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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 12:18:05
November 22 2014 09:04 GMT
#1081
Vice report part one
(WARNING - this is disturbing and very graphic. Dont watch if you dont have the stomach for it)



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edit --
From the demonstrations of two days ago

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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 22 2014 18:43 GMT
#1082
On November 21 2014 07:51 Sermokala wrote:
I wonder if its time to consider american Military intervention into Mexico.


No not even close to such an option being discussed. But there were plans discussed at the Department of Defense around 07-08 when Northern Mexico was a daily blood bath of what the US would need to do if the Mexican Government collapsed from internal strife.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 22 2014 19:02 GMT
#1083
in the past page, there was a bunch of picture posts about the protests.

"4.I dont know where was this but its awesome"

#4, could someone explain whats going on? I get that they are burning something, but i don't know what the importance of it is, or what it is.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 22 2014 19:34 GMT
#1084
its basically a symbol; the students were burned (some were still gasping for life when set alight)

the rioters have promised to burn a governmental building for each of the missing students
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 22 2014 19:55 GMT
#1085
this just in



what does the mexican govt do? put more students in jail, accuse them of terrorism.
http://www.proceso.com.mx/?p=388668

can someone with spanish knowledge translate the above please in a short summary, thx
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miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 21:33:44
November 22 2014 21:33 GMT
#1086
Transalation on the article above



Title is "11 youngs transfered to a maximum security prison, accused of terrorism and organize crime"

the 11 students (8 males and 3 females) that were arrested during the night of thursday 20, were moved to a maximum security prisons, the males to veracruz state, and the girls to nayarit. said by Eliana Garcia of the Assistant attorney of human rights especialized in organize crime.

Counselor Alejandro Jimenez member of the mexican institute of democracy and human rights anounced this morning in a press conference that he demanded to the autorithies the videos which supposely prove the responsability of the 11 arrested youngs of their accused felonys.

"this is the attitude of a real dictator”, said Ana Cruz González, mother of the student of political science school in UNAM, Hillary, in reference to Enrique Peña Nieto.
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-22 21:41:59
November 22 2014 21:40 GMT
#1087
^^thank you for the translation

More photos here

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U.S. Embassy Warns Citizens to Avoid Mexican Resort of Acapulco


The advisory is a blow to a resort once favored by Hollywood stars, and adds pressure on the government of President Enrique Peña Nieto, which has been struggling to defuse nationwide outrage unleashed by the students' disappearances.


Source
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miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
November 22 2014 21:48 GMT
#1088
On November 23 2014 04:02 StorrZerg wrote:
in the past page, there was a bunch of picture posts about the protests.

"4.I dont know where was this but its awesome"

#4, could someone explain whats going on? I get that they are burning something, but i don't know what the importance of it is, or what it is.


whats going on ? - we have no democracy, nor justice, nor honest law officers, thats whats going on.

Elections have been arrenged pretty much since forever, 70 years of PRI party then 12 of PAN party who turned out to be the same or even worse incompetent bullshit and corrupted than pri.

The 43 students of Guerrero were about to make some big protests and thats why the govmt wanted them "silenced" but apparently their police underlings understood "killed". So they were kidnapped and burned, some of them alive.

We have had more than enough reasons for making a uprise/revolution for way too many years now. but since more than half of our people are still ignorants or live in poverty, we haven been able to unite.

Some people have finally started to realize that this pseudo corrupted state cant continue and thats what u see on the streets.


TLDR> our contry is literraly kidnapped, we have no democracy, and protesting puts u in danger
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
November 23 2014 04:45 GMT
#1089
i mean i get the general grasp of whats going on, i was meaning more specifically as to what they are burning.. in that picture specifically.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 23 2014 17:01 GMT
#1090
The Navy Secretariat has denied a story published in The Wall Street Journal that claimed that U.S. law enforcement personnel were participating in operations targeting drug cartels in Mexico.

"We categorically deny that American authorities or those from any other country have participated with Mexican navy personnel in tactical operations in the field against organized crime utilizing Mexican uniforms and arms," the secretariat said in a statement.

The U.S. business newspaper reported Saturday that U.S. Justice Department personnel regularly participated in operations targeting drug traffickers while using Mexican uniforms and firearms.

The secret missions were agreed to by high-level U.S. Marshals Service officials and Mexican marine corps commanders, and are approved at the highest levels of Mexico's government.

The missions are not without risk, the newspaper said.


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Haato
Profile Joined March 2011
Mexico81 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 10:31:40
November 24 2014 10:26 GMT
#1091
On November 23 2014 13:45 StorrZerg wrote:
i mean i get the general grasp of whats going on, i was meaning more specifically as to what they are burning.. in that picture specifically.


I believe those are the tiny cages they use at gas stations to display engine oil and whatnot. Guess, symbolically, they're against energy reforms and PEMEX
EDIT: I guess it's the equivalent of burning a gas station without all the explosions and wasted materials


Speaking of the energetic reform, FRACKING got approved over a weekend in July.
As part of it they also changed the laws so that hydrocarbon exploration & extraction activities have precedence over any type of land property or use (they worded it as "social interest" and "public order").

With this they're allowing translational companies to extract off the land of any indigenous lands or private property (This also applies for the electric company, which may now freely put up grids/networks through private properties).
All this for a specifically ambiguous compensation of between 0.5 and 2% of the earnings derived from the exploitation of their property. The outrageous part is that this ambiguity makes it so property owners have to negotiate personally with transnational companies and get bullied/intimidated.

The few are going to line their pockets through ecological disaster and we're all gonna pay for it... sigh.

EDIT #2: Source in spanish: http://www.sinembargo.mx/21-07-2014/1063912
death is easy, comedy is hard
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
November 24 2014 18:19 GMT
#1092
democracynow report: src from a week ago. fucking grim.

best of luck to the protestors: destroy your oppressors.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 24 2014 19:46 GMT
#1093
Mexico Protests Boiling Over, Will Violence And Corruption Finally End?

The entire country is outraged, it is not just them. There are thousands of disappeared, thousands of clandestine graves, thousands of mothers who don’t know where their children are.


Source
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xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 24 2014 21:36 GMT
#1094
Vice report part 2 of 3 - "The Search Continues"

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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-24 22:43:57
November 24 2014 22:43 GMT
#1095
I wonder how many Mexicans would support paying the very high price that would be necessary for them to win their drug war.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 26 2014 17:21 GMT
#1096
MEXICO CITY (AP) — The normally bucolic, vacationer-crowded state at the tip of Mexico's Baja peninsula has become a battleground, with dozens of killings in a power struggle following the capture of drug lord Joaquin "El Chapo" Guzman nearly a year ago.

The bloodshed has been concentrated in La Paz, the capital of Baja California Sur state. In the latest killings, two men bound, gagged and showing signs of torture were dumped onto streets in exclusive neighborhoods Sunday and another person was found shot to death Tuesday.

The local newspaper El Sudcaliforniano, which puts the mounting death toll in each headline on stories about violence, has reported 46 homicides in and around the city so far this year. That doesn't include the apparent shooting victim on a La Paz sidewalk Tuesday. Federal statistics through October counted 48 killings for the entire state.

Baja California Sur is better known for its beaches and Los Cabos resorts that draw thousands of American tourists. But since last year it has experienced a level of drug violence it had previously been spared.

Many of the cases have been gangland style killings, victims bound, shot, strangled or burned inside a car. Mexican authorities say it is the result of a battle for control of the drug trade since Guzman's February arrest and several other high-profile takedowns in the past year of leadership in Mexico's powerful Sinaloa Cartel.

A law enforcement official, who could not be quoted by name because of security reasons, told The Associated Press in October that criminal factions were competing for power. "It appears they're still working out how all this is going to fit together," he said.

It is not clear why the war among factions of the Sinaloa Cartel, named for the Pacific coast state where it was founded, had jumped the Gulf of California to Baja California Sur. But the cartel long battled the once-powerful Arellano Felix gang for control of drug routes on the Baja peninsula into the U.S. and is largely considered to have taken over the territory. Some of Sinaloa's biggest marijuana growing and warehousing operations have been found in Baja California Norte state close to the U.S. border, under which the cartel has built elaborate undergroundtunnels for smuggling.

The law enforcement official said a new generation was stepping forward that included the sons of Guzman and Sinaloa boss Ismael "El Mayo" Zambada.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xtorn
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
4060 Posts
November 26 2014 18:32 GMT
#1097
Mexico leader forced into action over 43 missing


The presumed massacre of the 43 aspiring teachers was the last straw for many Mexicans.
...
Students from the missing young men's Ayotzinapa teacher-training college have given Pena Nieto until December 1, the anniversary of his presidency, to step down.



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Violence against women soars in Mexico


The numbers of abductions, rapes, and murders of women are higher in Mexico than ever before, with an average of seven women killed violently every day, according to local media. In July, U.N. special rapporteur on violence against women, Rashida Manjoo, said that Mexican women suffer from multiple and intersecting forms of violence, ranging from militarization as part of the so-called war on drugs, to impunity among security forces, to impediments to women seeking access to justice.

In some states, including Chihuahua and Guerrero — which are engulfed in violence from organized crime — the rates are even higher at 10.1 and 12.8 murders per 100,000 women, respectively. That means Guerrero’s murder rate among women is about five times higher than the global average. Most of the deaths are young women, and most are killed in public by gunfire, according to the data.



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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 04:54:15
November 27 2014 04:52 GMT
#1098
Every day that passes it's nice to know that Peña Nieto hasn't yet succumbed to the strategy of Gustavo Ordaz and responded in the same style when students protested.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
November 27 2014 05:51 GMT
#1099
On November 27 2014 13:52 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Every day that passes it's nice to know that Peña Nieto hasn't yet succumbed to the strategy of Gustavo Ordaz and responded in the same style when students protested.

Every day that Peña Nieto doesnt resign he confirms that he doesnt really care about the peoples will, every day he doesnt resign he continues opressing us, he mocks of us, he travels on a billionare plane above all of the 60% percent of the population that lives in poverty, he is not doing anything right, he is selling our country to his own benefit, we dont want him, if there was any justice on this world he should be dead or at least in jail for his crimes.
My anaconda dont want none... u know the rest
miky_ardiente
Profile Joined May 2010
Mexico387 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-27 06:21:03
November 27 2014 06:09 GMT
#1100
good thing EPN is the peaceful angel of justice, this man had a kid and was willing to use it, surely it was a bomb kid

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Please not even the advertise has changed

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