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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44401 Posts
August 08 2012 10:30 GMT
#24341
On August 08 2012 08:54 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 08:45 Lysenko wrote:
I think someone recommended HSM 5 to me because of my specific skill circumstances, including having 18 million SP and most of the corp required skills including engineering, electronics, nav to 5. I wasn't thinking when I posted that, obviously.

HSM 5 is very good for things like the Zealot, which is outclassed by things like the Oracle.

The oracle absolutely loves HSM V. You need seriously good capacitor skills (CB V, HSM V, EM V, ESO V) to fly oracle.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Mysticus
Profile Joined April 2011
298 Posts
August 08 2012 10:56 GMT
#24342
On August 08 2012 17:55 rob.au wrote:
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On August 08 2012 17:44 Firebolt145 wrote:
For what, tackling or 1v1 frigate pvp?

I just meant in general, when would you rather have a merlin vs having a rifter? I'm pretty newbie though so if this question makes no sense and I had to specify it would be for tackling.



Merlin outclasses in virtually every department.

I'd argue that Rifters are better only in certain circumstances (e.g. when you are being neuted but still are a needed DPS force on the field or when speed is absolutely the most important stat).

Rifters are slightly faster and don't need cap for their guns. They don't have the EHP or raw DPS potential of their merlin bros, and they can't fit a shield tank (shield tanks allow for the greatest possible speed and maneuverability) with the tackling trifecta (web, scram, MWD).

If you need to pick one pick the merlin, hands down.
DiracMonopole
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1555 Posts
August 08 2012 11:35 GMT
#24343
On August 08 2012 18:11 419 wrote:
that is one hella close 1v1 o.O


I have only caldari frigate 4, but yeah. My guns burnt out with the killing blow
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44401 Posts
August 08 2012 11:44 GMT
#24344
Regular PvP is resuming in under a week now. You guys have had like 3 weeks off, I expect all the new skills I demanded in the corp bulletins to be trained when I return. I'm gonna turn harbingers into zealots and it's gonna be awesome.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
August 08 2012 12:04 GMT
#24345
On August 08 2012 20:44 KwarK wrote:
Regular PvP is resuming in under a week now. You guys have had like 3 weeks off, I expect all the new skills I demanded in the corp bulletins to be trained when I return. I'm gonna turn harbingers into zealots and it's gonna be awesome.


*Still hasn't trained Amarr frigate*
Saturio
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands37 Posts
August 08 2012 12:10 GMT
#24346
On August 08 2012 20:44 KwarK wrote:
Regular PvP is resuming in under a week now. You guys have had like 3 weeks off, I expect all the new skills I demanded in the corp bulletins to be trained when I return. I'm gonna turn harbingers into zealots and it's gonna be awesome.


can't wait to get started, seems like I've been online at all the wrong times now.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
August 08 2012 12:24 GMT
#24347
On August 08 2012 20:44 KwarK wrote:
Regular PvP is resuming in under a week now. You guys have had like 3 weeks off, I expect all the new skills I demanded in the corp bulletins to be trained when I return. I'm gonna turn harbingers into zealots and it's gonna be awesome.

Oops. Maybe i should start training amarr cruiser.
kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-08 12:37:47
August 08 2012 12:36 GMT
#24348
EDIT: Nevermind I'm stupid
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
August 08 2012 12:42 GMT
#24349
What times do you plan to be doing regular PvP, and do you have room for a newbie with a tackler frigate?
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
Ueberlisk
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland455 Posts
August 08 2012 12:50 GMT
#24350
On August 08 2012 21:42 Salivanth wrote:
What times do you plan to be doing regular PvP, and do you have room for a newbie with a tackler frigate?


considering it's kwark, i'd say all timezones. and i assume there is always room for fleet fit tackle frigs.
I got honor. - Johnny Business
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
August 08 2012 12:53 GMT
#24351
New Patch! Is it any good?

Thanks Mandini and Tofucake for helping me out last night @_@ I'll be on late tonight too!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
August 08 2012 12:56 GMT
#24352
On August 08 2012 21:50 Ueberlisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:42 Salivanth wrote:
What times do you plan to be doing regular PvP, and do you have room for a newbie with a tackler frigate?


considering it's kwark, i'd say all timezones. and i assume there is always room for fleet fit tackle frigs.


Sweet. My mentor's already told me how to fit one, and "all timezones" probably includes my timezones
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
August 08 2012 13:02 GMT
#24353
On August 08 2012 21:56 Salivanth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 21:50 Ueberlisk wrote:
On August 08 2012 21:42 Salivanth wrote:
What times do you plan to be doing regular PvP, and do you have room for a newbie with a tackler frigate?


considering it's kwark, i'd say all timezones. and i assume there is always room for fleet fit tackle frigs.


Sweet. My mentor's already told me how to fit one, and "all timezones" probably includes my timezones


From past experience (not sure if still true) most pvp roams were at around 1-5am Western Australia times. So quite damn late.
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
August 08 2012 13:12 GMT
#24354
I actually hope this is true! I'm a night owl. 1-5 am Western Australia is 11 pm - 3 am where I live in eastern Australia, which would actually be an excellent time for me to play.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
chaokel
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia535 Posts
August 08 2012 13:37 GMT
#24355
On August 08 2012 22:12 Salivanth wrote:
I actually hope this is true! I'm a night owl. 1-5 am Western Australia is 11 pm - 3 am where I live in eastern Australia, which would actually be an excellent time for me to play.


Uhh nope its 3-7 afaik. You guys have always been 2hours ahead.
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
August 08 2012 14:30 GMT
#24356
Crap, you're right. How'd I get that mixed up? Oh well, I can manage 3-6 most likely. Not an ideal time, but far from the worst possible.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
August 08 2012 14:49 GMT
#24357
On August 08 2012 20:44 KwarK wrote:
Regular PvP is resuming in under a week now. You guys have had like 3 weeks off, I expect all the new skills I demanded in the corp bulletins to be trained when I return. I'm gonna turn harbingers into zealots and it's gonna be awesome.

This will be fun to observe.
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Shootemup.
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1044 Posts
August 08 2012 14:58 GMT
#24358
On August 08 2012 20:44 KwarK wrote:
Regular PvP is resuming in under a week now. You guys have had like 3 weeks off, I expect all the new skills I demanded in the corp bulletins to be trained when I return. I'm gonna turn harbingers into zealots and it's gonna be awesome.


Sometimes I wish I had gunneries instead of missiles
"Dirty Timber Picker" Mity Teem Larquad. "I am a baddie and tango is a smartiepants." -KwarK "When you said you didn't play Invoker I thought you were just being modest"
Lysenko
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Iceland2128 Posts
August 08 2012 15:07 GMT
#24359
Awesome, 1-5 am Western Australia time is like 8 to noon here and I'm sure my employer wouldn't be cool with my skipping mornings to be a "suicide tackle" even if I explain what it means. I can be available on weekends though!!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysenkoism
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19264 Posts
August 08 2012 15:16 GMT
#24360
On August 08 2012 23:58 Shootemup. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2012 20:44 KwarK wrote:
Regular PvP is resuming in under a week now. You guys have had like 3 weeks off, I expect all the new skills I demanded in the corp bulletins to be trained when I return. I'm gonna turn harbingers into zealots and it's gonna be awesome.


Sometimes I wish I had gunneries instead of missiles

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