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Reborn8u

United States1761 Posts

December 23 2011 07:05 GMT

#18421

On December 23 2011 15:05 KwarK wrote:
Some guy randomly contacted Serg saying "would you like to bail out a pos in Tamo" or something along those lines. I was FCing an incursion fleet and he invited me to the convo. We took a look and saw it was QS bashing it so I told them we'd kill the QS fleet. They asked if we wanted to fly with them and do it and I politely declined. They said they'd come over 20jumps for PvP but I refused to budge. They then invited the guy whose pos it was to the conversation, some guy from goonswarm. He claimed that he too had a defence fleet coming.

Now, we're hostile to both QS and goonfleet and I felt very little obligation to help this random guy. The way I see it, it's on him to check if the guy he's giving fleet intel to is hostile to his fleet, if they make the mistake of contacting The Hatchery and saying "a goonswarm pos is reinforced and dying next to you" then that's their fault and I shouldn't feel bad. Anyway, we drove off the QS fleet and I informed them that their pos was now safe from QS but unfortunately we were now killing it. They felt confused and betrayed but our position remained the same, anti-QS and anti-goonfleet, I just used evasive words like "we'll kill the QS fleet" instead of "we'll defend the pos". He just gave intel out to random strangers.

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[ 2011.12.23 01:11:24 ] Sergeant RL3 > invite the friend who owns the pos
[ 2011.12.23 01:11:25 ] Sergeant RL3 > to this
[ 2011.12.23 01:12:18 ] Blood ofGODS > i invited them
[ 2011.12.23 01:12:26 ] Wolfduke > yo
[ 2011.12.23 01:12:29 ] Sergeant RL3 > this is a goon pos?
[ 2011.12.23 01:12:36 ] Wolfduke > snowman has gone for food atm
[ 2011.12.23 01:12:42 ] Blood ofGODS > kay
[ 2011.12.23 01:12:50 ] Wolfduke > wi/goon yes
[ 2011.12.23 01:14:12 ] Blood ofGODS > will you still be able to help?
[ 2011.12.23 01:14:38 ] Blood ofGODS > our guys know pvp, its not like we're gonna be holding you guys up
[ 2011.12.23 01:17:21 ] Blood ofGODS > you there? >.>
[ 2011.12.23 01:17:34 ] Wrathful Penguins > yeah
[ 2011.12.23 01:17:38 ] Wrathful Penguins > we're considering the situation
[ 2011.12.23 01:17:47 ] Blood ofGODS > mkay
[ 2011.12.23 01:18:02 ] Wrathful Penguins > we're gonna hit the pos bashers
[ 2011.12.23 01:18:05 ] Wrathful Penguins > it's local and we know them
[ 2011.12.23 01:18:42 ] Blood ofGODS > we got about 5 guys that have come 20jumps for this
[ 2011.12.23 01:18:50 ] Blood ofGODS > any chance we can hop in?
[ 2011.12.23 01:19:08 ] Blood ofGODS > no need to blue, and it's only 1 engagement
[ 2011.12.23 01:24:23 ] Wrathful Penguins > their gang has been smashed
[ 2011.12.23 01:25:13 ] snowman888 > tactical bm on contract to o Blood ofGODS
[ 2011.12.23 01:25:29 ] snowman888 > tower bm
[ 2011.12.23 01:25:36 ] snowman888 > is s. P VI M 13
[ 2011.12.23 01:25:39 ] Blood ofGODS > aww mkay
[ 2011.12.23 01:25:40 ] Blood ofGODS > =/
[ 2011.12.23 01:25:46 ] snowman888 > gotta run guys
[ 2011.12.23 01:25:52 ] snowman888 > o7
[ 2011.12.23 01:27:29 ] Blood ofGODS > link KMs
[ 2011.12.23 01:28:15 ] Wrathful Penguins > http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11962366
[ 2011.12.23 01:28:17 ] Wrathful Penguins > all we got
[ 2011.12.23 01:28:20 ] Wrathful Penguins > was only a small gang
[ 2011.12.23 01:28:21 ] Wrathful Penguins > it ran
[ 2011.12.23 01:29:56 ] Wrathful Penguins > so...
[ 2011.12.23 01:30:01 ] Wrathful Penguins > we're shooting the pos now
[ 2011.12.23 01:30:04 ] Wrathful Penguins > basically
[ 2011.12.23 01:30:11 ] Wolfduke > lol bad idea bud
[ 2011.12.23 01:30:19 ] Wolfduke > with that km we know which corps to target
[ 2011.12.23 01:30:23 ] Wrathful Penguins > lol
[ 2011.12.23 01:30:24 ] Wrathful Penguins > LOL
[ 2011.12.23 01:30:25 ] Wrathful Penguins > :D
[ 2011.12.23 01:31:06 ] Wrathful Penguins > in the words of myself in a few seconds
[ 2011.12.23 01:31:09 ] Wrathful Penguins > "come at me bro"
[ 2011.12.23 01:31:09 ] Blood ofGODS > what gives?
[ 2011.12.23 01:31:31 ] Wrathful Penguins > was a goon pos, we're hostile to goons
[ 2011.12.23 01:31:33 ] Wolfduke > don't worry because its not just me you are "fucking over"
[ 2011.12.23 01:31:40 ] Wrathful Penguins > we're also hostile to the guys who were sieging it
[ 2011.12.23 01:31:49 ] Wrathful Penguins > so we came here, killed them, now shooting pos
[ 2011.12.23 01:31:51 ] Wolfduke > Yea, nulli secunda are sore that we kicked their asses "shrugs"
[ 2011.12.23 01:32:04 ] Sergeant RL3 > lol?
[ 2011.12.23 01:32:28 ] Wrathful Penguins > er
[ 2011.12.23 01:32:35 ] Wrathful Penguins > we're not nulli secunda
[ 2011.12.23 01:32:39 ] Wrathful Penguins > we're hatchery?
[ 2011.12.23 01:32:40 ] Wolfduke > sorry, former
[ 2011.12.23 01:32:40 ] Sergeant RL3 > what does nulli secunda have to do with anything lol
[ 2011.12.23 01:32:50 ] Sergeant RL3 > are you talking about me lol
[ 2011.12.23 01:33:20 ] Wrathful Penguins > look us up bro
[ 2011.12.23 01:33:22 ] Wrathful Penguins > then go home
[ 2011.12.23 01:33:27 ] Wrathful Penguins > this isn't going to end well for you
[ 2011.12.23 01:33:27 ] Wolfduke > rofl
[ 2011.12.23 01:33:37 ] Wolfduke > sorry are you supposed to be some big awesome leet pvp guys/
[ 2011.12.23 01:33:38 ] Wolfduke > no thanks
[ 2011.12.23 01:34:15 ] Wolfduke > isnt going to end well? how so
[ 2011.12.23 01:37:11 ] Wrathful Penguins > we fight goons all day everyday
[ 2011.12.23 01:37:13 ] Wrathful Penguins > and we never lose
[ 2011.12.23 01:37:24 ] Wolfduke > rofl of course you do
[ 2011.12.23 01:37:33 ] Wolfduke > explains why I've never heard of you
[ 2011.12.23 01:38:20 ] Wrathful Penguins > http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=10615676
[ 2011.12.23 01:38:25 ] Wrathful Penguins > all day everyday hatchery does this to you
[ 2011.12.23 01:38:44 ] Wolfduke > TNT? nice try
[ 2011.12.23 01:39:19 ] Wrathful Penguins > does it not count when we kill your blues at the same time?
[ 2011.12.23 01:39:36 ] Wolfduke > not really :/
[ 2011.12.23 01:40:10 ] Wrathful Penguins > anyway
[ 2011.12.23 01:40:24 ] Wrathful Penguins > Blood ofGODS, still bringing a fleet?

Eventually the fleet arrived, a drake, a talos, an oracle, a pest, a hound, a domi and three guardians. After extensive scouting they spiked local and warped their tackle armourpest to my machariel at zero. Unfortunately as it was landing I pressed the mwd button and then I wasn't in scramweb range when it locked me. The remaining members landed but it didn't go so well.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_related&kll_id=11963066

He explained what happened in broadside, much to our amusement. Basically he got unlucky that his scramweb armourpest wasn't the ideal fast tackle ship. He then got unlucky that his drake had bad armour resists and that his three guardians couldn't hold up a pest. After he unluckily warped his fleet in he wasn't able to luckily get them out. We then killed the pos, grabbed the contents and went back to incursioning. First sov, then killing goon pos, what happened to us.

Gem from the chat beforehand.

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Wow, Kwark you are the best. This guy invites enemies of his alliance (hatchery) to defend his POS. So you take the easy kills on defense and then kill his POS. Then he threatens the hatchery, so you show the guy a kill mail of a 5 man hatchery fleet SMASHING a 14 man Goonfleet with 0 losses for hatch. Then you ask him if he is still bringing his fleet, and he obliges. So you proceed to kill his 12 man fleet with 0 losses.

God, I love this corp. Hatch life.

"COME AT ME BRO" -Kwark

DefMatrixUltra

Canada1992 Posts

December 23 2011 07:39 GMT

#18422

That's not quite the whole story.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11962425

That guy thought that sitting 180km off the action in his pod would be a good idea. He didn't want those +4s anyway.

http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11962813

This gentleman decided that the best course of action to get eyes (since the pod was killed) would be to warp to a slightly different location roughly the same distance away. Unfortunately his plan did not work out either as he warped onto grid uncloaked and proceeded to afk.

nagual

Ukraine70 Posts

December 23 2011 10:36 GMT

#18423

Hi guys. Im sorry if Im asking this in the wrong topic, but I couldnt find other Eve-related one. So, the questuon is, does anyone have a spare 60 day trial key? If yes I would like to get one, ty

KwarK

United States44191 Posts

December 23 2011 12:33 GMT

#18424

On December 23 2011 19:36 nagual wrote:
Hi guys. Im sorry if Im asking this in the wrong topic, but I couldnt find other Eve-related one. So, the questuon is, does anyone have a spare 60 day trial key? If yes I would like to get one, ty

I believe the 60 day trial is massively inferior to the 21 + mentor approach whereby the mentor helps the new guy get the isk to subscribe and pays for 2/3 or whatever of his first plex. You see once a guy on a 21 day trial gets the isk to subscribe his account then the guy who gave him a 21 gets a plex back. This means that we're willing to advance most of the cost of the plex to you. In effect the 21 day trial is a 51 day trial with a mentor while the 60 day trial is 60 days without. The difference between learning the game for yourself and our expertise is more than 9 days and neither approach should cost you real money.

If you still want a 60 day trial I will send you one but I firmly believe the 21+30 day approach is superior.

On an unrelated note, not only does ueberlisk kill their link alt, he also gets all the faction mods, which also increase in value 7x more than what the killboard claims.
http://teamliquid.killmail.org/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11964382

SilentchiLL

Germany1405 Posts

December 23 2011 13:42 GMT

#18425

Gem from the chat beforehand.

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Yeah I watched the dark Knight a few days ago :D.

~Lyk

Reborn8u

United States1761 Posts

December 23 2011 14:33 GMT

#18426

On December 23 2011 22:42 SilentchiLL wrote:

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Gem from the chat beforehand.

[ 2011.12.23 01:14:38 ] Blood ofGODS > our guys know pvp, its not like we're gonna be holding you guys up

Yeah I watched the dark Knight a few days ago :D.

~Lyk

Kwark is like that little shithead who eggs houses on Halloween......... Except when you open the door and start yelling at him he slaps you in the face, kicks you in the nuts, and stares you straight in the eye while taking a dump on your doorstep. Then he picks you up and pile drives you into his dump, lights the house on fire, and takes your willing daughter home with him. When the police show up he steals their car and flips you the bird while he speeds off. Oh, and the day before Halloween he left a note on your door warning you of his intentions.

SilentchiLL

Germany1405 Posts

December 23 2011 15:01 GMT

#18427

On December 23 2011 23:33 Reborn8u wrote:

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On December 23 2011 22:42 SilentchiLL wrote:

Gem from the chat beforehand.

[ 2011.12.23 01:14:38 ] Blood ofGODS > our guys know pvp, its not like we're gonna be holding you guys up

Yeah I watched the dark Knight a few days ago :D.

~Lyk

Wanted to write the same first, but the pic was too small

hagon

United Kingdom556 Posts

December 23 2011 16:16 GMT

#18428

On December 23 2011 21:33 KwarK wrote:
On an unrelated note, not only does ueberlisk kill their link alt, he also gets all the faction mods, which also increase in value 7x more than what the killboard claims.

its pretty rare i am a smug bastard, but faction co-proc's have spiked hard since t2 links came on the market. who'd have thought that.

KwarK

United States44191 Posts

December 23 2011 17:51 GMT

#18429

On December 24 2011 01:16 hagon wrote:

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its pretty rare i am a smug bastard, but faction co-proc's have spiked hard since t2 links came on the market. who'd have thought that.

And someone has 40 of them.

Mandini

United States1717 Posts

December 23 2011 20:40 GMT

#18430

Wow, I don't log on for a day and everyone is "O em gee, Kwark you are sooooooooooo amazing."

I can't let this happen, I need to be online to bring up certain rorquals and certain tengus and certain machariels and vargurs and certain faction fit drakes and certain giant thrasher blobs and certain "align sun warp penguins at 0 it will be fine."

Body_Shield

Canada3368 Posts

December 24 2011 00:47 GMT

#18431

On Every Fucking Day, Kwark wrote:
it will be fine."