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http://www.watoday.com.au/world/strangebuttrue/father-on-trial-for-branding-children-like-cattle-20100513-uyen.html
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Father on trial for branding children like cattle
A US man accused of branding his three children like cattle is on trial on assault charges in Washington state.
KIRO-TV reports that Mark Seamands branded his 13- and 15-year-old sons and 18-year-old daughter with the letters "SK" - for Seamands's Kids.
He has been charged with assaulting his sons but not his daughter because she was old enough to give consent.
Mr Seamands's former wife said she was horrified when she saw the scars on the younger boy's chest, the older boy's arm and the back of the daughter's leg.
KIRO said the boys were expected to testify in defence of their father because they were proud of their brands.
Mr Seamands is expected to take the stand and show his own brand.
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What's the point of having kids if you can't mark them as your property?
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On May 15 2010 06:09 Slow Motion wrote:
What's the point of having kids if you can't mark them as your property?
Well, you will get old and then the kids will have their way branding you.
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He has been charged with assaulting his sons but not his daughter because she was old enough to give consent. So she actually agreed to be branded?
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This sounds bad but the first thing I thought of when I saw SK was SKTT1 Telecom
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Put that fucking picture in spoiler tags. Thats disturbing as hell
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On May 15 2010 06:17 Emon_ wrote:
Put that fucking picture in spoiler tags. Thats disturbing as hell
It's not THATTTT discusting...
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On May 15 2010 06:17 Emon_ wrote:
Put that fucking picture in spoiler tags. Thats disturbing as hell
it's not like he branded a vagina into the letters
my god some of you people are pathetic spoiler nazi's
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.. Seriously, couldn't he have just given them tatoos?
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He forgot the "T" at the end.
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On May 15 2010 06:17 Emon_ wrote:
Put that fucking picture in spoiler tags. Thats disturbing as hell
Yeah, looks like they rubbed cherry chapstik on his arm and then made letters out of bacon bits. So gross.
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On May 15 2010 06:19 neobowman wrote:
.. Seriously, couldn't he have just given them tatoos?
But he already had the branding iron t-t
Mr Seamands's former wife said she was horrified when she saw the scars on the younger boy's chest, the older boy's arm and the back of the daughter's leg.
what up with the choices on placement.
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The kids think this was ok. Talk about brainwashing...
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On May 15 2010 06:17 il0seonpurpose wrote:
This sounds bad but the first thing I thought of when I saw SK was SKTT1 Telecom
Haha, if I had kids I'd love to brand the Wemade logo on them.
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On May 15 2010 06:19 neobowman wrote:
.. Seriously, couldn't he have just given them tatoos?
Too many health concerns with that. i.e. Hepatitis/HIV. Think dude, think.
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father is a SKT fan
but thats fucking horrible of him
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Yesterday it was all "Ohhhhhhh a teacher beat up a kid"
Now its all "Ohhhhhhhh a father branded his children"
I mean, seriously.. there are practical reasons here... Like, what if one of the kids got lost?
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He forgot the "T" at the end.
In all seriousness though, the kids are proud of the brand?
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This is just wrong. Kids should be able to decide for themselves which team they support.
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This is like the Cash song Boy Named Sue. Sure, at first glance, it looks like a really sick, twisted thing to do to kids. But think for a moment—Who the fuck is gonna mess with a 13 year old that was badass enough to sit through a branding??
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yea that brand / scab looks kinda gross... would not look again 
this is pretty sick imo... the kids will regret getting this tatoo for sure.
Youngest child:
(is having sex for his first time)
girlfriend: "what the fuck is that thing on your chest?"
kid: "uhh... it stands for... supreme kawk?"
could only lead to akwardness...
15-year old son:
(working out in the gym)
maybe he could bullshit something about a super coincidental scar, but most likely will get shitted too.
18-year old daughter: its sure as hell gonna be unsightly to wear any kind of pants other than jeans and the like cause there are huge ass scabs on your legs
unless those scabs in the picture are only temporary... in which case it might not be so bad :0
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On May 15 2010 06:46 Navi wrote:yea that brand / scab looks kinda gross... would not look again this is pretty sick imo... the kids will regret getting this tatoo for sure. Youngest child: (is having sex for his first time) girlfriend: "what the fuck is that thing on your chest?" kid: "uhh... it stands for... supreme kawk?" could only lead to akwardness... 15-year old son: (working out in the gym) maybe he could bullshit something about a super coincidental scar, but most likely will get shitted too. 18-year old daughter: its sure as hell gonna be unsightly to wear any kind of pants other than jeans and the like cause there are huge ass scabs on your legs unless those scabs in the picture are only temporary... in which case it might not be so bad :0
They could probably have some sort of plastic surgery to repair the skin, but this is still just so sickening. :\
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I'd want to distance myself from that last name as much as possible; not make my children have it on their body too.
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the father took that SK terran build order a little too literally
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I would've branded my kids with an OZ, especially with sk slumping.
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On May 15 2010 06:33 Energizer wrote:
Yesterday it was all "Ohhhhhhh a teacher beat up a kid"
Now its all "Ohhhhhhhh a father branded his children"
I mean, seriously.. there are practical reasons here... Like, what if one of the kids got lost?
SK... Of course Seamand's kids!
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After the thread where a guy had a knife through his head and the japanese kannibal who had eaten a student and now lives free... this doesn't even seem like news. It's still really odd.
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On May 15 2010 06:56 11cc wrote:
After the thread where a guy had a knife through his head and the japanese kannibal who had eaten a student and now lives free... this doesn't even seem like news. It's still really odd.
o god what have the internets done to us
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On May 15 2010 06:49 Garrl wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2010 06:46 Navi wrote:yea that brand / scab looks kinda gross... would not look again this is pretty sick imo... the kids will regret getting this tatoo for sure. Youngest child: (is having sex for his first time) girlfriend: "what the fuck is that thing on your chest?" kid: "uhh... it stands for... supreme kawk?" could only lead to akwardness... 15-year old son: (working out in the gym) maybe he could bullshit something about a super coincidental scar, but most likely will get shitted too. 18-year old daughter: its sure as hell gonna be unsightly to wear any kind of pants other than jeans and the like cause there are huge ass scabs on your legs unless those scabs in the picture are only temporary... in which case it might not be so bad :0 They could probably have some sort of plastic surgery to repair the skin, but this is still just so sickening. :\
It ends up just looking like pink, slightly raised skin. The Scabs obviously do go away. I know this because 3 of my friends decided to get brands during frosh week. One got a J, for the initial of his name, one got the uppercase greek letter sigma (like the one that represents sum in math), and i forget what the other got (I never saw it).
In case you were wondering, they were all super wasted when it was done. But only so it didn't hurt as much, they all had the idea before.
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On May 15 2010 06:33 Energizer wrote:
Yesterday it was all "Ohhhhhhh a teacher beat up a kid"
Now its all "Ohhhhhhhh a father branded his children"
I mean, seriously.. there are practical reasons here... Like, what if one of the kids got lost?
yeah you will find them waaaaaaaaaaay faster...
seriously...
i need to brand myself "TLN" = Team Liquids Nerd!
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SK only the T1 missing..that would be kinda cool.
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On May 15 2010 06:38 Motiva wrote:
This is just wrong. Kids should be able to decide for themselves which team they support.
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
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They are now property of SK-Gaming!
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It's a shame that the article doesn't describe much of the psychology behind it all.
I personally would find it incredibly interresting to find out the reasoning that the kids have behind being proud of being branded. And what made the father think branding them was a good idea.
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I'm sure the same people in this thread who are against this would at the same time fiercely protect the right of any person to mark their child for life by having them circumcised.
I also find this thread ironic considering the amount of tattoos, scarifications and other types of bodymodifications every other teenager have got on their bodies today.
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On May 15 2010 07:22 Hysterisk wrote:
I'm sure the same people in this thread who are against this would at the same time fiercely protect the right of any person to mark their child for life by having them circumcised.
I also find this thread ironic considering the amount of tattoos, scarifications and other types of bodymodifications every other teenager have got on their bodies today.
Then again, aren't those pretty much all in the hands of the person themselves? And I believe that here in the states, you must be 18 to get a tattoo of any sort. I don't have any myself, so I don't know for sure (or even if it's a state-to-state thing).
I know that my mom was good friends with her tattoo artist, and she got me free piercings whenever I went with her. Completely off topic, but whateva :p
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i want to feel bad for the kids, but this feeling is a little mitigated by the fact that they were proud of the brands...
What did that father do to his kids to make them think that it was okay?
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The kids are probably down with it because only badasses can handle being branded. Well, at least the boys.
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Its better than the swastikas that people were branding each other with.
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I'm sure SKT was the first thing most people on here thought when seeing the picture  . But the pic's still gross.
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If all the kids allowed it, powers to them!. I would've loved one as a kid, for sure I'd have gotten even more pussy!
Brand > Ink for sure.
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Its not that big... Not that different from tattoos piercings etc body modification. Hurts for a moment but thats it. Sure I'd like to hear their reasons for taking it though. People take fucking stupid tattoos all the time and theres no fuss of it...
Circumcision is much more groce though, and practically always done with the childs who can't consent yet
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On May 15 2010 06:17 Emon_ wrote:
Put that fucking picture in spoiler tags. Thats disturbing as hell
Stop being a wuss.
SK 4 lyfe yo
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We have a special topic for this kind of threads, especially weak ones like this were there's nothing much to it
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On May 15 2010 07:43 JohannesH wrote:
Its not that big... Not that different from tattoos piercings etc body modification. Hurts for a moment but thats it. Sure I'd like to hear their reasons for taking it though. People take fucking stupid tattoos all the time and theres no fuss of it...
Circumcision is much more groce though, and practically always done with the childs who can't consent yet
So you're saying branding your children is an ok thing to do?
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hmmm i don't know what to think of this...in my book, it's horribly wrong...but for some people it might be ok...isn't it ok to get tattoo with consent from parents? so what's the difference between getting tattoo and getting branded with consent of parent?
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Brands are badass. rock on crazy father. The kids obviously wanted it, and the story said the dad has his own. Must be a family tradition
On May 15 2010 07:43 JohannesH wrote:
Its not that big... Not that different from tattoos piercings etc body modification. Hurts for a moment but thats it.
Lol get branded, it hurts for a long ass time while it heals. Tattoos are pretty pain free in comparison in both intensitity and duration.
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man, the father must have strong ambitions for his son to join SKT1
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100$ says they're southerners
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On May 15 2010 08:10 DorF wrote:
100$ says they're southerners
Washington.
Pay up mo fucka.
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Oh how this reminds me of boarding school...lol
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A kid from one of my lab courses had his fraternity symbol branded on his arm. Kinda of like a tattoo I guess, but I disagree with this seeing the fact that they are children.
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If they agreed to it then I guess it's okay.
There is a lot more to this story that could be revealed, but that shit should be done by professional investigators. You know, if he is abusive, if they actually consented or if it was something forced, things of that nature.
Honestly, if they really are okay with it, I cannot fault anyone. If it was their choice, I don't believe anyone should say otherwise. It doesn't sound like the best idea to me, but that's just my opinion, of course.
But still...ouch...
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On May 15 2010 08:18 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
A kid from one of my lab courses had his fraternity symbol branded on his arm. Kinda of like a tattoo I guess, but I disagree with this seeing the fact that they are children.
What a douchebag
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On May 15 2010 07:56 Chairman Ray wrote:
man, the father must have strong ambitions for his son to join SKT1
On May 15 2010 07:09 valaki wrote:
SK only the T1 missing..that would be kinda cool.
What would "SKT1" stand for?
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Thats a nasty burn., Yeah thats totally fucked and possessive (what the initials stand for). Maybe if it had a cool design...
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I just don't like the "Kids" part. What happens when they grow up?! Think, man!
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On May 15 2010 08:48 GX.Sigma wrote:
I just don't like the "Kids" part. What happens when they grow up?! Think, man!
They'll still be his kids though.
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On May 15 2010 06:38 Motiva wrote:
This is just wrong. Kids should be able to decide for themselves which team they support.
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Oh man, this guy looks like he's really gonna get burned
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On May 15 2010 10:10 Maero wrote:
Oh man, this guy looks like he's really gonna get burned
I wonder if the judge will have a special brand of justice just for him.
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On May 15 2010 06:17 vvvVec wrote:Show nested quote +He has been charged with assaulting his sons but not his daughter because she was old enough to give consent. So she actually agreed to be branded?
On May 15 2010 06:07 Trav162 wrote:
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KIRO said the boys were expected to testify in defence of their father because they were proud of their brands.
I really don't want to post more because it should be BLATANTLY obvious that she did, since they're expected to speak in his defense.
On May 15 2010 06:17 il0seonpurpose wrote:
This sounds bad but the first thing I thought of when I saw SK was SKTT1 Telecom
Schroet Kommando was the first team to come to me, personally.
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Disturbing, I have to check my closet for crazed people with cattle prods now.
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Why would you want to brand your kids...jesus
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I like how the news article says "Man brands his children like cattle" when in reality they all agreed to it. Biased much.
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I guess he left his sharpie at the office :/
Seriously why would anyone every agree to that though... one messed up family i guess rofl
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On May 15 2010 10:18 gogogadgetflow wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2010 10:10 Maero wrote:
Oh man, this guy looks like he's really gonna get burned I wonder if the judge will have a special brand of justice just for him.
This whole event will be seared into those poor kids' memory.
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wow we got some bisu/boxer fanboys and a fangirl ;D
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he just wanted to show his love for Bisu...
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Should have been KT Fingerboom.
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Ok ... that kid looks kinda big why didnt he/she run?
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Wow some of yall didn't actually read. The kids agreed to get them. So why run...? Maybe to cool off their new sweet stamp?
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I doubt the kid actually agreed. I think the persecutor may find it hard to prove that she did not agree, however.
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It seems really stupid to use 'SK' instead of his initials, 'MS'. If you're going to brand your children then the "Kids" part is implied. I'm pretty sure when cattle are branded a 'C' isn't added at the end to signify "Cows".
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On May 15 2010 12:21 Lefnui wrote:
It seems really stupid to use 'SK' instead of his initials, 'MS'. If you're going to brand your children then the "Kids" part is implied. I'm pretty sure when cattle are branded a 'C' isn't added at the end to signify "Cows".
I also think the placement could be improved. A stamp on the back of their hands or the forehead is much more likely to be noticed and unlikely to be mistaken for something frivolous and artful.
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On May 15 2010 10:55 DM20 wrote:
I like how the news article says "Man brands his children like cattle" when in reality they all agreed to it. Biased much.
Because they're children. Children below a certain age aren't able to give consent. It's for the same reason that if you manage to convince a child to have sex with you, it still doesn't count as consent.
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lol @ all the dumb puns and SKT1 references
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why has no one made fun of his name SEAMANds
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On May 15 2010 06:17 il0seonpurpose wrote:
This sounds bad but the first thing I thought of when I saw SK was SKTT1 Telecom
we're both bad people then
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this should be a requirement for the Hyuk Fanclub thread
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On May 15 2010 12:30 NicolBolas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2010 10:55 DM20 wrote:
I like how the news article says "Man brands his children like cattle" when in reality they all agreed to it. Biased much. Because they're children. Children below a certain age aren't able to give consent. It's for the same reason that if you manage to convince a child to have sex with you, it still doesn't count as consent.
It has nothing to do with whether or not they were children. They added in cattle to make it sound like he was treating his children like animals, causing people to judge the situation before they even know the facts.
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dont some african cultures do body manipulation to there children much worse then this.. like flaying the flesh all over the body with a knife as a passage to manhood.. women that have there necks extended to extreme lengths and full body tattoos.
this is kinda tame in comparison
people are over reacting.
edit The sc jokes are nerdy and not funny
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It's weird, but there have been a lot more worse things that have happened. In that respect it's not really a big deal. If the kids weren't fine with it, then it'd be a different story.
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love how the media makes it sound like the most terrible thing to happen
sure its kinda weird but if the kids wanted it and were okay with it then why not?
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On May 15 2010 12:30 NicolBolas wrote:
Because they're children. Children below a certain age aren't able to give consent. It's for the same reason that if you manage to convince a child to have sex with you, it still doesn't count as consent.
Yeah, it's illegal. But the law shouldn't be used as the ultimate judicator for what counts as right and wrong. It's reasonable to consider the law as being mostly right about things, but it just can't possibly always be right about all things, and we should be mindful of that. Also I think we can agree that there's a clear moral difference between having sex with a young child, and branding one.
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What the fuck is...I just don't even..
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