EPTOn November 12 2009 16:40 Velr wrote:
Yeah, and who is gonna attack them.. Except the US?
Yeah, and who is gonna attack them.. Except the US?
Hahaha that made me laugh xD
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Zoler
Sweden6339 Posts
Hahaha that made me laugh xD | ||
TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
On November 12 2009 16:35 .risingdragoon wrote: economically yes, but just imagine what would happen if texas leaves the constitutional protection of the US they got no army. Texans are armed to the teeth, relatively speaking. Texans could probably hold a high level insurgency that would make the counter-insurgency in Iraq and Afghanistan feel like a cakewalk. The US Army might be able to waltz in there and commit plenty of atrocities though. They could also bomb Texas into oblivion, but would that level of violence be sanctioned by the rest of the US? I might pose another poll. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On November 12 2009 16:40 Velr wrote: Yeah, and who is gonna attack them.. Except the US? oh you better believe! damn right US will send in the  | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
Poll: What would be your reaction to a part of the country seceding? (Vote): Move there. Be free of central government tyranny! (Vote): Personally take up arms. Kill those traitors! (Vote): I don't know. I am a drone. I listen to whatever my government tells me to do. (Vote): War! I might not fight but at least I'm a chickenhawk! (Vote): Peace! Let them secede! (Vote): Secession is a good idea. I think I'll do it, too. (Vote): I hope it doesn't affect me. I think I'll hide under a rock until everything blows over. | ||
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MoltkeWarding
5195 Posts
The Canadian government would have to be pretty humanitarian and hold a complete disregard for national welfare to consent to annex Michigan. | ||
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LordWeird
United States3411 Posts
This would be perfectly okay with me. Except give West Virginia to the Mexicans or even the Canadians, tired of being associated with those folks over there O_O | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On November 12 2009 22:25 MoltkeWarding wrote: The Canadian government would have to be pretty humanitarian and hold a complete disregard for national welfare to consent to annex Michigan. touche. Our economy is fucked now but we will be back. | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
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seppolevne
Canada1681 Posts
On November 13 2009 04:45 TanGeng wrote: I'm sorry, but Michigan's economy has been dead for a full decade now. The amount of effort that's going into pretending that the corpse isn't dead is frightening. It's getting near necrophilia now. I just wonder how much longer GM and Ford and continue to put up their zombie act. As long as southern Ontario is around Michigan won't die, they have a booming Canadian garbage industry! | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32148 Posts
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On November 12 2009 22:28 LordWeird wrote: This would be perfectly okay with me. Except give West Virginia to the Mexicans or even the Canadians, tired of being associated with those folks over there O_O Which state goes to Korea? That would immediately become the wannabe-games-nerd capital of the world | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On November 13 2009 05:19 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Which state goes to Korea? That would immediately become the wannabe-games-nerd capital of the world none because korea goes to china  us troops would have to be withdrawn from overseas to fight secessionists | ||
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TanGeng
Sanya12364 Posts
Chinese influence on that map is kind of a joke. The four separate regions would exert more influence on each other than Russia, Canada, Mexico, or China. I think the Northeast would still out-populate Canada, so there'd be more influence the other way around. Finally, the Russian professor also entirely ignores Japan. I say Japan takes Hawaii and half of Washington. Speaking in terms of influence of course. Hawaii would be independent and Washington would be part of the Pacific coast. The western states are actually quite logical because it covers the right watersheds. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17768 Posts
On November 12 2009 12:06 Carnac wrote: ![[image loading]](http://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/P1-AO116_RUSPRO_NS_20081228191715.gif) Wow, the vision of travelling across the atlantic without need of passport is tempting  | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
this was always mexicos plan , they have always seen texas as part of mexico | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On November 12 2009 15:02 .risingdragoon wrote: I've heard this talk from a professor a few years ago that said it's possible for America to fall apart in 10 years. it's possible, hard to imagine that it'd. It is quite likely It would be like telling people in 1980 that the soviet union would collapse in 10 years , they would not accept it Although the problems the Soviet Union faced were entirely different to those the US faces now.They had large debts and an unwinnable war in Afghanistan.Yup...entirely different. | ||
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ultramagnetics
Poland215 Posts
If you think about American politics, culture, economy, military, and history, it becomes quite obvious that secession (at least of the 50 states) is extremely unlikely. Also, I know my argument is not an argument. I'm mostly just refuting the argument supporting plausible secession. | ||
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On November 18 2009 22:05 PobTheCad wrote: It is quite likely It would be like telling people in 1980 that the soviet union would collapse in 10 years , they would not accept it Although the problems the Soviet Union faced were entirely different to those the US faces now.They had large debts and an unwinnable war in Afghanistan.Yup...entirely different. But we're not talking about a territorial empire here. The Soviet Union had a bunch of satellite states that opressed their own people and was a ticking time bomb. I can certainly see the U.S. influence around the world being reduced, but not anything like a partition of the country itself. American society is not divided nor politicized enough for this to happen, many people care more about the latests mischiefs of their favorite celebrity than about politics . | ||
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PobTheCad
Australia893 Posts
On November 19 2009 00:56 ultramagnetics wrote: It's actually very very unlikely. It's a pretty simplistic and weak argument to say: "its happened before when we didn't expect it, so in this very different situation it could likely happen again". If you think about American politics, culture, economy, military, and history, it becomes quite obvious that secession (at least of the 50 states) is extremely unlikely. Also, I know my argument is not an argument. I'm mostly just refuting the argument supporting plausible secession. my point is a collapse of the current system in america IS inevitable how do you expect them to pay back the trillions in debt? 1.4 trillion budget deficit this year alone let alone the trade deficit , future medicare and social security payment , future bank bailouts etc no-one knows exactly what will happen when the US dollar crashes and sends the country into a hyperinflationary spiral but you can be sure the country will be a heck of a lot different than it is now.civil war is not out of the question. | ||
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