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Nyvis
Profile Joined November 2012
France284 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 07:52:13
January 31 2013 07:51 GMT
#28761
Hello again. I'm trying to get an estimation on some alt characters I'm willing to sell. I've seen some people in the thread talk about characters trading... Could you give me a rough idea of their price? They're both PI alts, but the first one have some other skills which can be useful.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Yoko_Hoshi (can train CC upgrade and interplanetary consolidation 5 easily, I'd like to know the value with it done)
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Hela_Inarhki


Thank you!
MChrome
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands201 Posts
January 31 2013 11:25 GMT
#28762
Greetings from Evolution 0-o
If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
January 31 2013 11:47 GMT
#28763
On January 31 2013 14:13 unsniped wrote:
SHIELD MOVIE NIGHT SATADAY!

ALRIGHT, BUT WHY DO YOU WANT TO TELL ME SO BAD
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 31 2013 11:48 GMT
#28764
ALSO WHAT IS THE MOVIE?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43469 Posts
January 31 2013 14:50 GMT
#28765
Those interested in doing the tough mudder post here.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=200020
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19189 Posts
January 31 2013 15:18 GMT
#28766
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/17mr8o/a_bloody_decent_proposal_ccp_run_a_plex_for_good/
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 15:22:07
January 31 2013 15:20 GMT
#28767
On January 31 2013 16:51 Nyvis wrote:
Hello again. I'm trying to get an estimation on some alt characters I'm willing to sell. I've seen some people in the thread talk about characters trading... Could you give me a rough idea of their price? They're both PI alts, but the first one have some other skills which can be useful.

Show nested quote +
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Yoko_Hoshi (can train CC upgrade and interplanetary consolidation 5 easily, I'd like to know the value with it done)
http://eveboard.com/pilot/Hela_Inarhki


Thank you!

Those PI toons are probably worth ~1.6-2.0 bil each when you train the first toon to the same PI skills as the second.
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Valenius
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
January 31 2013 15:22 GMT
#28768
Good luck to you guys doing the Tough Mudder stuff!
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
January 31 2013 15:56 GMT
#28769
On January 31 2013 11:10 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 09:04 Pufftrees wrote:
If you guys ever in the Phoenix area for ToughMudder just let me know, I just bought a 5 bedroom house so there's room. The entire house is clouded over in medical tree smoke though and that won't change for a guest lol.

House market good?

It's recovering here in the desert but I wouldn't be surprised if entire US market crashes. Good luck to you guys, I struggle to run a half mile
Chance favors the prepared mind.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43469 Posts
January 31 2013 16:07 GMT
#28770
Sigh, someone with a Reddit tell the fools replying that many eve rich individuals are poor irl which is the beauty of plex for good. Saying why not just donate dollars misses the point somewhat.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3368 Posts
January 31 2013 16:08 GMT
#28771
On February 01 2013 00:56 Pufftrees wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2013 11:10 Body_Shield wrote:
On January 31 2013 09:04 Pufftrees wrote:
If you guys ever in the Phoenix area for ToughMudder just let me know, I just bought a 5 bedroom house so there's room. The entire house is clouded over in medical tree smoke though and that won't change for a guest lol.

House market good?

It's recovering here in the desert but I wouldn't be surprised if entire US market crashes. Good luck to you guys, I struggle to run a half mile

Maybe it's the smoking
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
January 31 2013 16:48 GMT
#28772
On February 01 2013 01:07 KwarK wrote:
Sigh, someone with a Reddit tell the fools replying that many eve rich individuals are poor irl which is the beauty of plex for good. Saying why not just donate dollars misses the point somewhat.

the dumb is strong with those redditors.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43469 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 17:25:03
January 31 2013 17:14 GMT
#28773
Also if we assume CCP makes a profit on the difference between the server/staff overheads of running eve and the price of a plex then refunding thousands of plex at retail price does represent a pretty huge loss of profit for them. If a lot of those plex would not otherwise have been bought or if extra plex purchases result from the destruction of the plex removed from the game then that negates some of the impact but it is never a profitable choice for CCP.

Furthermore we play eve, we like CCP, why the fuck are we upset that they might benefit from our charity drive? Learn to logic.

Someone who can post on reddit respond as follows to
1) People donate PLEX to charity, removing those PLEX from the market

2) PLEX prices go up (supply is down, demand stays the same)

3) More people buy PLEX since the rising ISK value makes it "worth it" to convert dollars to ISK

4) ????????

5) CCP PROFIT


For 5 to result from 3 there needs to be a difference between the price CCP sell the PLEX for and the cost of providing the service (staff/server overheads etc) which we would know as profit. There almost certainly is as CCP isn't bankrupt. What this means is that if they refund thousands of PLEX purchases at retail price and give all the money to charity then while this appears a net neutral to the consumer (plex destroyed but CCP no longer have to honour the service represented by the PLEX) it is actually a loss of whatever profit CCP make on PLEX. Imagine if everyone took everything they bought from a shop back to the shop and demanded a refund all at once, even if all the stuff was in mint condition going "what are you complaining about, you still have all the stuff" misses the point, the shop has lost every bit of profit it already had.

Now in this case, as was argued by you, demand for PLEX and subs is fairly static. What this means is that if you take a lot of PLEX out of the game then people will still need to PLEX so the price will rise causing additional PLEX sales until it again stabilises at the point where demand is met which will be roughly exactly the amount it is now because demand hasn't changed. To return to the store example, imagine the store has sold a thousand pairs of trousers (pants) at $10 profit per unit. If everyone asks the store to refund their trousers then the store is down exactly $10,000. If everyone then realises their legs are cold and goes out and buys another pair of trousers from the same store then the store is up exactly $0, despite having a thousand additional sales.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
michaelthe
Profile Joined February 2010
United States359 Posts
January 31 2013 17:25 GMT
#28774
Good luck getting this started guys.
And damn, you guys are more space-rich than I thought.
Pufftrees
Profile Joined March 2009
2449 Posts
January 31 2013 18:45 GMT
#28775
On February 01 2013 01:48 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2013 01:07 KwarK wrote:
Sigh, someone with a Reddit tell the fools replying that many eve rich individuals are poor irl which is the beauty of plex for good. Saying why not just donate dollars misses the point somewhat.

the dumb is strong with those redditors.

I refuse to ever visit that site, so far so good
Chance favors the prepared mind.
Skibat
Profile Joined June 2011
Poland161 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-31 19:00:29
January 31 2013 18:59 GMT
#28776
Puff what part of Phoenix, Goodyear here
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
January 31 2013 19:32 GMT
#28777
On February 01 2013 02:25 michaelthe wrote:
Good luck getting this started guys.
And damn, you guys are more space-rich than I thought.


Kwark can never be rich enough.
Johnny Business
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1251 Posts
January 31 2013 23:30 GMT
#28778
I will lead a Shield battery roam tomorrow (friday) at EU tz (19:00 eve).
Serious Business
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
January 31 2013 23:36 GMT
#28779
Assuming I can actually get eve to update, I'll be there.
SayGen
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1209 Posts
February 01 2013 03:18 GMT
#28780
On February 01 2013 08:30 Johnny Business wrote:
I will lead a Shield battery roam tomorrow (friday) at EU tz (19:00 eve).


Will try to make it in time. will be close-- Should get off earlyish tomorrow.
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