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Hey now the US will expand! We will get Puetro Rico sometime! 
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On November 12 2009 14:36 ShoCkeyy wrote:It's not going to happen. Ever. This is just an absurd idea. Right now all the states are depending on the national government. You really think that any state can survive with out money? Almost every state is in bankruptcy. The idea in general shouldn't even be thought of either way.
Wealth is not created by the federal government but by the people. The government then taxes the people or borrows against future tax revenues and redistributes the funds as it sees fit. there is no free lunch at a national level.
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On November 12 2009 14:34 ShroomyD wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2009 14:18 jalstar wrote:On November 12 2009 14:15 ShroomyD wrote:On November 12 2009 12:30 tree.hugger wrote:
No, it's true, I may have been wrong to characterize secession as treason. The session of the Confederacy wasn't the main act of treason, the firing upon territory held by the Union Army was. Some would take the resupplying of Fort Sumter as Union aggression on the South(twas in Charleston county right?), giving a sort of casus belli to both sides (sounds like someone was getting ready for way~!!). resupplying does not equal firing. and i don't think the soldiers there chose to secede. well it seemed like the people of south carolina did :S the thing with democracy is that you can vote with your feet~! no need to start a war over your stubbornness``1~!~!~!`1~!!~1111!!!
The US is not a democracy
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[quote]The US is not a democracy[/quote ]
ohhh the beauty of oligarchy~!!!
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I've heard this talk from a professor a few years ago that said it's possible for America to fall apart in 10 years. it's possible, hard to imagine that it'd.
but seceding is totally different. like Tibet to China, US will never tolerate the breakup of its union. It's a symbolic sacrilege like gagging and humping the lady liberty while the abled just watched uselessly, complete emasculation.
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On November 12 2009 12:06 Carnac wrote:hahahaha, wow this is great
nothing strange about this
when there's a power vacuum, other interests naturally swoop in and take up shop
I'd imagine China to be just such a case if the world wars hadn't happened, and later the communist hadn't retained control
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wow, the comments on that site are pretty wack
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[QUOTE]On November 12 2009 15:00 ShroomyD wrote:
[quote]The US is not a democracy[/quote ]
ohhh the beauty of oligarchy~!!![/QUOTE]
...Republic
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On November 12 2009 15:10 Undisputed- wrote:...Republic It seems to me like you're just arguing semantics.
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None of the states will ever secede. Those southerners tried to do it about 150 years ago. Remember how well that turned out?
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I think Texas seceding would be hilarious. I would love that.
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economically yes, but just imagine what would happen if texas leaves the constitutional protection of the US
they got no army.
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On November 12 2009 16:35 .risingdragoon wrote:
economically yes, but just imagine what would happen if texas leaves the constitutional protection of the US
they got no army.
Yeah, and who is gonna attack them.. Except the US?
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USA will never split. Though our ideals vary, every state strongly believes in the notion of unity.
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As of right now, there is far too great of a socio-economic benefit from being in the US. Unless this changes DRAMATICALLY (along the lines of wide-spread poverty), or something completely ridiculous happens that shifts the world in a difficult to predict fashion, I doubt this will happen. Maybe in a few hundred years, but the US isn't quite as much of a vulnerable "nation state" as other countries have been. We rely too much on the central government.
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On November 12 2009 12:00 BuGzlToOnl wrote:
As far as I know Pennsylvania is the only commonwealth in the US.
It's not actually a state, but gets counted as one for some unknown reason. Technically we've been "seceded" from the rest of the US since the beginning.
Kentucky is a commonwealth. I think there are at least 5 or 6?
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I think 20 years is optimistic.
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American Civil War 2, anyone?
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