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Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 23 2009 15:29 GMT
#181
On June 23 2009 13:40 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2009 13:30 Roffles wrote:
It seems weak on paper, as the drop-off after Blake Griffin is just ridiculous.

In big men it might be (although there's some pretty underrated bigs out there), but I think the guards will be very strong.


The guards are nice, but none of them really stand out in my opinion. We'll see though.
God Bless
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
June 23 2009 15:45 GMT
#182
On June 23 2009 23:18 Jibba wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AtjIoxFEd_j6xIbCTQncRi05nYcB?slug=aw-celticspistons062209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Holy fucking shit. I'm so torn on this. I figured either Tay or Rip would be gone within the next year anyways, and Rondo was really superb in the playoffs, but still... I think I'm just in shock. Basically you get Rondo and a shit ton of cap space (enough to make max offers to probably 2 stars) in 2010 since Allen's contract is done. It's probably playing with fire though.


abso fucking lutely not.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
72AND10
Profile Joined January 2009
United States93 Posts
June 23 2009 16:22 GMT
#183
On June 23 2009 10:42 Xeris wrote:
were near the top =D


Thanks for the fix!

With regards to the draft, it's definitely going to be pretty weak this year. Even Blake Griffin isn't that great when comparing him to top 5 draft choices from previous years; and still defintiely needs development. He has a lot of potential upside, but we all know that there are no guarantees. The interesting part about the draft is the potential trades and the fact that theres much room for shuffling after Griffin is picked.

The fact that this draft is so guard (PG / combo guards) heavy when compared to previous years is not a good sign. Again, don't expect these guards to come into their respective team and make an immediate impact. I'm sure a couple will turn into a solid contributors down the line and a couple MIGHT even become all-stars. But at this point, smaller guards are a piece in the bigger puzzle of a championship. Rarely are they franchise players.

On a sidenote, has the draft always been held on a weekday at 7 p.m. eastern?
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 23 2009 17:20 GMT
#184
On June 23 2009 23:18 Jibba wrote:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AtjIoxFEd_j6xIbCTQncRi05nYcB?slug=aw-celticspistons062209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

Holy fucking shit. I'm so torn on this. I figured either Tay or Rip would be gone within the next year anyways, and Rondo was really superb in the playoffs, but still... I think I'm just in shock. Basically you get Rondo and a shit ton of cap space (enough to make max offers to probably 2 stars) in 2010 since Allen's contract is done. It's probably playing with fire though.



Please don't let this happen
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
June 23 2009 17:24 GMT
#185
You know what I just realized would be a sick combo? Rondo and Lebron.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 23 2009 17:40 GMT
#186
On June 24 2009 02:24 shmay wrote:
You know what I just realized would be a sick combo? Rondo and Lebron.



Haha why is that?
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 17:46:43
June 23 2009 17:46 GMT
#187
holy shit
Richard Jefferson acquired by the spurs for bowen, kurt thomas, and oberto
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4281291
72AND10
Profile Joined January 2009
United States93 Posts
June 23 2009 17:49 GMT
#188
On June 24 2009 02:24 shmay wrote:
You know what I just realized would be a sick combo? Rondo and Lebron.


Enlighten us! :D
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 23 2009 17:51 GMT
#189
On June 24 2009 02:46 KOFgokuon wrote:
holy shit
Richard Jefferson acquired by the spurs for bowen, kurt thomas, and oberto
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4281291


What the fuck? Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Jefferson. That's a pretty sick combo right there. Although they have absolutely no depth at all after this trade.
God Bless
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
June 23 2009 18:15 GMT
#190
On June 24 2009 02:24 shmay wrote:
You know what I just realized would be a sick combo? Rondo and Lebron.


PG and SF who can't shoot well from the perimeter? You better have a SG and PF who can both shoot 3's to spread the floor or opponents would just pack the paint on defense.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
June 23 2009 18:15 GMT
#191
On June 24 2009 02:51 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 02:46 KOFgokuon wrote:
holy shit
Richard Jefferson acquired by the spurs for bowen, kurt thomas, and oberto
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4281291


What the fuck? Duncan, Ginobili, Parker, Jefferson. That's a pretty sick combo right there. Although they have absolutely no depth at all after this trade.


Bowen, though a good defender, doesn't help offensively at all; barely spreads the Spur's offense or their opponent's defense. Oberto and Thomas didn't prove much offensively either, though they did give Duncan some time to rest on the bench. Isn't Duncan getting alittle old and tired? Gregg Popovich had to let him rest some games and take time off of practice. I hope he can come back for a couple of more years; his shooting is really good, especially his bank shot, it's amazing


Wow, what a steal by the Spurs. So basically the Bucks are gonna suck for another year right?

I feel bad for players that are caught in the trade; they have to pack up all their junk and move away to a new city. Good thing it's off-season though.

KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
June 23 2009 18:18 GMT
#192
that happens with every trade, they're professionals making millions of dollars, they get no pity from me.

the bucks might not even keep bowen, they can cut him because his contract isn't guaranteed, so if the spurs really want him back they can still re-sign him for cheap. They still have who, bonner and drew gooden? Yeah they need some big men help for sure
Centric
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1989 Posts
June 23 2009 18:22 GMT
#193
I don't trust Blake Griffin. White men don't do well as lottery picks. Morrison, Bargnani, Darko...
Super serious.
shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
June 23 2009 18:25 GMT
#194
On June 24 2009 02:40 il0seonpurpose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2009 02:24 shmay wrote:
You know what I just realized would be a sick combo? Rondo and Lebron.



Haha why is that?


Work with me here. They're both young, very ambitious, pretty team-oriented, smart, cocky players. Rondo may be a dick, but that dude plays with a tenacity few players have matched. Combine that with Lebron's sheer athleticism (and a few other choice role players), and you've got one of the scariest defenses ever. Also, they are both great passers, and thus could develop a more flashy stockton and malone type combo. I could just see them just developing this ridiculous swagger as the two youngins obliterate teams left and right.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 23 2009 18:31 GMT
#195
Rondo sucks and has no shot. Don't compare him to John Stockton until he ever develops some semblance of an outside shot.
God Bless
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
June 23 2009 18:41 GMT
#196
On June 24 2009 03:25 shmay wrote:Work with me here. They're both young, very ambitious, pretty team-oriented, smart, cocky players. Rondo may be a dick, but that dude plays with a tenacity few players have matched. Combine that with Lebron's sheer athleticism (and a few other choice role players), and you've got one of the scariest defenses ever. Also, they are both great passers, and thus could develop a more flashy stockton and malone type combo. I could just see them just developing this ridiculous swagger as the two youngins obliterate teams left and right.


No.... just no. Lebron makes most of what Rondo brings to the table completely redundant. The only benefits they'd get from Rondo are defense and rebounding, but they'd also end up with a PG who can't spread defenses and will allow teams to pack the paint and/or double Lebron with impunity.
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shmay
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States1091 Posts
June 23 2009 18:42 GMT
#197
Yeah, you're probably right. Lebron needs a good sidekick though!
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-23 18:49:50
June 23 2009 18:46 GMT
#198
On June 24 2009 03:42 shmay wrote:
Yeah, you're probably right. Lebron needs a good sidekick though!



Haha, come on, stay with your thoughts!

Mo Williams can spread their offense though, what's wrong with him?

If Rondo can develop his jump shot and hook shot, he will be beast. I hear the problem is that his hands are too big so his shooting is just retarded looking.

And can anyone give some links or anything pertaining to Rondo being a jerk?

Btw he wrote on my myspace once, it was epic
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
June 23 2009 18:50 GMT
#199
On June 24 2009 03:31 Roffles wrote:
Rondo sucks and has no shot. Don't compare him to John Stockton until he ever develops some semblance of an outside shot.


rondo certainly doesn't suck, but he has no shot that's true
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 23 2009 19:23 GMT
#200
Roffles why u hate Rondo so much yo?!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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