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numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
November 19 2009 22:50 GMT
#21
That is ridiculous. From a business standpoint, involving the police is retarded and I really hope their restaurant suffers some losses because of this.
The people should never be forced to pay a tip. I typically pay it, maybe paying less if service is less, but if someone chooses to skip the tip because of shitty service they should not end up in the back of a police car.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 19 2009 22:52 GMT
#22
On November 20 2009 07:45 Code wrote:
lol even if the group was larger than 8 people and the gratuity is "required" the restaurant is retarded for doing this in the first place.


this is pretty common where i live.

the customers were more retarded for choosing to get arrested instead of paying $16 for the service.

and even if it's bad service it requires a lot of effort to serve 8 people
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 19 2009 22:52 GMT
#23
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jfazz
Profile Joined September 2009
Australia672 Posts
November 19 2009 22:54 GMT
#24
No restauraunt I have been to in Europe has a tip already figured into the bill - maybe in dodgier ones, but not anywhere nice.

In Australia, where tipping just isn't done (a study lsat year showed something like 3% of Australians tip), the reason boils down to the waiters getting paid quite well - they don't need the tips to survive.

The same isn't true in the US, so regardless of the service, I feel you have to tip - in 99% of cases it isn't the fault of the waiter if the service is slow, its usually the floor manager, other customers or kitchen staff. So cut the poor guys/girls some slack.

Nonetheless, the notion of a 'mandatory gratuity' is quite laughable.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
November 19 2009 22:56 GMT
#25
They shouldn't be allowed to call it gratuity, it's almost like false advertising. If it was "service charge" people would feel worse about having to pay it but then it would be obvious it's a fee.
No I'm never serious.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
November 19 2009 22:56 GMT
#26
Mandatory gratuity is an oxymoron of a term if I've ever heard one. I always tip because I've never gotten terrible service, but I always thought of the tip as motivation for the place to treat you well.

If you're legally required to 'tip' at a place, don't call it a tip, just add it to the base price. It's obviously nothing resembling a 'gratuity' or a 'tip'.
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Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
November 19 2009 22:57 GMT
#27
On November 20 2009 07:52 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 07:45 Code wrote:
lol even if the group was larger than 8 people and the gratuity is "required" the restaurant is retarded for doing this in the first place.


this is pretty common where i live.

the customers were more retarded for choosing to get arrested instead of paying $16 for the service.

and even if it's bad service it requires a lot of effort to serve 8 people


they felt like they werent being served. So if they were in groups of 4 and asked to be seated close to each other than they can skip out on the tip because their party is less than 6?
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 19 2009 23:00 GMT
#28
On November 20 2009 07:57 Forgottenfrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 07:52 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:45 Code wrote:
lol even if the group was larger than 8 people and the gratuity is "required" the restaurant is retarded for doing this in the first place.


this is pretty common where i live.

the customers were more retarded for choosing to get arrested instead of paying $16 for the service.

and even if it's bad service it requires a lot of effort to serve 8 people


they felt like they werent being served. So if they were in groups of 4 and asked to be seated close to each other than they can skip out on the tip because their party is less than 6?


i have no idea how restaurants deal with people gaming the system like that.

but yeah there are mandatory gratuities all over the place, read the fine print.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
November 19 2009 23:07 GMT
#29
I used to work as host so I have tons of sympathy for the service staff but honestly arrested is going too far. Just spit in the drink next time! =(
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
November 19 2009 23:07 GMT
#30
On November 20 2009 08:00 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 07:57 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:52 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:45 Code wrote:
lol even if the group was larger than 8 people and the gratuity is "required" the restaurant is retarded for doing this in the first place.


this is pretty common where i live.

the customers were more retarded for choosing to get arrested instead of paying $16 for the service.

and even if it's bad service it requires a lot of effort to serve 8 people


they felt like they werent being served. So if they were in groups of 4 and asked to be seated close to each other than they can skip out on the tip because their party is less than 6?


i have no idea how restaurants deal with people gaming the system like that.

but yeah there are mandatory gratuities all over the place, read the fine print.


Who's really gaming the system here? MANDATORY gratuties.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-19 23:10:11
November 19 2009 23:08 GMT
#31
On November 20 2009 08:07 Forgottenfrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 08:00 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:57 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:52 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:45 Code wrote:
lol even if the group was larger than 8 people and the gratuity is "required" the restaurant is retarded for doing this in the first place.


this is pretty common where i live.

the customers were more retarded for choosing to get arrested instead of paying $16 for the service.

and even if it's bad service it requires a lot of effort to serve 8 people


they felt like they werent being served. So if they were in groups of 4 and asked to be seated close to each other than they can skip out on the tip because their party is less than 6?


i have no idea how restaurants deal with people gaming the system like that.

but yeah there are mandatory gratuities all over the place, read the fine print.


Who's really gaming the system here? MANDATORY gratuties.


Mandatory gratuities are all over the place, it's not the restaurant's fault that the customers are too dumb to understand the word "mandatory".

The name of the thread should be "group arrested for not paying bill" since it was a normal part of the bill for large groups.
Forgottenfrog
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1268 Posts
November 19 2009 23:11 GMT
#32
On November 20 2009 08:08 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 08:07 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 08:00 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:57 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:52 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:45 Code wrote:
lol even if the group was larger than 8 people and the gratuity is "required" the restaurant is retarded for doing this in the first place.


this is pretty common where i live.

the customers were more retarded for choosing to get arrested instead of paying $16 for the service.

and even if it's bad service it requires a lot of effort to serve 8 people


they felt like they werent being served. So if they were in groups of 4 and asked to be seated close to each other than they can skip out on the tip because their party is less than 6?


i have no idea how restaurants deal with people gaming the system like that.

but yeah there are mandatory gratuities all over the place, read the fine print.


Who's really gaming the system here? MANDATORY gratuties.


Mandatory gratuities are all over the place, it's not the restaurant's fault that the customers are too dumb to understand the word "mandatory".

The name of the thread should be "group arrested for not paying bill" since it was a normal part of the bill for large groups.


Or the restaurant fault for not understand the word gratuties.
Athos
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2484 Posts
November 19 2009 23:11 GMT
#33
I hate places that include the tip in the actual bill. It seems to completely destroy the idea of tipping. This arrest was completely unjustified and I am confident it won't hold up in court.
Bebop Berserker
Profile Joined April 2009
United States246 Posts
November 19 2009 23:12 GMT
#34
You do have to play grautuity, but wtf. I would just organize a giant dine and dash to repay them for being such assholes as to have to police come over $15. This kind of shit is why policemen fucking suck. If i had shown up I would have been like he stole $15?!?!? Seriously, don't waste our time...
Whatever happens, happens.
AmstAff
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Germany949 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-19 23:14:32
November 19 2009 23:13 GMT
#35
"Police charged them with theft since the gratuity was part of the actual bill." so if they know they have to pay, they should have payed it just. imo they can talk with the manager about the shitty service and normaly he will offer them to pay only for a part of the bill. i was trainee in an hotel and i can just say: people want best service, most expensive food (especially when they go out with friends or people they know) and pay as less as possible. nobody of us where there, so we cant really judge. when things like this happened i just gave the people something for free (coke/coffee or something) and they were just happy or i just talked with them and explained them that it will take some minutes more and it was ok. i think both sides had a fault of 50% in that situation.
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Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
November 19 2009 23:14 GMT
#36
cant americans just stop embarrassing themselves in front of the whole world.
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MuffinDude
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3837 Posts
November 19 2009 23:14 GMT
#37
Wow, what a retarded manager.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 19 2009 23:15 GMT
#38
On November 20 2009 08:11 Forgottenfrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 08:08 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 08:07 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 08:00 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:57 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:52 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:45 Code wrote:
lol even if the group was larger than 8 people and the gratuity is "required" the restaurant is retarded for doing this in the first place.


this is pretty common where i live.

the customers were more retarded for choosing to get arrested instead of paying $16 for the service.

and even if it's bad service it requires a lot of effort to serve 8 people


they felt like they werent being served. So if they were in groups of 4 and asked to be seated close to each other than they can skip out on the tip because their party is less than 6?


i have no idea how restaurants deal with people gaming the system like that.

but yeah there are mandatory gratuities all over the place, read the fine print.


Who's really gaming the system here? MANDATORY gratuties.


Mandatory gratuities are all over the place, it's not the restaurant's fault that the customers are too dumb to understand the word "mandatory".

The name of the thread should be "group arrested for not paying bill" since it was a normal part of the bill for large groups.


Or the restaurant fault for not understand the word gratuties.


I don't think you understand. It's VERY COMMON for large groups to be charged a mandatory gratuity. The restaurant apparently needed the cops to deal with unruly customers.

You can't just pay for part of the bill and refuse to pay the rest.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28811 Posts
November 19 2009 23:17 GMT
#39
sounds like minimum wages should increase so tips aren't mandatory nor necessary for a waiter or waitress and then it can actually be a tip rather than part of the paycheck.
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WhuazGoodJaggah
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Lesotho777 Posts
November 19 2009 23:19 GMT
#40
On November 20 2009 08:15 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2009 08:11 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 08:08 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 08:07 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 08:00 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:57 Forgottenfrog wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:52 jalstar wrote:
On November 20 2009 07:45 Code wrote:
lol even if the group was larger than 8 people and the gratuity is "required" the restaurant is retarded for doing this in the first place.


this is pretty common where i live.

the customers were more retarded for choosing to get arrested instead of paying $16 for the service.

and even if it's bad service it requires a lot of effort to serve 8 people


they felt like they werent being served. So if they were in groups of 4 and asked to be seated close to each other than they can skip out on the tip because their party is less than 6?


i have no idea how restaurants deal with people gaming the system like that.

but yeah there are mandatory gratuities all over the place, read the fine print.


Who's really gaming the system here? MANDATORY gratuties.


Mandatory gratuities are all over the place, it's not the restaurant's fault that the customers are too dumb to understand the word "mandatory".

The name of the thread should be "group arrested for not paying bill" since it was a normal part of the bill for large groups.


Or the restaurant fault for not understand the word gratuties.


I don't think you understand. It's VERY COMMON for large groups to be charged a mandatory gratuity. The restaurant apparently needed the cops to deal with unruly customers.

You can't just pay for part of the bill and refuse to pay the rest.



how about make the bill clear with 1 number instead of this bullshit trickery?

americans are really stupid, do they always wipe their ass through the legs?
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