On April 23 2004 08:26 we want peace wrote: You will never understand the feeling of Asians to Japan. And I don't need you to. Beacause you are not Asians, and you have a different way of thinking. But remember, you canot prevent us from asking for apology from Japan for what they have done. It's our right to do so. And we will never give up that easily because of you r objection!
I remember when I was in brazil in korean town. There was a japanese guy going with his car with japanese music turn on. A korean dude(kinda ganster) just slammed his car to that japanese and almost killed him -_-;;
Hey, i hardly notice any japanese id at TL.net, or any other starcraft community. OMG, japanese don't play sc! hideous crime! Patch 1.11 should remove those badass Yamoto bc from Terran arsenal. Actually do they play any made-out-of-japan games these days?
It's your right! But if you ask some one in a city of China, what's the opinion of Japan they have. I'm sure most of them will show a negative attitude!
On April 23 2004 08:27 AgonyRush wrote: I really hope to see opinions of other asian people. Because this two just scare me.
On April 23 2004 08:26 we want peace wrote: You will never understand the feeling of Asians to Japan. And I don't need you to. Beacause you are not Asians, and you have a different way of thinking. But remember, you canot prevent us from asking for apology from Japan for what they have done. It's our right to do so. And we will never give up that easily because of you r objection!
That's right but the sad fact is most young kids in china today still buy into Japanese pop culture. coz we dont have a thriving pop culture of our own.
On April 23 2004 08:30 we want peace wrote: It's your right! But if you ask some one in a city of China, what's the opinion of Japan they have. I'm sure most of them will show a negative attitude!
On April 23 2004 08:35 longer_23 wrote: That's right but the sad fact is most young kids in china today still buy into Japanese pop culture. coz we dont have a thriving pop culture of our own.
On April 23 2004 08:30 we want peace wrote: It's your right! But if you ask some one in a city of China, what's the opinion of Japan they have. I'm sure most of them will show a negative attitude!
On April 23 2004 08:27 AgonyRush wrote: I really hope to see opinions of other asian people. Because this two just scare me.
Oh i So do hope that all of you will follow their example and be more tolerant. So one day hopefully you all will be one big happy asian family!^^
As I've said before, send the hookers from Japan to China along with some free Nintendo's and PlayStation 2's. That should make things Peanut Butter smooth.
Normally i dont agree with much of anything AgonyRush says, but hes got a point that hating the Japanese just isnt a groovy thing. Generational grudges are evil things. My grandma hates the Japanese and makes racial slurs all the time. It makes me cringe and i try to tell her, that its just not the same anymore. Its not right to be all hatey due to a cultures history.
Its ok for a Black person to dislike what happaned in America's past, but if that same person got mad at me or tried to blame me for it. I would seriously hope they knew how mental they were. I dont at all agree with racism, and any attempt at blaming me would be futile.
Point being... it would be a safe bet that alot of Japanese people would not agree with their atrocious history. If the government refuses to apologize (which i dont know the case at all), dont let it reflect what all of the Japanese people feel. Much like i dont agree with much of anything my government has done recently, but people insist i am to blame for it. I know several cool cats from Japan, and i would hate to see them bare the brunt of racism or violence because someone just has it in for their culture.
It's all in the same boat... African-American's are afraid of the police, and the rest of Asia still showing contempt due to the crimes committed in WW2 by Japan.
how is that the same boat? racial profiling verse begrudged china and korea? Last i knew, Japan didnt patrol those areas. =P
Btw i dislike the cop that truly hates black people and writes off a ticket just because they are black. Although i would agree that if you are a cop in LA, pulling over a suspicious Black guy may yield a more meaningful bust. Its a sad truth, and an even less of a fine line than hating a culture all together.
agony im sorry but you are really really stupid if you dont see what they're trying to say
you might not RELATE to it but i know you see the logic in it and are just trying to drag it out
i clearly see what they're saying and yes i would be fucking pissed if that shit happened to me in that situation (ie living in korea when it happened)
you say it happened 50 years ago but where do you draw the fucking line? 50 years is NOTHING. do you realize that there are a vast number of veterans still alive? would 30 years be unjust? how about 20? 10?
yeah........IF AN ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY REFUSES TO APOLOGIZE for ATROCITIES which were directly commited by their grandparents or parents, i think thats a pretty valid reason to be pissed the fuck off.
and its not about tolerance because chinese and koreans obviously have it..if they didnt their government wouldnt have any diplomatic relations with japan (i dunno if they do or dont actually) and they could just as easily start another war..but they dont. its not about that..its about the PACIFIST stance of a country which raped and pillaged several other countries unjustly. all they want is a simple appology, and all it takes is one. you say forgive and forget, but if after every war the offending country totally neglected their responsibility their would be no justice in this world
Ok, big post. Like I said before, and as Agony has been continuing, your hatred for the Japanese is, most likely, based on false findings and information.
It's much like racial bigotry. Those educated in a society see past these kinds of things and accept people for who they are, not where they come from or what they look like. When you kids grow up, you'll figure this out. Although...some kids never grow up.
I don't care if you say: "You will never understand the Korean issues" because, guess what, that's bullshit. I can see from all the things that you type that you make blatantly incorrect assumptions from things you hear or read in your own media. Find me a Japanese historical textbook, used in Japanese schools, that completely ignores the Nanjing China incident. You won't find one. That happened in the eighties IN CHINA, when Japanese politicians controlled things. It's not happening today.
As an American, I'm told constantly that I "don't know what I'm talking about" and am "uneducated" simply because I'm an American. I understand where this stereotype comes from...there are a lot of stupid people in America that have internet access. So, this gives me the unique perspective to compare the stereotypical American forum posts, that every foreigner loves to hate, with the recent posts that you have included here, "we want peace." Your posts have shown me that you have not actually researched the subject you're trying to argue, nor do you have any real factual information to back up your argument.
Key Point: Don't make arguments based on "how you feel." You DO NOT have the right to infringe upon others because you feel that the Japanese owe you an apology. Hell, my father was killed by a police car that forgot to turn on his siren and went blaring through an intersection, but I'm not even going to get an apology for something that personal. You don't need one for war attrocities that happened to people 67 years ago. They lost the war and had the shit kicked out of them and are embarassed for what they've done. Not to mention, not very much was even known about Unit 731 (responsible for Nanjing) until the 1970's. The politicians of the era following the many discoveries involving 731 are those that attempted to change texts and alter history.
Finally, the mentality of the Japanese during this era was one that, similar to the ideas of some conquests during the European medeival era, was one of spreading their respective gene pool into other areas of the world. You need to keep in mind that the leaders responsible for these ideas that lead to attrocities were KILLED for their crimes. I understand that no real apology was given by the Japanese government for Nanjing, but those war crimes were a response to similar occurences to Japanese people living in China pre-WW2 (i.e. Japanese were raped/killed by Chinese). That doesn't make it right, but you need to just end the judgment and just drop the situation or it will never go away. You're just beating a dead horse.
And, "we want peace," don't bother responding to my post. You don't have a firm enough grasp on English to understand what I'm typing, as is apparent in your previous posts, nor do you have any actual idea of how to form a convincing/proper argument. Hint: Peace does not include retaliation of any kind towards another country, simply because a radical, that happens to be of Japanese decent, bombed people in your country. That's the most illogical contradiction I have ever read.
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