[P]Women In The Infantry - Page 16

Castor

United States1 Post

November 14 2009 05:03 GMT

#301

i'm all for equal rights, but this is ridiculous. speaking as an infantryman myself, a woman could not do it. in basic training you might carry 35 40lb rucks, but in real life you're carrying over a thousand rounds with food and water not too mention your vest with plates and the ammo on your vest. that is roughly 130 to 150lbs worth of shit. plus if it's your turn to carry the 28lb 240 then you can just kill yourself, or maybe you'll be lucky enough to carry the radio. also, it's not a ruck march on the side of a road. you get to walk up the side of a mountain. heh i don't think the army would ever be dumb enough to have females in the infantry. another thing is feminine hygiene, a female can not go 2+ weeks without cleaning themselves.. there would be serious issues. i mean if the girl can carry her weight i would have nothing to complain about, but i think that's highly unlikely

iloveHieu

United States1919 Posts

November 14 2009 08:51 GMT

#302

Now Castor is someone with the experience and knows what he's talking about.

Welcome to TL and thank you for serving our country.

TwoToneTerran

United States8841 Posts

November 14 2009 10:33 GMT

#303

That's insane considering many women have passed basic training with flying colors. Almost anyone who's gone through basic training was in a platoon with women in recent times -- Hell my brother (who's been home on medical discharge now for a year and a half) had 3 women in his group, one of which was exceptionally better than most people there. Basic training is far from the obstacle women can't climb.

opsayo

591 Posts

November 14 2009 10:54 GMT

#304

On November 14 2009 08:01 KwarK wrote:

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You're doing the expansion to absurdity straw man. Yes, if you want the army to be as big as it can be then standards don't matter, you accept anyone. Yes, if you want the army to be tiny you accept the very best, who are all men. For armies between those sizes you accept the most fit, of whom the majority are men and a minority are women.

You heard it yourself, even with our current "need as many bodies as we can" mentality, women are still getting by on their double standard and lowered expectations.

But I guess we can all live in a beautiful dream world

FabledIntegral

United States9232 Posts

November 15 2009 22:30 GMT

#305

I don't get it - why are the naysayers continually bringing up genetics in terms of men being better suited? It is IRRELEVANT if they put women up to the same standards. I've just read the last few pages and my god, all the supporters have constantly said that as long as the women can hold up to the same PHYSICAL tests as the men, they should be let in.

If the tests are so rigorous that only 1% of the women that apply make it, then so fucking be it. They aren't advocating something like affirmative action or 50-50 gender ratio. They are saying IF there so happens to be a qualified women, then let her in. If there isn't any qualified women, then don't let any of them in. There is no denying that the MOST qualified women out there for the army is going to perform better than the LEAST qualified man that's in the army.

KwarK

United States42682 Posts

November 16 2009 00:05 GMT

#306

On November 14 2009 14:03 Castor wrote:
i mean if the girl can carry her weight i would have nothing to complain about, but i think that's highly unlikely

That's the key part.
We're not advocating cutting standards or setting targets for women being in the army. We're saying if they can carry their weight there should be no obstacle. And to the people saying women are genetically disabled, the most qualified woman to be in the infantry will be better than the least qualified man who is in the infantry. The average woman won't cut it but there will be some who will.
Basically I'm arguing for manlike freaks not to be held back by their vagina.

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