some kind of CONNECT BY logic, but I can't figure it out (I seemingly keep getting infinite loops with the logic I've tried).

I also tried LEAD and LAG but couldn't quite get there.

End result would look something like this:

MHID -- RESULT -- STREAK
9 -- LOSS -- 1
8 -- WIN -- 3
6 -- WIN -- 2
1 -- WIN -- 1

I am unfamiliar with Oracle SQL, but from what I've read you may be able to do it with the MODEL-clause
"Do not try to make difficult things possible, but make simple things simple." - David Platt on Software Design
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 08 2012 19:47 GMT
#3087
On August 09 2012 00:13 Gnosis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 00:10 EscPlan9 wrote:
On August 08 2012 21:17 tofucake wrote:
w2schools is awful
don't use it


What would you recommend for learning Javascript and jQuery? I already have a basic understanding of HTML and CSS - enough to make basic homepages from scratch.


Code year is a decent enough introduction: http://codeyear.com/

Of course, one can always read through the tomes that are O'Reilly books / manuals.


Codeyear looks really good for Javascript (and more)! Thanks! I really like how they have the lessons organized to build incrementally on past ones.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
August 08 2012 20:00 GMT
#3088
What programming languages are best to start with? I read abit about HTML and CSS but that's what I know abit of so far. Though I bet you could learn HTML within an hour, atleast what's on w3schools.
Naniwa <3
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
August 08 2012 20:10 GMT
#3089
On August 09 2012 05:00 Olsson wrote:
What programming languages are best to start with? I read abit about HTML and CSS but that's what I know abit of so far. Though I bet you could learn HTML within an hour, atleast what's on w3schools.


yeah, but that is not programming. C/C++ is generally a nice startingpoint. C#/Java if you like to see results a bit faster. I am no expert but these are quite common. (all personal oppinion, some people treat programming languages like religion)
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
EscPlan9
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2777 Posts
August 08 2012 20:30 GMT
#3090
On August 09 2012 05:00 Olsson wrote:
What programming languages are best to start with? I read abit about HTML and CSS but that's what I know abit of so far. Though I bet you could learn HTML within an hour, atleast what's on w3schools.


It depends what you want to get out of it. For simplicity and just getting the hang of the fundamentals of programming such as variables, scope, controls and loops, maybe start with C# or Python. I first learned with Java and that was okay. If you're okay with a much steeper learning curve, start with C then move to other languages. Check some of the quality posts mentioned in the OP that describes this recommendation - one firmly recommended starting with C since you'll then have no trouble moving onto other languages afterwards.
Undefeated TL Tecmo Super Bowl League Champion
Deleted User 101379
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
4849 Posts
August 08 2012 20:40 GMT
#3091
On August 09 2012 05:00 Olsson wrote:
What programming languages are best to start with? I read abit about HTML and CSS but that's what I know abit of so far. Though I bet you could learn HTML within an hour, atleast what's on w3schools.


HTML & CSS are a lot more complex than people give it credit for. I have a colleague that writes websites for our company since 15 years and he still doesn't understand it.


As for starting languages, it really depends on what you want to do.

Websites: PHP or Server Side Javascript (node.js). PHP is one hell of a messy language but it's the current standard and in the industry there isn't really a widespread alternative.
Applications: C# or Java (i prefer C#)
Games: Huge topic and any language will work, though i would just recommend starting with some 2D C# Framework and go from there.

I wouldn't recommend starting with C/C++ since while the memory management and such are important to learn at some point, at the beginning they just distract from the goal of having fun while learning.
Leafty
Profile Joined July 2012
France84 Posts
August 08 2012 21:05 GMT
#3092
On August 09 2012 05:40 Morfildur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2012 05:00 Olsson wrote:
What programming languages are best to start with? I read abit about HTML and CSS but that's what I know abit of so far. Though I bet you could learn HTML within an hour, atleast what's on w3schools.


HTML & CSS are a lot more complex than people give it credit for. I have a colleague that writes websites for our company since 15 years and he still doesn't understand it.


As for starting languages, it really depends on what you want to do.

Websites: PHP or Server Side Javascript (node.js). PHP is one hell of a messy language but it's the current standard and in the industry there isn't really a widespread alternative.
Applications: C# or Java (i prefer C#)
Games: Huge topic and any language will work, though i would just recommend starting with some 2D C# Framework and go from there.

I wouldn't recommend starting with C/C++ since while the memory management and such are important to learn at some point, at the beginning they just distract from the goal of having fun while learning.


I wouldn't recommend starting with node.js, the design of I/O operations requires you to have some experience with I/O in other languages, synchronicity and asynchronicity, threading (as a more intuitive way of doing multiple things at the same time), etc. Sure programming with node.js is really fun but I don't think you can do it properly without some programming background.
thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
August 08 2012 22:34 GMT
#3093
Websites: PHP or Server Side Javascript (node.js). PHP is one hell of a messy language but it's the current standard and in the industry there isn't really a widespread alternative.


Wait, what? Python and Ruby are both pretty widespread in the web dev industry, along with Java in more enterprisey companies.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19031 Posts
August 08 2012 22:35 GMT
#3094
mmhhhmmm

but both combined aren't anywhere near as pervasive as PHP
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
August 08 2012 23:38 GMT
#3095
On August 09 2012 07:35 tofucake wrote:
mmhhhmmm

but both combined aren't anywhere near as pervasive as PHP


Non PHP positions are pervasive enough that adoption rate of PHP Is not a significant factor, IMO.

In the web dev segment I'm most familiar with (startups, bay area tech companies, and beltway federal contracting), PHP isn't really a requirement or anywhere near standard.

Plus, as a language, PHP is a pretty lackluster learning tool. Python or Ruby makes learning PHP easier. I can't say the same the other way around.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19031 Posts
August 09 2012 00:23 GMT
#3096
Not saying PHP is easy to learn (it's not), just that it's
1. Very pervasive
2. Very forgiving to beginners
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
CecilSunkure
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2829 Posts
August 09 2012 00:31 GMT
#3097
On August 09 2012 05:00 Olsson wrote:
What programming languages are best to start with? I read abit about HTML and CSS but that's what I know abit of so far. Though I bet you could learn HTML within an hour, atleast what's on w3schools.

What do you want to do. Web programming?
thedz
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States217 Posts
August 09 2012 02:49 GMT
#3098
On August 09 2012 09:23 tofucake wrote:
Not saying PHP is easy to learn (it's not), just that it's
1. Very pervasive
2. Very forgiving to beginners


I agree that its pervasive and forgiving, but for a first language, I think it tends to set some very bad habits. Not because of the language itself (its possible to write good, easily maintainable PHP code), but because most example of PHP you see in the wild are pretty horrible. Its similar to why I don't recommend Perl as a first language if someone has a choice. Obviously, if you need to learn PHP right this second, then you need to learn it and it doesn't matter.

But if there's a chance to choose which language to learn first, I gravitate towards Python (and Ruby in a slightly lesser degree). Python as a language is relatively simple to understand, with a minimalistic syntax and a culture where idiomatic Python eschews complicated code. It has most of the concepts that one will need to understand other languages, and is not completely divorced from web development (which I think the original poster was leaning towards with the mention of HTML and CSS) like other good first languages.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
August 09 2012 04:36 GMT
#3099
HTML/CSS is pretty crazy. It's probably easy to learn, but to actually understand it, it's really difficult, I've been doing Web Development for over eight years already and I still mess up on my HTML/CSS if I decide to do complicated things such as my parallax scrolling T_T. I still haven't figured out a answer to my problem. :\
Life?
weishime
Profile Joined August 2011
65 Posts
August 09 2012 08:21 GMT
#3100
On August 09 2012 01:24 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 13:35 weishime wrote:
On August 08 2012 11:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Anybody know anything about parallax scrolling and setting heights to certain "pages"?


If you mean web, yeah. There are a few libraries for that. A nice one is Stellar.js.


Yea, I know about those, but I wrote out a custom parallax scrolling script, only thing is, now I'm stuck. I need some help on a height issue, or more like a scrolling issue. Since parallax scrolling is all in one page with multiple "pages" (Divs), I'm trying to figure out how to set a height to one of the divs. I tried doing an overflow-y: scroll; with height at 100% (Only way it would scroll, tried sitting a height like 500px, but that doesn't work) and it scrolls, but it doesn't scroll the whole way because my container is set to a different height.

Also a cool place to learn is CodeAcademy. Very interactive learning for those starting.


Don't really understand the problem you're descibing.

Give this a look, I know it features a library you don't want to use but it is a good example to compare against and see how you are doing things differently.

http://webdesign.tutsplus.com/tutorials/complete-websites/create-a-parallax-scrolling-website-using-stellar-js/
Prev 1 153 154 155 156 157 1031 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9h 53m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Livibee 237
Nina 214
RuFF_SC2 96
ProTech74
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 992
Icarus 5
Dota 2
monkeys_forever667
Counter-Strike
tarik_tv7163
Fnx 1821
Stewie2K1147
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King133
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor195
Other Games
summit1g10102
fl0m778
ViBE246
Maynarde184
JuggernautJason23
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick46739
BasetradeTV56
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta35
• Berry_CruncH32
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• Ler56
League of Legends
• masondota2795
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
9h 53m
Replay Cast
22h 53m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 8h
WardiTV European League
1d 14h
MaNa vs sebesdes
Mixu vs Fjant
ByuN vs HeRoMaRinE
ShoWTimE vs goblin
Gerald vs Babymarine
Krystianer vs YoungYakov
PiGosaur Monday
1d 22h
The PondCast
2 days
WardiTV European League
2 days
Jumy vs NightPhoenix
Percival vs Nicoract
ArT vs HiGhDrA
MaxPax vs Harstem
Scarlett vs Shameless
SKillous vs uThermal
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
RSL Revival
3 days
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs Reynor
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Classic vs Cure
FEL
4 days
RSL Revival
5 days
FEL
5 days
FEL
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
FEL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 20
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
CSL Xiamen Invitational
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.