I'm not trying to be a downer, I'm just saying this is not awesome and is by no means heroic. "if not for the instincts of 18 year old football star.." blah blah american patriot propaganda. See guys! learning to play football and tackling people can save lives!
There was probably a higher chance of the gun accidentally going off then her actually trying to shoot some kids.
On September 04 2009 07:35 kdog3683 wrote: Saracen stop licking after Fanacist's scraps like you're some worm that can't find his own toliet to infest. I see you do this everywhere like you need his approval or some form of equivalent praise. It's disgusting. User was banned for this post.
On September 04 2009 07:34 ahswtini wrote: Yeah, the lengths some attention seekers go to, tackling someone with a loaded gun. Disgraceful.
If you are referring to my post, Don't put words in my mouth. I never said the kid was an attenion whore. All I'm saying is this obviously weak 14 year old girl who is resorting to scaring people with a gun is not very smart or dangerous.
Look at the anatomy of every other school shooting scenario, they plan that shit out, they block exits before hand, they pull out their weapons and unload asap.
This chick is waving it around trying to gain respect and intimidate. The guy just made a standard call taking the chick down when he had a chance.
He probably could have just as easily strolled off the bus with the rest of the kids and the girl woulda just made a scene for a few hours on the bus or some stupid shit.
I mean look how sloppy and casually this girl gets the gun out, loads it , walks around with it limply in her hand, starts making threats instead of actually doing anything.
CM i understand where your coming from, but hey man you gotta give this guy some credit. He evacuated the people on the bus and YOUR assuming that this girl was dumb and all. She did have a gun and all and if he didnt distract her somebody COULD have got killed. Your right we are not psychic and we are assuming that bad shit wouldve happened, but then again what if it did?
On September 04 2009 05:52 Aegraen wrote: A .38 with 5 rounds....She must have been blonde.
Guy still has some balls even though a .38 is the weakest gun imaginable with very little penetrating or stopping power.
You think he knew what kind of a gun she had or even cared? The guy did what 99% of the population would be too scared to do. He deserves more credit then that.
Like I said, I'm not just assuming the best like they are assuming the worst. I'm basing myself off the girl's known motivation, her body language, her age, her lack of planning. All of which was plainly obvious for anyone on the bus.
Sure the guy gets credit for stopping the dumb cunt from wasting more time than she already has but I don't think he saved any lives (except maybe if the gun went off accidentally or some other student scared her into shooting them). So the guy gets credit there, but other than that it's not what it's made out to be.
On September 04 2009 08:20 CharlieMurphy wrote: Like I said, I'm not just assuming the best like they are assuming the worst. I'm basing myself off the girl's known motivation, her body language, her age, her lack of planning. All of which was plainly obvious for anyone on the bus.
Sure the guy gets credit for stopping the dumb cunt from wasting more time than she already has but I don't think he saved any lives (except maybe if the gun went off accidentally or some other student scared her into shooting them). So the guy gets credit there, but other than that it's not what it's made out to be.
On September 04 2009 08:20 CharlieMurphy wrote: Like I said, I'm not just assuming the best like they are assuming the worst. I'm basing myself off the girl's known motivation, her body language, her age, her lack of planning. All of which was plainly obvious for anyone on the bus.
Sure the guy gets credit for stopping the dumb cunt from wasting more time than she already has but I don't think he saved any lives (except maybe if the gun went off accidentally or some other student scared her into shooting them). So the guy gets credit there, but other than that it's not what it's made out to be.
Oh didn't realize you were on that bus.
Yeah i agree, CM if you were on that bus would you think rationally and say fuck this cunt not only is a stupid dumb blonde that has no planning but shes also wasting her fucking time!. Then would you just sit there and be chill and all. I'm not attacking you or anyhing like that CM but im still confused, if someone has a gun whether it be a retarted girl like this or a real hijacker and is stopped by a selfless person, doesnt this person deserve an ultimate praise and reward?
On September 04 2009 07:25 CharlieMurphy wrote: It always annoys the fuck out of me the ridiculous assumptions and bullshit that the people involved and the law enforcement say after the fact. no telling how many lives were saved", yea because she has infinite bullets and is a sharp shooter right? "there would be a lot of sad families if he wasn't there to stop her" fuck you, you don't fucking know that, are you psychic? Did redneck cop class teach you that all black kids are 100% murderers when they have a gun out?
This was a girl, she was young, probably dumb, she probably wouldn't have shot anyone. She probably didn't even know what the fuck she was doing. She most likely just brought the gun with intention of scaring everyone so they wouldn't fuck with her anymore.
This kid is no hero, he's either a dumb jock or just saw a really weak chick and read that she wasn't really gonna hurt anyone from her body language and just tackled her when opportune.
Just as suggested, this is overhyped sensationalized bullshit.
He didn't want her sisters to get shot at which is why he got the girl to focus on him instead, he is also an honour student not a dumb jock, what the fuck is wrong with you? were you on the fucking bus? why are you talking about body language and all that bs? maybe you should become a negotiator or something cause clearly you can tell exactly whether or not someone with a gun is actually gonna use it
On September 04 2009 08:21 writer22816 wrote: lol @ 3.5 gpa
whats funny about 3.5 gpa? Thats good gpa for a football player ;o 3.5 out of 4 that is.
That's a respectable GPA for anyone, unless it's out of 5.
Charlie, I hope you're trolling because I know you aren't that stupid. It's a bit over the top in the article, and the "no telling how many lives were saved" is pretty ridiculous, because the maximum that could have been lost was 5, unless the .38 bullet did some really tricky shit on it's way out, which it probably wouldn't have gone out anyway since it's not a very powerful gun, but I digress.
On September 04 2009 07:25 CharlieMurphy wrote: It always annoys the fuck out of me the ridiculous assumptions and bullshit that the people involved and the law enforcement say after the fact. no telling how many lives were saved", yea because she has infinite bullets and is a sharp shooter right? "there would be a lot of sad families if he wasn't there to stop her" fuck you, you don't fucking know that, are you psychic? Did redneck cop class teach you that all black kids are 100% murderers when they have a gun out?
This was a girl, she was young, probably dumb, she probably wouldn't have shot anyone. She probably didn't even know what the fuck she was doing. She most likely just brought the gun with intention of scaring everyone so they wouldn't fuck with her anymore.
This kid is no hero, he's either a dumb jock or just saw a really weak chick and read that she wasn't really gonna hurt anyone from her body language and just tackled her when opportune.
Just as suggested, this is overhyped sensationalized bullshit.
Really? Are you really trying to make this a racial issue? Generally speaking, whenever anyone pulls a gun out and starts to act aggressive with it, and point it at people, it's because they plan to hurt people. She may not have shot anyone, and she was absolutely stupid. But just because she's stupid doesn't mean she absolutely wouldn't have shot anyone. There are as many more criminals that don't plan things out well and get caught than there are criminals that do plan things out and "succeed."
In fact, you're the only one trying to be psychic here, because you're making assumptions that cannot possibly be made out of the story we have. Which is: girl loads gun, girl points gun at others and acts aggressive (ie, girl is angry). In which part of that do you get "probably wants to scare people." You're taking away from the situation. They over sensationalize the situation, I think we can all agree there, but you're taking it way too lightly.
And suppose you're right and she was just trying to scare people. What if she accidentally pulled the trigger? Someone still could have been shot and injured (though it's unlikely they would have died from such a small round, unless it hit a vital organ), which makes the situation very dangerous. Regardless of her intent, the situation is still dangerous. And, going by the article, the kid that tackled her is not a weapons expert, so he probably didn't know if it was a .38, or a .45, he just tried to stop her.
All that said, the writer needs to be fired:
This one wasn’t in the playbook. So, when a 14-year-old girl waved a loaded gun on a Mississippi school bus, high school quarterback Kaleb Eulls called his own play — and made a life-saving tackle for the record books.
One of the worst opening paragraphs I have ever seen. Seriously, we all get that he was a football player, but do you have to make lame football puns (or whatever, I can't think of the right word)? That line disgusts me. I can't believe that person is a paid journalist. Looks like some trash that was written by a high school kid. I almost didn't read the article because of that. Terrible attempt to pull in the audience. That line just screams "I'm a fucking moron, and you shouldn't read my horrible writing."