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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
November 12 2009 10:05 GMT
#221
Of course they should be allowed as long as they can qualify for the same physical tests the males takes.
Tenryu
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States565 Posts
November 12 2009 10:15 GMT
#222
On November 12 2009 18:40 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2009 17:36 Tenryu wrote:
Also to go against someone elses argument by having women "atleast" try. The military cant afford that type of money. It takes hundreds of thousands of dollars to train 1 soldier. 1 SOLDIER. You think the government is going to waste that money on just giving someone a chance? Sorry buddy, it doesnt work that way; Accept reality

It doesn't cost that much to train one soldier and if they were incapable they would be weeded out early in the training. Plus that ignores the fact that you let men try and fail. The military can't afford to waste that money giving men a chance.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_the_cost_of_training_a_soldier_in_the_military

The chances of a male soldier passing basic training and the additional training required will be much higher then that of a female. Infact, the chances of a male soldier passing basic alone, infantry or not, is much higher then that of a female. And the sad thing is that the requirments and the state of training in basic training has been dumbed down immensley in the past couple of years.


You can argue all you want but unless you have experience in the situation, i dont wanna hear it =\
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Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
November 12 2009 10:26 GMT
#223
Your life, do whatever you want with it. Women are allowed to get themselves killed just as much as men are. By all means go ahead.
~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
2b-Rigtheous
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Korea (South)50 Posts
November 12 2009 10:27 GMT
#224
Well said Tenryu. It all sounds fine and well in theory that women can jump in the infantry, but in reality that is not the case. Some of these guys watch way too much feminist trash on TV. Funny thing is they actually believe that women and men are equal in all aspects. What nonsense! We both have our advantages and disadvantages. It just so happens that men are far superior when it comes to physically demanding and emotionally draining tasks. I hope I didn't hurt the feminists feelings...

Feminist: "but women and men are the same, it's only our culture that has shaped women's roles" lol!!!! Nature, look it up in the dictionary...

Ghardo
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Germany1685 Posts
November 12 2009 11:12 GMT
#225
no, the very strength of the army as we know it is that there are no women - no distractions, no overboiling testosterone... funnily there are WoW guilds that intentionally go without women for exactly these reasons.
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
November 12 2009 11:53 GMT
#226
So... anybody else read the OP and feel unable to resist the thought entering their head about whether she's good looking or not? Rather than whether she's combat capable....

I know, I know. Serious discussion and all... But I couldn't help it. It just popped in there.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 12:26:42
November 12 2009 12:18 GMT
#227
On November 12 2009 13:27 EniraM(CA) wrote:
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On November 12 2009 13:21 KwarK wrote:
On November 12 2009 13:15 EniraM(CA) wrote:
And I do not discriminate.
But there is no way in hell I would want one fighting by my side in the shit.


Also I'm pretty sure + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
could keep up with you on the battlefield. Obviously she's not the majority but we're not arguing for the average woman to be in the infantry (the same as we're not arguing for the average man (overweight and unfit)) to be in the infantry. The point is simply that some women are as capable as some men.


Wrong. You still fail to see the big picture. And by posting me 1 picture of some body builder (lol) you prove how little you understand.
She may have muscles and upper body strength. But all other points are still valid.
She doesn't have the cold blooded-ness to be in the infantry.


haha

Have you ever watched high level women judo/wrestling/mma/boxing ?

Sure they are not on the same level than their top male counterparts but they will RAPE your average grunt.
Ktfo-ed, ippon-ed or subbed.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
JFKWT
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Singapore1442 Posts
November 12 2009 12:55 GMT
#228
On November 12 2009 19:26 Railxp wrote:
Your life, do whatever you want with it. Women are allowed to get themselves killed just as much as men are. By all means go ahead.

I agree with that.
P.S. 1 more post to 666 =p
The calm before the storm / "loli is not a crime, but meganekko is the way to go!"
SlobodanMilosevic
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Serbia7 Posts
November 12 2009 13:19 GMT
#229
12 pages and nobody has posted this yet:

[image loading]


Sorry, but I just had to sign up just to post this
Serbia shall rise again!
oN_Silva
Profile Joined October 2009
197 Posts
November 12 2009 13:35 GMT
#230
i somehow have to quote morrigan from dragon age origin which i play atm.

man always will belief Two things of a woman, 1. that she is weak 2. that she is attracted to him


i think its rather a issue of the man, they should work on their professionalism to handle their teammates just a teammates.

Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 15:17:05
November 12 2009 15:09 GMT
#231
I don't think physical differences should matter as much in this day and age.

Theres the physical tests which both should pass and even if a male soldier that passed them is still stronger than a woman, grunts and such get usually pumped with steroids or get blood doped or get high on extasis or whatever other shit before combat or various other stuff that can bridge the difference a little.

The issue about equality and all that crap about everyone having a right to fight (I wouldn't fight if I was forced to and fuck it) is bigger anyway.

However the main deterrent would be psychological capabilities, and I believe men are genetically more aggressive and colder. And well even for average male grunts, one war is already too many.
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yooh
Profile Joined March 2009
China223 Posts
November 12 2009 15:35 GMT
#232
I dont think boobs belong in trenches..
How about women who get their period and stuff in trenches... ugh..

I don't believe in equality...
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 12 2009 15:45 GMT
#233
On November 13 2009 00:35 yooh wrote:
I dont think boobs belong in trenches..
How about women who get their period and stuff in trenches... ugh..

I don't believe in equality...

Good god.
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-12 15:48:56
November 12 2009 15:48 GMT
#234
I think the emotional attachment argument is fallacious given that the army does everything it can to instill in its recruits a sense of "bonding" and "brotherhood" anyways
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 12 2009 15:53 GMT
#235
I understand both arguments for yes/no, but I'm leaning towards yes.
A3iL3r0n
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States2196 Posts
November 12 2009 16:00 GMT
#236
If she can pass the tests, then great. If not, then you have to fail her. Equal protection should only provide the opportunity to be tested, not guarantee entrance.

If you have a lot of women passing the test, then I think the test is not hard enough. It is only nature, that in general, men are more athletically gifted than women and so the tests should bear that out. Obviously, some women will be able to also pass the hypothetical "more difficult" test, and they should be allowed to join.
My psychiatrist says I have deep-seated Ragneuroses :(
AnWh
Profile Joined April 2004
Sweden220 Posts
November 12 2009 16:19 GMT
#237
On November 12 2009 07:26 CharlieMurphy wrote:
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On November 12 2009 07:25 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Have you seen what some of these Muslim extremists and Pakistani hill tribes do to other men? Anal sex is a form of degradation in that culture and many of the resistance fighters wouldn't blink twice before raping a male POW.

I've got two friends who are special forces and did tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. They have some wtf stories to tell, many of them involving accounts of guys getting anal raped as a form of torture/humiliation.

yea, now imagine how much worse that situation would be for a woman.



I'm pretty sure sexual humiliation feels pretty much the same regardless of gender.


Other than that it's pretty amazing how some people believe, in the year of 2009, that men by nature are born more cold-minded and focused than women. That's like 50 years ago to me.

Women should be allowed to participate. If you pass the physical test you're in. Maybe talk to a shrink as well to make sure these oh so fragile beings have the balls to fire a gun and keep calm in combat.
iloveHieu
Profile Joined November 2007
United States1919 Posts
November 12 2009 16:28 GMT
#238
I've seen so many threads on the internet about this topic jesus. Despite how many fools say women should be allowed it won't happen and there's many good reasons for it. Front line of fire is for men, leave it to them.
Xellos <3
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
November 12 2009 19:39 GMT
#239
LOL. women bleed from the vagine.
NO
cw)minsean(ru
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24779 Posts
November 12 2009 21:16 GMT
#240
On November 13 2009 01:28 iloveHieu wrote:
I've seen so many threads on the internet about this topic jesus. Despite how many fools say women should be allowed it won't happen and there's many good reasons for it. Front line of fire is for men, leave it to them.

The same exact post you made could be used for pretty much every issue ever that women have since gained access to. ex

On November 13 2009 01:28 iloveHieu wrote:
I've seen so many threads on the internet about this topic jesus. Despite how many fools say women should be allowed to vote won't happen and there's many good reasons for it. Politics/voting is for men, leave it to them.


Calling someone a fool without any legit justification is rather foolish, don't you think?
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