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Brambled
United States750 Posts
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
On January 21 2012 17:25 Reborn8u wrote: A little update on the state of Eve and Goons. As it stands now The Goons have become extremely powerful. They Live in the north now, and control almost all of the tech moons in the game (those are the big money moons!) A few weeks ago goon spies found out that their neighbor to the east (white noise) was having a serious internal dispute. The goons believed they were about to be attacked by White noise, because sometimes war is used to create solidarity. Several months ago, White noise hosted an invasion of Goon space, that goons were able to defend well, this has not been forgotten. However, after finding out about these internal disputes in white noise, and their plans to attack goon space, via their spies, goons setup a massive preemptive first strike. The results of which was the most one sided beatings and conquering of space since the fall of BOB. White noise simply collapsed under the pressure, and their leadership essentially went AFK. Ironically, over time, some of the former BOB people were residing in and around the area and are once again being crushed by Goons. A few Alliances still hold space in the north but they now find themselves between the Goons and Russians (and friends). While some of the Russians are dealing with their own internal struggles (a civil war broke out in the east recently within Russian space) However, the Russians are still mostly unified and extremely powerful. After destroying the core of White Noise in mere days, Goons quickly continued there campaign into Raiden space and have made considerable gains. It seems there is no one left in the north who can shut down Goon aggression. While in the south the area that was BOB (which the op is about) has become a Ghetto of constant war. Known to eve players as "the thunder dome" Before the war in the north broke out, this area was basically the Goons play ground, where they would go to fight with the locals for fun. If the north does completely get taken by Goons, the south will be the last area in Eve that isn't ruled by russians or goons and none of the Sov holding alliances there seem able to stop a full scale invasion by the main power blocks. Also, before the war broke out ijn the north, Against All Authorities (in the south) was being smashed by a combined effort of some in the north (who the goons are currently killing) and some russian involvement. Luckily for AAA, the war in the north caused much of the aggression to subside for the time being. However, AAA did loose a good portion of their space and won't be able to reclaim it (their eastern border is with the russians) and AAA were in full retreat. AAA did decide not to defend their territory when they were invaded and mitigated the damage as well as one could expect, it is unclear how much actual power they retain. Also, in the new eve release/update "crucible" there were substantial changes to ships, and super capitals are slightly less god like, but still must be feared. So very few have been willing to commit to substantial engagements using super's. What's truly ironic is that goons have now essentially become what BOB was when they destroyed it. + Show Spoiler + Below is a map to help you visualize what has been described above. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/21xHN.png) Area "A" is the space that white noise lost to Goons and friends, the dotted line indicates the former boarder. Area "B' is Raiden who were non aggressive towards white noise, but didn't try to save them. They may not be able to stop Goons from taking this space and have lost some space already. Area "D" is a segment of Raiden and the last holdings of white noise (white territory) The white line around "B" and "D" indicate the only area in the north not aligned with goons or russians. This may all be goon space soon.... it remains to be seen if they can muster enough to stop the Goon advance. The yellow line indicates Territory controlled by goons and their allies/pets. The red area is russian space, the letter "C" indicates the area of civil war conflicts between Shadow of xDeathx and Solar fleet. The area in the south surrounded by white is the last "independent" space that is not aligned with russians or goons. The "E" indicates the former core of BOB (which the OP is about) and the southern tip of Goon allied space. For anyone unfamiliar with eve, the black space in the middle of all of this is Empire space (non-claimable) If I have made any serious errors please feel free to correct me. I'm sure there are plenty who keep better tabs on the large political happenings than me, so some of the information may be outdated, misrepresented or flat out wrong. A lot of this is hear-say. It is entirely possible that I have been misinformed about things. update: in the last few hours a massive battle has taken place. Raiden and friends have unleashed the Titans. A massive Goon Battleship fleet was crushed. It appears for the time being that Raiden will in fact be able to halt the goon aggression in the North. Video of the battle here Here is Raidens kill board, showing 108 billion isk in ships destroyed, with only 15 billion lost. Raiden killboard | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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Johnny Business
Sweden1251 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
http://kb.raidenalliance.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=50621 so far 1 raiden titan down, 1 goon titan barely getting out but still taking heavy heavy losses in hte form of suicide dreadnaughts | ||
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Nub4ever
Canada1981 Posts
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
On January 22 2012 03:46 stormtemplar wrote: Seems to be over as another nice victory for raiden. The question that worries me is that they may not have the resources to trade with the goons and their allies, even 4.5-1 well the raiden. killboad does have some questionable isk values, i'm not sure where everything is coming from just from looking it over (dreads are ~2b each, titans 55-60) btw that goon titan did go down (killmail) so it was 1 for 1, plus all the dreads does put this battle on the side of raiden. | ||
tofucake
Hyrule19213 Posts
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hagon
United Kingdom556 Posts
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On January 22 2012 03:46 stormtemplar wrote: Seems to be over as another nice victory for raiden. The question that worries me is that they may not have the resources to trade with the goons and their allies, even 4.5-1 No they do. Resources is a non factor in this war pretty much. Raiden is old money they have been will be and are rich forever and goons have all the tech. Its all about demotivating/demoralizing your opponent into submission/retreat by winning battles. No eve war ever been won/lost by one side running out of stuff to blow up. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
On January 24 2012 02:48 Firebolt145 wrote: Oh I love reading this thread, makes 0.0 sound so much more epic than it actually is. But i went on a roam and killed a noctis, thats pretty epic right there. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
1251 vs 922 Raiden kills 250b Goonswarm and co kill 74b this is from 2 days ago btw | ||
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RandomAccount#49059
United States2140 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
On January 24 2012 05:07 Firebolt145 wrote: http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12204197 1251 vs 922 Raiden kills 250b Goonswarm and co kill 74b this is from 2 days ago btw The most interesting part of this BR is the fact that the titan downed was ALPHA'D by Raiden titans. Eve News 24 - Titan Money Shot (For non-Eve players, alpha'd = one shotted.) | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34503 Posts
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
Oh the things we could do with a few thousand people. | ||
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